Bug-Catching Contest Venomoth

[jojo12100]

Here's my new challenge:

try to get the unused bug-catching contest Venomoth in Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal

 

what we know: there is an unused Venomoth table in bug-catching contest

what we ignore: is it possible to force-load the content? or is it just a leftover?

 

Helpers are welcome.

I also beggin my studies about FunFiesta mission but it'll take time.

 

[jojo12100]

In Pokemon Crystal the Hex are located in 97DB0 in ROM

And in the RAM the Bug-Contest events are in ????

Edited January 19, 2017 by jojo12100

[theSLAYER]

I'll say Venomoth is not an unused capture,
but rather the Ranking criteria is placed for the case that Venomoth is obtained from evolving Venonat.

[jojo12100]

  On 1/19/2017 at 11:33 PM, theSLAYER said:

I'll say Venomoth is not an unused capture,
but rather the Ranking criteria is placed for the case that Venomoth is obtained from evolving Venonat.

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But Paras can evolve too in that list and there is no Parasect.

[theSLAYER]

  On 1/19/2017 at 11:36 PM, jojo12100 said:

But Paras can evolve too in that list and there is no Parasect.

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I've got no explanation for that.

But if Venomoth wasn't programmed to be encounterable, I don't see how we can get it;
It's not like there's a .pk2 file of it inside the rom or ram, like our other exploits?
 

[jojo12100]

@theSLAYERNo you're right ^^

But we can exchange for example the Caterpie slot with the Venomoth or something like that

Edited January 19, 2017 by jojo12100

[jojo12100]

Done. It was really easy.

 

049 - AEROMITE - 515C.pk2

[theSLAYER]

  On 1/20/2017 at 12:04 AM, jojo12100 said:

Done. It was really easy.

 

049 - AEROMITE - 515C.pk2Fetching info...

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Wouldn't that be achieved similarly to using a Venomoth encounter code, say, anywhere in the game?

In my head, this is becoming a where do we draw the line game lol

This isn't like Altering Cave,
where the encounter is programmed to change with a simply event, right?

(which then again, then end result will be similar to using a AR encounter code anywhere)

[jojo12100]

  On 1/20/2017 at 1:20 AM, theSLAYER said:

Wouldn't that be achieved similarly to using a Venomoth encounter code, say, anywhere in the game?

In my head, this is becoming a where do we draw the line game lol

This isn't like Altering Cave,
where the encounter is programmed to change with a simply event, right?

(which then again, then end result will be similar to using a AR encounter code anywhere)

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Well, I didn't input an encounter code but I did as said in my post. I inverted Caterpie and Venomoth slots.

Is it or not legal is not really the question. The data exists in the game but cannot apparently be accessed.

[theSLAYER]

  On 1/20/2017 at 1:29 AM, jojo12100 said:

Well, I didn't input an encounter code but I did as said in my post. I inverted Caterpie and Venomoth slots.

Is it or not legal is not really the question. The data exists in the game but cannot apparently be accessed.

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No no, this isn't a question about legality, since nothing we've been doing are legal ;P

What I meant to say, stuff like Developer's or Debuggers' Pokemon or hidden trades are more "unique",
since they've mostly got definite details/stats/.pkm data pre-programmed,
whereas situation like this Venomoth is easily simulated by using an encounter code to catch them.
(and they'll also be indistinguishable from one extracted from the hidden slot)

Still I found it interesting that a Venomoth slot was programmed but deactivated, so that got to account for something

[jojo12100]

  On 1/20/2017 at 1:34 AM, theSLAYER said:

No no, this isn't a question about legality, since nothing we've been doing are legal ;P

What I meant to say, stuff like Developer's or Debuggers' Pokemon or hidden trades are more "unique",
since they've mostly got definite details/stats/.pkm data pre-programmed,
whereas situation like this Venomoth is easily simulated by using an encounter code to catch them.
(and they'll also be indistinguishable from one extracted from the hidden slot)

Still I found it interesting that a Venomoth slot was programmed but deactivated, so that got to account for something

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For me "leftovers" pokemon are all unique.

Some are known, some are really hidden.

My next challenge will be the FunFiesta exclusive mission ones; I'd love to get also the wild Scizor and the wild Shiinotic from Sun/Moon (the ones you cannot catch) and the Litwick wondercard from Gen5.

And honestly it's very exciting challenges ^^

Edited January 20, 2017 by jojo12100

[theSLAYER]

  On 1/20/2017 at 1:40 AM, jojo12100 said:

For me "leftovers" pokemon are all unique.

Some are known, some are really hidden.

My next challenge will be the FunFiesta exclusive mission ones; I'd love to get also the wild Scizor and the wild Shiinotic from Sun/Moon (the ones you cannot catch) and the Litwick wondercard from Gen5.

And honestly it's very exciting challenges ^^

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Well I gotta agree that these are interesting challenges.

Perhaps you may want to start another thread that has all the collated results, then link them separately to all these scattered threads.

[jojo12100]

  On 1/20/2017 at 11:00 AM, theSLAYER said:

Well I gotta agree that these are interesting challenges.

Perhaps you may want to start another thread that has all the collated results, then link them separately to all these scattered threads.

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Yes, I will. Like that other projects can be started too.

Do you have a preference for the location of this huge-thread?

I'm a bit busy today by the Japan Expo Junichi Masuda masterclass it's really interesting what he says about the history of the developpement of the game. I hope we can do subtitles for ProjectPokemon in order to save and share this moment.

[theSLAYER]

  On 1/20/2017 at 11:08 AM, jojo12100 said:

Yes, I will. Like that other projects can be started too.

Do you have a preference for the location of this huge-thread?

I'm a bit busy today by the Japan Expo Junichi Masuda masterclass it's really interesting what he says about the history of the developpement of the game. I hope we can do subtitles for ProjectPokemon in order to save and share this moment.

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Since it's mostly Pokemon Related, I'll say it should be in the pkm forums