Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

[marcos9191]

For the Manaphy can be shiny legally obtaining egg must be "trade link (number 2002 in Pokesav)".

[Agonist]

For the Manaphy can be shiny legally obtaining egg must be "trade link (number 2002 in Pokesav)".

yeah, except we don't care about how to hack it to be shiny.

[Guest]

yeah, except we don't care about how to hack it to be shiny.

Just a friendly tip, don't talk about things you have no idea about.

[Agonist]

Just a friendly tip, don't talk about things you have no idea about.

excuse me?

[Guest]

excuse me?

Manaphy --> Receive from Pokémart dude.

Shinyness --> Based on PID/SID/ID combination.

If Manaphy == Would be shiny on the save you receive the egg on --> Game re-assigns a new PID until a non-shiny one is chosen.

However!

If Manaphy Egg == Traded to another game after receiving from Pokémart dude

Manaphy Egg PID --> Might be a shiny PID for the receiver's ID/SID combination --> Manaphy would hatch shiny on that save file.

See where I'm going with this?

Having a shiny Manaphy with location: "Link Trade" is the only way a shiny Manaphy can legitimately be shiny.

This thread is about Pokécheck's legal checker.

In which case, it is perfectly relevant to point out what locations are possible for a legal shiny Manaphy, so that PokéCheck's legality checker could be updated to reflect that information (Even though I'm quite certain it already was anyway.)

Thank you, come again.

[Kaphotics]

Manaphy --> Receive from Pokémart dude.

Shinyness --> Based on PID/SID/ID combination.

If Manaphy == Would be shiny on the save you receive the egg on --> Game re-assigns a new PID until a non-shiny one is chosen.

However!

If Manaphy Egg == Traded to another game after receiving from Pokémart dude

Manaphy Egg PID --> Might be a shiny PID for the receiver's ID/SID combination --> Manaphy would hatch shiny on that save file.

See where I'm going with this?

Having a shiny Manaphy with location: "Link Trade" is the only way a shiny Manaphy can legitimately be shiny.

This thread is about Pokécheck's legal checker.

In which case, it is perfectly relevant to point out what locations are possible for a legal shiny Manaphy, so that PokéCheck's legality checker could be updated to reflect that information (Even though I'm quite certain it already was anyway.)

Thank you, come again.

It's not a "how to fix a hack" thread though

[Dark Ray]

Rock Smash encounter slots are off, this is a perfectly legal encounter. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2056253

[marcos9191]

I would like to say something, is explained in the image:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?

These are events that I get hacked when legally can have data without any external manipulation:

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2024157

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2038487

If nobody believes me, you try someone around here that inspires more confidence (I can not think of anything more to prove I'm not lying).

[Kaphotics]

Those Wonder Cards have not been added to the site for checking yet. All moves still are plausible with "Event only" and the FE flag is admissible with reference to the Wonder card itself, so once the cards are added to the db they should pass.

[marcos9191]

I understand and I apologize for being heavy, I thought they were added and it was a failure event to be eggs.

[Bond697]

the conversation is now gone. if you want to report stuff get a better translator and don't hack anything. i'm deleting unreadable posts from now on. get a better translator. that's part of why this happened.

[Dark Ray]

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2110723 Used an Adamant Synchronizer, got this message in the LA.

► Locations Valid encounter (esv=7, slot 9, Thursday bug catching contest).

Requires non-adamant synchronizer.

Minor, but still an error.

EDIT: Talking to some people on IRC reminded me of some Great Marsh/Safari Zone errors from when the "Features & news" mentioned Safari Zone encounters were not fully supported.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1034688 Marill is both a Normal and Binocular Pokemon, LA is treating it as only occupying Normal slots.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1005230 http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2114371 LA doesn't seem to recognze Platinum Binocular Pokemon at all, Kecleon was caught with a failed CC lead and Kangaskhan was with a Pressure lead.

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1824366 Valid encounter, placing Blocks can shift encounter slots around for Block Pokemon.

Edited September 28, 2012 by Dark Ray

[Chompizard25]

I just want to say this:

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2127139

Move 2 is an inherited egg move, not a tutor move from B2/W2

[Agonist]

It makes no difference in terms of the legality analysis.

[Chompizard25]

shouldn't the LA be exact? it would be a better future

[Agonist]

there's no way to differentiate how a move that's both an egg move and tutor was learned, and either way, it simply doesn't matter. Regardless of how the move was obtained on the Pokémon, it's a legitimate move for it to know, and at the end of the day, that's all that matters.

[Dark Ray]

4th gen only abilities on unevolved Pokemon from 3rd gen games are not legal. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2139574

[Agonist]

For some reason my Dragonite (that I caught as a Dratini) say they were caught in a fishing spot, when they weren't.

- https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=1080071

- https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=1079487

- https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=1773398

[Kaphotics]

For some reason my Dragonite (that I caught as a Dratini) say they were caught in a fishing spot, when they weren't.

- https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=1080071

- https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=1079487

- https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=1773398

Fishing Spot:

Dragonspiral Tower	[u]Dratini	35-60[/u]	Basculin Red	35-60	[u]Dragonair	35-70[/u]	Dragonair	45-70	Dragonite	50-70

Remember, Pokecheck only checks for legality thus a valid encounter is all it checks for. There's no way for it to know that you didn't catch it at a fishing spot.

[Agonist]

Fishing Spot:

Dragonspiral Tower	[u]Dratini	35-60[/u]	Basculin Red	35-60	[u]Dragonair	35-70[/u]	Dragonair	45-70	Dragonite	50-70

Remember, Pokecheck only checks for legality thus a valid encounter is all it checks for. There's no way for it to know that you didn't catch it at a fishing spot.

yeah, that's what Voodoo said as well. I was just curious about it, that's all.

[andrea29]

hi every body ,

i have a problem with the location of my abomasnow http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2153352

what should i do to get it right?

thanks

[Kaphotics]

hi every body ,

i have a problem with the location of my abomasnow http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2153352

what should i do to get it right?

thanks

This is not a thread on how to make your Pokemon pass. Please re-read the first post.

[andrea29]

This is not a thread on how to make your Pokemon pass. Please re-read the first post.

what i meant was that despite of the fact that the pokemon is supposed to be legit, it's not because of the location. Now what i asked for was not to make it right but to know how come the location keeps showing" unknown location" even though i put "poketransfer" in location boxe.

ps im not english, that's why there has been such a misunderstading

thanks in advance

[Agonist]

what i meant was that despite of the fact that the pokemon is supposed to be legit, it's not because of the location. Now what i asked for was not to make it right but to know how come the location keeps showing" unknown location" even though i put "poketransfer" in location boxe.

ps im not english, that's why there has been such a misunderstading

thanks in advance

You can't hack a Pokemon to be legit. The reason it shows unknown encounter is because you did a crappy job hacking it. End of story.

[Aced]

My N's Darmanitan (Black 2, English) states incorrectly that it has an "Invalid or unreleased Dream World ability", and it is an "Unknown encounter."

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=2168372