WitchDianna Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I'm trying to read the party data of some secret base trainers to see information such as their pokemon's IVs, EVs, nature, PID, Contest stats, Ribbons, etc. I don't know if the game holds all of that when you mix records, but is there someone or a program out there that can find and show all this information? I can't read code in an emulator to know what I'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDianna Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 I'm dumb and forgot to do this, but here's my Ruby save file, saved right next to a base whose party data I wanna know in particular. Is there anyone or any tools that can help me out? Pokemon - Ruby OldSave.sav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDianna Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 So... is there really no way to read this data at all? There was another thread posted here that asked the same question and someone said that some of the data could be there, and I know someone else managed to get the data of a pokemon through hall of fame records so it must be possible. Unless secret bases are just that one thing that hold basically nothing of the originals aside from the basics for battling the secret base trainer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackShark Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 4 hours ago, WitchDianna said: Unless secret bases are just that one thing that hold basically nothing of the originals aside from the basics for battling the secret base trainer... Well, it's exactly like that. There's only PID, Moves, Species, HeldItem, Level and EVs (not per stat, only one value that's applied to each stat). PKHeX already has the data structure, it's just missing a GUI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDianna Posted May 18 Author Share Posted May 18 14 hours ago, BlackShark said: Well, it's exactly like that. There's only PID, Moves, Species, HeldItem, Level and EVs (not per stat, only one value that's applied to each stat). PKHeX already has the data structure, it's just missing a GUI. Damn, really? I was hoping for both PID and IVs since there was one pokemon's data I was trying to get ahold of, that being a Swampert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackShark Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 You can use Pokefinder to get the IVs from the PID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDianna Posted May 18 Author Share Posted May 18 15 hours ago, BlackShark said: You can use Pokefinder to get the IVs from the PID. I know, but the issue is that I don't have nor know where to find the PID. I have the trainer's ID and SID, but no PID of the pokemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackShark Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 This the data of the bases I could get from your save (the tool is not public yet). Spoiler ZOE, 54315/00212 282 - Gardevoir Moves: Peck / Rock Tomb / Blaze Kick / Double Kick Level: 96, EVs: 85, PID: 3515631833 383 - Groudon Moves: Slash / Solar Beam / Fire Blast / Earthquake Level: 79, EVs: 85, PID: 801773627 227 - Skarmory Moves: Cut / Fly / Steel Wing / Rock Smash Level: 86, EVs: 85, PID: 31928905 373 - Salamence Moves: Fly / Dragon Claw / Dragon Dance / Aerial Ace Level: 50, EVs: 0, PID: 440386558 145 - Zapdos Moves: Fly / Rock Smash / Drill Peck / Thunderbolt Level: 63, EVs: 54, PID: 3097110902 131 - Lapras Moves: Surf / Ice Beam / Body Slam / Waterfall Level: 65, EVs: 85, PID: 2696501770 KIMMY, 50587/00197 359 - Absol Moves: Attract / Sky Attack / Dragon Breath / Flamethrower Level: 76, EVs: 53, PID: 1051408976 334 - Altaria @ Mental Herb Moves: Fly / Crunch / Dragon Breath / Flamethrower Level: 79, EVs: 85, PID: 3685251994 316 - Gulpin Moves: Covet / Flash / Attract / Feint Attack Level: 97, EVs: 85, PID: 3595100482 382 - Kyogre @ Mental Herb Moves: Ice Beam / Body Slam / Waterfall / Hydro Pump Level: 100, EVs: 85, PID: 666076041 384 - Rayquaza @ Thanks Mail Moves: Fly / Outrage / Dragon Claw / Extreme Speed Level: 100, EVs: 85, PID: 1260676748 285 - Shroomish @ Chilan Berry Moves: Surf / Dive / Strength / Earthquake Level: 100, EVs: 85, PID: 1004635327 GABY, 08764/00034 190 - Aipom Moves: Tickle / Astonish / Baton Pass / Fury Swipes Level: 34, EVs: 0, PID: 