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well in some pokemon with HA and safari ball without genre like that beldum says is legal ...

 374 - Beldum - 93772A57E3B0.pk7

so beldum is legal in safari ball but without HA ... the pkhex says is legal 

Legal!
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Valid Move 1: Relearnable Move.
Valid Move 2: Empty Move.
Valid Move 3: Empty Move.
Valid Move 4: Empty Move.
Valid Relearn Move 1: Base Egg move.
Valid Relearn Move 2: Empty Move.
Valid Relearn Move 3: Empty Move.
Valid Relearn Move 4: Empty Move.

Fishy: TID and SID are 0.
Fishy: All EVs are zero, but leveled above Met Level.
Fishy: Current experience matches level threshold.
Valid: Able to hatch an Egg at Met Location.
Valid: Nickname matches species name.
Valid: All ribbons accounted for.
Valid: Ability matches ability number.
Valid: Ball possible for species.
Valid: History block is valid.
Valid: Geolocation: Country is in 3DS region.
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Encounter Type: Egg (Beldum)
PID Type: None

Posted (edited)

Starting at gen 6, female Pokémon gain the ability to pass down their Balls. In gen 7, any breedable Pokémon (even male-only or genderless species) are capable of doing so. This gives us the possibility to breed several previously unobtainable ability-Ball combinations, due to some of them, such as the Safari Ball, being long-lost stuff. In most cases, this is not a problem at all, since a pre-gen 5 Pokémon caught in a Safari Ball can breed with a gen 5-onwards one of the same species, opposite gender, and hidden ability, it is possible to legitimately generate HA Safari Ball offspring.
However, Johto's Safari Zone features several genderless Pokémon. Due to the aforementioned new mechanic, these Pokémon can indeed be bred in Safari Balls, but it's not possible for them to have their hidden abilities due to their inability to breed with members of their own species. Since they can only breed with Ditto, and Ditto cannot pass down neither abilities nor Balls, it's impossible for them to get the Safari Ball + Hidden Ability combination. PKHeX overlooks that, and no one seems to have noticed it, so thanks for pointing it out, I did some testing and found out all of the following Pokémon, along with their respective evolutions, seem to be affected by this issue:

  • Magnemite
  • Voltorb
  • Lunatone (this one doesn't have an actual HA, but setting its ability to "Levitate (H)" is still taken as legal with a Safari Ball)
  • Solrock (same as Lunatone)
  • Beldum
  • Bronzor

Disclaimer: I'm not a staff member, nor have anything to do with PKHeX's development.

Edited by Ruby Genseki

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