thomas05

1 minute ago, theSLAYER said:

They never mentioned it has the origin game locked to X, because that's data one would normally not get to see unless one transfers out. They only mention games that can receive it, not origin game the file was preset too.

Also, it's not confused with those two.
Look at the OT on my app.

 

Assuming you're referring to this.

 

For the record, this is my app, not PKHeX.

Also, the filename says "ORAS", because that is how the nomenclature for our files work.
ORAS is the only pair of games that can receive this event. However origin game is preset to X, regardless of what game you receive it on.

That is all there is to it. I've already given you the accurate recounting. It should be Kalos, since origin game is preset to X.

Wow i never heard about this scenario, how can a normal person know this damn they really like complicate things.

Thanks for the infos as always!

Can't be a confusion of one of this? I never see a double error from serebii and bulbapedia together and i don't find this event info for pokemon X anywhere. I don't want say that pkhex is wrong but only to be sure about everything

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_VI#Tyranitar_2

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_VI#Tyranitar

13 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

Looking at the wonder card, the Pokémon was distributed with the Origin Game locked to X.
Hence, when transferred up, it'll say Kalos.

So PKHeX is working as intended.

Also pkhex in the high left side says ORAS 

I received this event tyranitar shiny 03866 (https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Japanese_region_Nintendo_Network_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_VI#Kotone_Yasue.27s_Tyranitar)

For pkhex everything is ok and pass the legality check but as shown in the picture it comes from kalos and bulbapedia/serebii say that it should be available only in pokemon oras (hoen).

Someone know something about this event? i don't find anything about it for pokemon XY (kalos)

in Gen 5 japanese cartridge didn't have the possibility to use an english language? i know that from gen 6 is possible because a japanese game can choose english language to play so it would be legit, but don't know how it works before 3ds

2 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

I don't know what UT means, and google isn't being much help.

wow never though that i could teach something to you it means untouched, the player has redeemed and never used that pokemon.

2 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

 

Depends. Could that moveset even exist in that game (could it be transferred up?), does Powersave write any extra data?

Given it's Gen 5 -> Gen 7, changing moves should be fine. That is assuming everything else is legal, of course.

it can exist but event moves of gen 1-5 can't be relearned via normal gameplay so it depends if there are datas of the pokemon that save every change to the moves or are saved only actual moves

2 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

EVs can be reduced with EV reducing berries,
but IVs depends on whether it was distributed with random IVs..

Are there datas that record history of ivs or also level? like if I start with a lv60 pokemon it will save the level met at 60, but then there will be datas that record every level up or if i take back it from lv100 at lv60 for the game is everything ok? 

Instead for Ivs game save datas of "first met" ivs or only has actual ivs saved? so that if you change them there arent any problems

2 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

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For future reference:
1) It's not necessary to tag me directly. I check latest unread pretty frequently, and would jump in if no one else says anything, or if I have something to add. :3
2) If you have new info to add, and your latest post is unanswered, edit it into your latest post on the thread.
3) Please post your threads in the right sub-forum. Your thread has nothing to do with peripheral hardware.
[You may think the usage of powersaves qualifies for peripheral hardware, but your question centered more on legality than peripheral usage.
I could replace powersaves with PKHeX and the gist of your question doesn't change.]
I moved this thread.

sorry between all threads i though it was the best for the usage of an hardware.

shit i answered bad inside your answears ahah hope you can read them,

edited well i hope

I received a pokemon event that wasn't UT, all is perfect except for the moveset that i can't relearn anymore in normal gameplay. If i edit the moves with powersave to put the event moveset to make it an UT event, are there internal datas that makes him illegal? or would be 100% legit for the game?

I play on USUM and the event is from gen 5

@theSLAYER i already know the monster for this type of questions 

merged:
anyone know this? also if removing evs / changing ivs can create problems? 