3117250902 224 - Octillery Moves: Psybeam / Bubble Beam / Aurora Beam / Focus Energy Level: 36, EVs: 2, PID: 289205431 241 - Miltank Moves: Bide / Stomp / Rollout / Milk Drink Level: 37, EVs: 3, PID: 3882658688 132 - Ditto Moves: Transform Level: 41, EVs: 0, PID: 2590238419 234 - Stantler Moves: Hypnosis / Stomp / Take Down / Sand Attack Level: 41, EVs: 7, PID: 2843736808 176 - Togetic Moves: Fly / Metronome / Shadow Ball / Ancient Power Level: 49, EVs: 55, PID: 2739647693 NATALIE, 17182/00067 285 - Shroomish Moves: Surf / Dive / Strength / Rock Smash Level: 37, EVs: 36, PID: 2828503386 006 - Charizard @ Pamtre Berry Moves: Slash / Fire Blast / Wing Attack / Flamethrower Level: 73, EVs: 85, PID: 2508723792 380 - Latias Moves: Psychic / Shadow Ball / Water Pulse / Dragon Breath Level: 55, EVs: 32, PID: 2383944462 382 - Kyogre Moves: Ice Beam / Body Slam / Waterfall / Hydro Pump Level: 46, EVs: 3, PID: 773772562 385 - Jirachi @ Mental Herb Moves: Psychic / Aerial Ace / Shadow Ball / Doom Desire Level: 87, EVs: 85, PID: 2455572699 149 - Dragonite @ Chople Berry Moves: Thunder / Ice Beam / Fire Blast / Focus Punch Level: 100, EVs: 85, PID: 1964355030 ZERO, 36403/00142 184 - Azumarill Moves: Double-Edge / Waterfall / Rollout / Surf Level: 28, EVs: 2, PID: 204284170 385 - Jirachi Moves: Refresh / Rest / Double-Edge / Future Sight Level: 40, EVs: 0, PID: 1372330592 251 - Celebi Moves: Safeguard / Ancient Power / Future Sight / Baton Pass Level: 40, EVs: 0, PID: 1372330592 ZOE, 63718/00248 008 - Wartortle Moves: Bubble / Rock Smash / Water Gun / Bite Level: 29, EVs: 5, PID: 1002060082 153 - Bayleef @ Apicot Berry Moves: Cut / Strength / Razor Leaf / Secret Power Level: 29, EVs: 10, PID: 461075739 156 - Quilava Moves: Ember / Smokescreen / Rock Smash / Quick Attack Level: 29, EVs: 9, PID: 2720500608 380 - Latias @ Max Revive Moves: Fly / Psychic / Mist Ball / Steel Wing Level: 41, EVs: 6, PID: 751424955 078 - Rapidash @ Chople Berry Moves: Stomp / Ember / Fire Blast / Fury Attack Level: 45, EVs: 19, PID: 2742429045 184 - Azumarill @ Kebia Berry Moves: Surf / Dive / Strength / Waterfall Level: 55, EVs: 42, PID: 2576184456 Jade, 55051/00215 384 - Rayquaza Moves: Fly / Rest / Extreme Speed / Outrage Level: 70, EVs: 0, PID: 2760006808 380 - Latias @ Wave Incense Moves: Secret Power / Refresh / Mist Ball / Psychic Level: 40, EVs: 0, PID: 2528666563 282 - Gardevoir Moves: Psychic / Flash / Shadow Ball / Double Team Level: 56, EVs: 85, PID: 2796945782 376 - Metagross @ Rindo Berry Moves: Slash / Bite / Double Team / Aerial Ace Level: 56, EVs: 70, PID: 2081273807 338 - Solrock @ Enigma Berry Moves: Thunderbolt / Bite / Thunder / Quick Attack Level: 55, EVs: 85, PID: 939505078 382 - Kyogre Moves: Surf / Thunder / Ice Beam / Calm Mind Level: 58, EVs: 53, PID: 3617153990 JOHEI, 05478/00021 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDianna Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 On 5/23/2024 at 3:00 PM, BlackShark said: This the data of the bases I could get from your save (the tool is not public yet). Hide contents ZOE, 54315/00212 282 - Gardevoir Moves: Peck / Rock Tomb / Blaze Kick / Double Kick Level: 96, EVs: 85, PID: 3515631833 383 - Groudon Moves: Slash / Solar Beam / Fire Blast / Earthquake Level: 79, EVs: 85, PID: 801773627 227 - Skarmory Moves: Cut / Fly / Steel Wing / Rock Smash Level: 86, EVs: 85, PID: 31928905 373 - Salamence Moves: Fly / Dragon Claw / Dragon Dance / Aerial Ace Level: 50, EVs: 0, PID: 440386558 145 - Zapdos Moves: Fly / Rock Smash / Drill Peck / Thunderbolt Level: 63, EVs: 54, PID: 3097110902 131 - Lapras Moves: Surf / Ice Beam / Body Slam / Waterfall Level: 65, EVs: 85, PID: 2696501770 KIMMY, 50587/00197 359 - Absol Moves: Attract / Sky Attack / Dragon Breath / Flamethrower Level: 76, EVs: 53, PID: 1051408976 334 - Altaria @ Mental Herb Moves: Fly / Crunch / Dragon Breath / Flamethrower Level: 79, EVs: 85, PID: 3685251994 316 - Gulpin Moves: Covet / Flash / Attract / Feint Attack Level: 97, EVs: 85, PID: 3595100482 382 - Kyogre @ Mental Herb Moves: Ice Beam / Body Slam / Waterfall / Hydro Pump Level: 100, EVs: 85, PID: 666076041 384 - Rayquaza @ Thanks Mail Moves: Fly / Outrage / Dragon Claw / Extreme Speed Level: 100, EVs: 85, PID: 1260676748 285 - Shroomish @ Chilan Berry Moves: Surf / Dive / Strength / Earthquake Level: 100, EVs: 85, PID: 1004635327 