I have 3ds only (from XY to USUM)

 shiny volcarona lv100 OT korean (06092)

 shiny groudon lv60 OT korean (180127) or japanese (180113)

 shiny kyogre lv60 OT korean (180127) or japanese (180113) 

FT: ask me events or legendaries you need
 

I studied that all gen 1-4 pokemons lose forever their original date during the transfer in pokemon black and white, for gen 5-7 pokemons happen something similar during the transfer in pokemon home or they keep the original date?

Thanks for everything 

9 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

To be clear, when you say "mark+region", you're referring to the symbols like Pentagon, Clover, GB etc, that show where a mon came from, right?
 

I mean the symbol (pentagon etc.+ the region (kalos etc). So ok i undestood these are results of the data that refers to the accurate game of origin.

9 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

it would be? because such a mon is not legal to begin with?
Like I said, origin game persists. So, for example, if Yveltal was caught in Pokemon X, that is illegal.
Just because the game doesn't know it's illegal, doesn't mean it isn't.

There are pokemon events available only for some specific version of the game in that moment. In this case i was thinking to electabuzz Spring 2014 available only in Y that i spawned in X. All is perfect in game because pentagon and kalos region are the same for both games but for a legality checker of pokemon home so would be illegal since his origin game is X instead of Y right?

5 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

When you collect the mon from the delivery person, be it pokemon center or pokemon mart. (the delivery person waits at different places, depending on which generation you play)

Then when transfered in gen8 the data structure of the pokemon will have bytes regarding the accurate origin game or only the mark + region? in this last case there would not be problems regarding a pokemon of X spawned in Y for example. Sorry for all the questions but without having access to pkhex at the moment i can only use my mind as legality checker 

damn only for a legality check i didn't want bang my head too much  because i don't have the possibility to transfer a pkhex save in my real cartridge so i can only export my backup to do a legality check of pokemons that i have...is there something working for this on mac that i can download directly? 

ah ok so this is not good anymore? 

I read a lot of articles that from 2019 many people started to use Pkhex also with iMac but i'm not able to open it. I installed it, extracted the program but when i click on the icon nothing happens. I only need a legality checker where i can load my save and control which pokemons looks legit. If someone know how to open pkhex with an iMac OS Catalina or another program to use only for legality check would be really appreciated

ah another question that comes to me right now, for pokemon events the origin game is decided when the wonder card is redeemed or when i pick up the pokemon in the pokemon center? 

9 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

Origin game =/= Game it is presently in.

yes i know, but since the mark of origin and the region are the same i'm asking if there are other internal bytes that make some differents. Unfortunatly i can't use pkhex at the moment

If i create a pokemon event exclusive of pokemon sun in ultrasun will be legit in pokemon home?

Or a pokemon exclusive of pokemon AS in pokemon OR, or X in Y

in the game all showed data are legit and the mark and region of origin are the same as original pokemons since sun and ultrasun have the same mark and Alola region, etc. for other examples in ORAS or X Y.

When they will be transferred in pokemon home will be there internal datas that make these pokemon illegal?

you're a monster tbh, thanks for the quick answer

I know that pokemon events from gen 1 to 5 got the country/3ds region of the new 3ds system during the pokebank transfer.

Now i'm asking if pokemon transferred from poke bank to Home will have the same process. I'm curious because i have a lot of false events injected with wonder cards of other countries, they seem perfetct in game but i know that internal data not showed in game like country/sub region/3ds region are illegal because these data are generated during wonder card redeem and not match with the language that depends with the game language when the pokemon is picked up in the pokemon center. You can say "why you don't use the same language of the wonder card user?" but i don't think is possible to know what country it was used for an european event, so for example i have a Descartes Xerneas that in game looks perfect with english language but then he has Spain as internal data Country. If someone know a way to know these internal data of pokemons would be fantastic.

Anyway  what happens when they are transferred in Home? Would be all easy if they change like from gen 5 to 6. Do i have a chance to make them legal?

I learned a lot reading @theSLAYER articles and answears, I hope to continue to learn from you