GABY, 08764/00034 190 - Aipom Moves: Tickle / Astonish / Baton Pass / Fury Swipes Level: 34, EVs: 0, PID: 3117250902 224 - Octillery Moves: Psybeam / Bubble Beam / Aurora Beam / Focus Energy Level: 36, EVs: 2, PID: 289205431 241 - Miltank Moves: Bide / Stomp / Rollout / Milk Drink Level: 37, EVs: 3, PID: 3882658688 132 - Ditto Moves: Transform Level: 41, EVs: 0, PID: 2590238419 234 - Stantler Moves: Hypnosis / Stomp / Take Down / Sand Attack Level: 41, EVs: 7, PID: 2843736808 176 - Togetic Moves: Fly / Metronome / Shadow Ball / Ancient Power Level: 49, EVs: 55, PID: 2739647693 NATALIE, 17182/00067 285 - Shroomish Moves: Surf / Dive / Strength / Rock Smash Level: 37, EVs: 36, PID: 2828503386 006 - Charizard @ Pamtre Berry Moves: Slash / Fire Blast / Wing Attack / Flamethrower Level: 73, EVs: 85, PID: 2508723792 380 - Latias Moves: Psychic / Shadow Ball / Water Pulse / Dragon Breath Level: 55, EVs: 32, PID: 2383944462 382 - Kyogre Moves: Ice Beam / Body Slam / Waterfall / Hydro Pump Level: 46, EVs: 3, PID: 773772562 385 - Jirachi @ Mental Herb Moves: Psychic / Aerial Ace / Shadow Ball / Doom Desire Level: 87, EVs: 85, PID: 2455572699 149 - Dragonite @ Chople Berry Moves: Thunder / Ice Beam / Fire Blast / Focus Punch Level: 100, EVs: 85, PID: 1964355030 ZERO, 36403/00142 184 - Azumarill Moves: Double-Edge / Waterfall / Rollout / Surf Level: 28, EVs: 2, PID: 204284170 385 - Jirachi Moves: Refresh / Rest / Double-Edge / Future Sight Level: 40, EVs: 0, PID: 1372330592 251 - Celebi Moves: Safeguard / Ancient Power / Future Sight / Baton Pass Level: 40, EVs: 0, PID: 1372330592 ZOE, 63718/00248 008 - Wartortle Moves: Bubble / Rock Smash / Water Gun / Bite Level: 29, EVs: 5, PID: 1002060082 153 - Bayleef @ Apicot Berry Moves: Cut / Strength / Razor Leaf / Secret Power Level: 29, EVs: 10, PID: 461075739 156 - Quilava Moves: Ember / Smokescreen / Rock Smash / Quick Attack Level: 29, EVs: 9, PID: 2720500608 380 - Latias @ Max Revive Moves: Fly / Psychic / Mist Ball / Steel Wing Level: 41, EVs: 6, PID: 751424955 078 - Rapidash @ Chople Berry Moves: Stomp / Ember / Fire Blast / Fury Attack Level: 45, EVs: 19, PID: 2742429045 184 - Azumarill @ Kebia Berry Moves: Surf / Dive / Strength / Waterfall Level: 55, EVs: 42, PID: 2576184456 Jade, 55051/00215 384 - Rayquaza Moves: Fly / Rest / Extreme Speed / Outrage Level: 70, EVs: 0, PID: 2760006808 380 - Latias @ Wave Incense Moves: Secret Power / Refresh / Mist Ball / Psychic Level: 40, EVs: 0, PID: 2528666563 282 - Gardevoir Moves: Psychic / Flash / Shadow Ball / Double Team Level: 56, EVs: 85, PID: 2796945782 376 - Metagross @ Rindo Berry Moves: Slash / Bite / Double Team / Aerial Ace Level: 56, EVs: 70, PID: 2081273807 338 - Solrock @ Enigma Berry Moves: Thunderbolt / Bite / Thunder / Quick Attack Level: 55, EVs: 85, PID: 939505078 382 - Kyogre Moves: Surf / Thunder / Ice Beam / Calm Mind Level: 58, EVs: 53, PID: 3617153990 JOHEI, 05478/00021 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 242 - Blissey Moves: Memento Level: 100, EVs: 12, PID: 199206636 I don't know what information your tool is actually reading from because a lot of this is incorrect. In particular, all the SIDs are wrong, and a lot of pokemon (and held items) are ones that don't appear in their teams at all. Example: KIMMY's ID/SID combo is 50587 / 08473, not 50587 / 00197. That trainer's party consists of (in order): Quote Altaria @ no held item Lv. 76 Flygon @ Shell Bell Lv. 79 Delcatty @ no held item lv. 97 Kyogre @ Shell Bell Lv. 100 Rayquaza @ Persim Berry Lv. 100 Swampert @ Leftovers Lv. 100 There is no Absol, Gulpin, or Shroomish in that trainer's party. I can even battle them and see that in-game, so I don't know how you got your info with your tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frecksz Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I was wondering the same thing! In my Emerald save I have a Kyogre and Blaziken on a secret base team that I no longer have because I traded them to a friend who reset his save file. I’d like the data to be able to generate identical copies of them back into my games. I’m in the process right now of installing new batteries in my Sapphire and Emerald save files and editing the RTC to be able to fight my 8 year old self just to see them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDianna Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 9 hours ago, Frecksz said: I was wondering the same thing! In my Emerald save I have a Kyogre and Blaziken on a secret base team that I no longer have because I traded them to a friend who reset his save file. I’d like the data to be able to generate identical copies of them back into my games. I’m in the process right now of installing new batteries in my Sapphire and Emerald save files and editing the RTC to be able to fight my 8 year old self just to see them again. Glad to know I'm not alone :'D that's the reason why I started this thread, I'm trying to get a mon or 2 back from KIMMY's base as I no longer have the original cartridge; this Ruby file has the last remaining records of them. I've tried the Roamer Glitch to try and catch them back, but they just turn into bad eggs, even when I set my name/ID/SID to the same data. There's a video that had someone getting a mon's data through the Hall of Fame, and was wondering if something similar could be done for secret bases. I remember some stuff such as nature, but if I just had the PID at least I think I could find the IVs in RING Reporter/PokeFinder and recreate them from scratch. The only loss would be the ribbons and contest stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frecksz Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 9 hours ago, WitchDianna said: Glad to know I'm not alone :'D that's the reason why I started this thread, I'm trying to get a mon or 2 back from KIMMY's base as I no longer have the original cartridge; this Ruby file has the last remaining records of them. I've tried the Roamer Glitch to try and catch them back, but they just turn into bad eggs, even when I set my name/ID/SID to the same data. There's a video that had someone getting a mon's data through the Hall of Fame, and was wondering if something similar could be done for secret bases. I remember some stuff such as nature, but if I just had the PID at least I think I could find the IVs in RING Reporter/PokeFinder and recreate them from scratch. The only loss would be the ribbons and contest stats. We’re both on similar missions :’) my Sapphire and Emerald files have both mixed records with each other, and a Ruby save file I no longer have. I just wanted to replace the battery and reset the RTC to battle myself but I saw the same video on the Blastoise rescue! I’ve done a lot of research since that video because I wanted to dive into the code of the game myself (nowhere near that yet, just about getting started! I haven’t coded anything since MySpace and tumblr layouts) the bulbapedia article mentioned in the video is here: https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Save_data_structure_(Generation_III) The HOF data does have the PID of the pokemon so if the ones you’re looking for have entered the hall of fame then you’re in luck. It won’t tell you too much else about the Pokemon though other than the level/species/OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDianna Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 15 hours ago, Frecksz said: We’re both on similar missions :’) my Sapphire and Emerald files have both mixed records with each other, and a Ruby save file I no longer have. I just wanted to replace the battery and reset the RTC to battle myself but I saw the same video on the Blastoise rescue! I’ve done a lot of research since that video because I wanted to dive into the code of the game myself (nowhere near that yet, just about getting started! I haven’t coded anything since MySpace and tumblr layouts) the bulbapedia article mentioned in the video is here: https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Save_data_structure_(Generation_III) The HOF data does have the PID of the pokemon so if the ones you’re looking for have entered the hall of fame then you’re in luck. It won’t tell you too much else about the Pokemon though other than the level/species/OT. Some do appear in this Ruby's hall of fame actually: Swampert, Delcatty, and Kyogre (and out of those 3, Delcatty is the only one I physically have because it was transferred to Gale of Darkness before I lost the game itself: The data is slightly different though. Other than level, I don't know what else is different between the hall of fame mon and secret base mon. I know from memory that Swampert in particular has all the beauty contest ribbons and the artist ribbon and might've maxed its contest condition stat. But I can't read pokemon data very well, nor do I know how to find it within a rom or emulator exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamorte Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) I recently found a Secret Base Editor for Emerald on github, forked it, and have been adding onto it for my own use/fun. I was able to get the following information from your save file: Spoiler KIMMY ID: 50587 SID : 08473 Altaria@None PID: 3EAB3A50 Level: 76 -Attract -Sky Attack -Dragon Breath -Flamethrower Flygon@Shell Bell PID: DBA87B9A Level: 79 -Fly -Crunch -Dragon Breath -Flamethrower Delcatty@None PID: D648E142 Level: 97 -Covet -Flash -Attract -Faint Attack Kyogre@Shell Bell PID: 27B38389 Level: 100 -Ice Beam -Body Slam -Waterfall -Hydropump Rayquaza@Persim Berry PID: 4B24668C Level: 100 -Fly -Outrage -Dragon Claw -Extreme Speed Swampert@Leftovers PID: 3BE184BF Level: 100 -Surf -Dive -Strength -Earthquake The ID/SID combo matches with what you posted earlier. Secret Base mons don't have any other info past this. You would need to use the PID to figure out its IV's, and it does not keep track of any ribbons or condition. On 6/4/2024 at 12:06 PM, Frecksz said: I was wondering the same thing! In my Emerald save I have a Kyogre and Blaziken on a secret base team that I no longer have because I traded them to a friend who reset his save file. I’d like the data to be able to generate identical copies of them back into my games. I’m in the process right now of installing new batteries in my Sapphire and Emerald save files and editing the RTC to be able to fight my 8 year old self just to see them again. If you can get me the save file, I can try to extract the PID for them from it. From there, you can use the PID with rng reporter and pkhex to recreate them. Edited June 14 by Lunamorte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDianna Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 On 6/14/2024 at 11:08 AM, Lunamorte said: I recently found a Secret Base Editor for Emerald on github, forked it, and have been adding onto it for my own use/fun. I was able to get the following information from your save file: Reveal hidden contents KIMMY ID: 50587 SID : 08473 Altaria@None PID: 3EAB3A50 Level: 76 -Attract -Sky Attack -Dragon Breath -Flamethrower Flygon@Shell Bell PID: DBA87B9A Level: 79 -Fly -Crunch -Dragon Breath -Flamethrower Delcatty@None PID: D648E142 Level: 97 -Covet -Flash -Attract -Faint Attack Kyogre@Shell Bell PID: 27B38389 Level: 100 -Ice Beam -Body Slam -Waterfall -Hydropump Rayquaza@Persim Berry PID: 4B24668C Level: 100 -Fly -Outrage -Dragon Claw -Extreme Speed Swampert@Leftovers PID: 3BE184BF Level: 100 -Surf -Dive -Strength -Earthquake The ID/SID combo matches with what you posted earlier. Secret Base mons don't have any other info past this. You would need to use the PID to figure out its IV's, and it does not keep track of any ribbons or condition. You sure those are the correct PIDs? I'm not able to find their IVs using them on RNGReporter; no results are coming up, even when I input the nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamorte Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, WitchDianna said: You sure those are the correct PIDs? I'm not able to find their IVs using them on RNGReporter; no results are coming up, even when I input the nature. They appear to be correct from my testing, when I compared them to the PID's of my own pokemon based on what pkhex tells me; I am getting IV's for them on RNG reporter. Are you using the Gen 3 PID to IV tool on RNG reporter? Because I was able to find IV spreads for all of them on RNG reporter. I attached images of what I got from the PID to IV tool from RNG reporter. Kyogre, Rayquaza, and Swampert (assuming it was your starter) should be using method 1. The remaining three are probably method 2 (technically H-2) if you caught them in the wild; if they were hatched from eggs, there basically stops being a correlation between IV and PID. I am not fully sure what the different seeds mean however. Spoiler Edited June 16 by Lunamorte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDianna Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 On 6/15/2024 at 8:54 PM, Lunamorte said: They appear to be correct from my testing, when I compared them to the PID's of my own pokemon based on what pkhex tells me; I am getting IV's for them on RNG reporter. Are you using the Gen 3 PID to IV tool on RNG reporter? Because I was able to find IV spreads for all of them on RNG reporter. I attached images of what I got from the PID to IV tool from RNG reporter. Kyogre, Rayquaza, and Swampert (assuming it was your starter) should be using method 1. The remaining three are probably method 2 (technically H-2) if you caught them in the wild; if they were hatched from eggs, there basically stops being a correlation between IV and PID. I am not fully sure what the different seeds mean however. Reveal hidden contents What I mean is this box outlined in red here: If they're correct, then I should be able to find them here and when they generated. I don't know the natures of Rayquaza, Altaria, or Flygon, but I know Swampert, Kyogre, and Delcatty's are Brave, Mild, and Relaxed respectively. They're not showing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamorte Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 (edited) On 6/17/2024 at 10:14 PM, WitchDianna said: What I mean is this box outlined in red here: If they're correct, then I should be able to find them here and when they generated. I don't know the natures of Rayquaza, Altaria, or Flygon, but I know Swampert, Kyogre, and Delcatty's are Brave, Mild, and Relaxed respectively. They're not showing up. You should not be using the generate feature to begin with; that is more for figuring out what Frame you need to hit for a specific spread/shiny. The ID and SID section are just for determining which PID's would be shiny for that ID and SID combination; they do not actually affect what PID's you can run into. Also, by default, RNG Reporter only shows the first 100000 results by checking only the first 100000 frames unless you changed the max results. Even then, you still have to consider the Seed and Method; if you left the Seed blank it will use a seed of 0 which would probably not be likely for Ruby or Sapphire. If you want to find a pokemon's IV's you have to use the PID to IV tool in 3rd Gen Tools. Using the generate feature isn't practical even to confirm if that PID exists; it is essentially trying to find a needle in a hay stack. As for the nature's, those are tied to the PID itself. For example, if you where to enter Delcatty's PID, D648E142, for a pokemon in pkhex and click off, the pokemon's nature will be set to Relaxed. Also, I just tried to generate Delcatty and believe it uses method 4, as pkhex failed to validate the encounter slot RNG correlation when using the Method 2 spread, but was able to validate it when using the method 4 spread when I set its met level to 8, meaning it was likely caught on route 116 as a level 8 Skitty. I found its starting level by using the Sapphire Encounter Table. I am assuming they are from Sapphire based on Kyogre. I've generated all six of them myself using this information. If they had multiple valid spreads, I simply picked the top valid one and preferred Method 2 over 4 if both were valid. EVs are not fully saved when you mix records (the game just evenly distributes the EV's to all of the stats for secret base pokemon) so I left them at 0; you can set them to whatever you want in pkhex. PP Ups are not saved either. This is probably as close as we can get to the originals with just the secret base data as it sadly does not include the IVs. I tried using an Action Replay Code to catch one of the pokemon from the secret base and their IVs were all set to 15 when I looked at them with pkhex. 0301 - DELCATTY - 0CCAD648E142.pk3 0330 - FLYGON - A945DBA87B9A.pk3 0334 - ALTARIA - 1E343EAB3A50.pk3 0382 - KYOGRE - 83F527B38389.pk3 0384 - RAYQUAZA - C9304B24668C.pk3 0260 - SWAMPERT - 6FB93BE184BF.pk3 Edited June 20 by Lunamorte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragaza Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) I hope this guide helps someone: Edited July 17 by Dragaza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamorte Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Huh, did not realize that Method 1 was used commonly in Ruby/Sapphire. That is good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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