memjee Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) STILL EDITING UPDATED This team is like a sandstall now... kinda. It's a standard team and defensively orientated. As every pokemon here has at least a 100 base defense or Sp.Defense stat if not having both and they compliment each others weaknesses. This way it's easier to switch, and it really is. Roserade (F) @ Focus Sash Role: Lead Spiker Ability: Natural Cure Evs: 4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe Timid nature - Sleep Powder - Toxic Spikes - Leaf Storm - Hidden Power Fire Info: Blissey has been a hinderance for my empoleon for a long time. But if Blisseys poisoned Empoleons chances are better. My only worry this pokemon closely resembles my Celebi. --- Rotom-S @ Leftovers Role: Spin Blocker Evs: 252 HP/168 Def/88 Spe Bold Nature - Discharge - Shadowball - Air Slash - Reflect Info: My Spin Blocker, I know that Rotom-S is outclassed by his fellow counterparts but I needed a check for Machamp who has been giving my team problems. Reflect could give my Empoleon a chance to begin setting up. I also brought him in because of my apparent weakness to ground type. --- Empoleon (M) @ Petaya Berry Role: Special Sweeper Ability: Torrent EVs: 8 HP/14 Def/236 Spd/252 SAtk Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Agility - Substitute - Surf - Ice Beam Info: My favorite sweeper, most of my standard teams revolve around him. The strategy is pretty much known, so he's no longer underestimated like before. He's still great though. --- Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers Role: Empoleon Guardian, Physical Wall Ability: Sand Veil EVs: 252 HP/40 Def/216 Spe Jolly nature -Earthquake -Roost -Stealth Rock -Taunt Info: It used to be celebi, but he does the same job, gets complimented by sand stream and breaks stall teams, which I was weak too. --- Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers Role: Special Defensive Tank Ability: Sand Stream EVs: 252 HP/40 Def/216 SDef Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Curse - Payback - Rest - Sleep Talk Info: It's funny how the little fairy is the physical wall and the imposing dinosaur is the special wall This slot was originally my white herb dragonite, then I realized most of my pokemon are steel, so they'd do fine in sandstorm. He's basically my weather negater, the sandstorm is just a decent plus for me as none of my strategies revolve around it. I use Cursetar, he's a special defensive beast, even a gengar focus blast didn't kill him when he was at full health. --- Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf Role: Fire Sponge/Sweeper/Revenge Killer Ability: Flash Fire EVs: 4 Atk/252 Spd/252 SAtk Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Earth Power - Explosion - Flamethrower - Dragon Pulse Info: Well I have a ton of steel pokemon plus a celebi so I needed something to prevent death. Heatran is glue of my team, covering my blatant fire weaknessnes. But he's proven to be more than that, aside from being a focal point of my defense he's also become a reliable sweeper, getting fired up constantly makes him more powerful. He's also my mandatory revenge killer. Also how do my post cool pictures of my pokemon?? xDD OLD POKEMON Metagross @ Occa Berry Role: Suicide Lead Ability: Clear Body EVs: 246 HP/252 Atk/12 Spd Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Bullet Punch - Explosion - Stealth Rock - Earthquake/meteor mash Info: Standard Metagross lead, to this day I can't decide if I should use MM or EQ, what do you think? With earthquake I make it's speed EVs 16 to outspeed opponents who made their lead metagrosses speed EVs 12 to outspeed 8 speed EVs lead metagrosses! Which is surprisingly a pretty common situation. Scizor (M) @ Choice Band Role: Physical Sweeper/Bait Ability: Swarm EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 Spd Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - U-turn - Bullet Punch - Pursuit - Superpower Info: Standard CB Scizor, it pursuits and BPs. It's also flamethower bait for my heatran. although it's considered "beastly" it's not doing that great for me, it's my least effective pokemon on my squad. Any suggestions? Dragonite (M) @ White Herb Role: Mixed Attacker EVs: 168 Atk/100 Spe/240 SpA Naughty nature - Superpower - Fire Blast - Draco Meteor - Extremespeed Celebi @ Leftovers Role: Defensive Wall Ability: Natural Cure EVs: 252 HP/220 Def/36 Spd/2 SAtk Bold nature (+Def, -Atk) - Grass Knot - Recover - Stealth Rock - Hidden Power [Fire] Info: My defensive wall, this bad boy works wonders for me. It's basically Empoleons Guardian, defending it and making sure it's counters are dealt with so it can begin sweeping. Edited April 27, 2010 by memjee
Tsukasa Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 This is just a question: How has this team fared against Earthquake? Your entire team is weak to it with the exception of Celebi.
crimson assassin Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 I reccomend finding some replacemoent for like 2 pokes on your team as tsukasa said your entire team has an EQ weakness except siczor and celebi. i suggest you drop celibi for something like uxie@light clay relaxed 252 def/252spdef/6 hp reflect light screen thunder wave u-turn it resist ground all together it has thunder wave so it still slows the game down and give you complete control and lets you steer the match in any direction you want to while it still has a bug weakness it is not a 4x bug resistance and wont almost faint at every u-turn. plus it bulks up your team and helps you set up so much easier and if you are going to drop siczor pick up a gyarados or a salamence gyarados provides more bulk while still being able to set up and sweep or mence is a better mixed sweeper plus can be on the bulkier side after an intimidate. here is a custom mence set i made myself salamence@leftovers or lum berry rash~intimidate ev's:180atk/110spatk/220speed fire blast sub dragon dance dragon claw sub is here for blocking off para and burn hax then you can just set up safely from behind a sub. and after 2 or three dragon dances you can tear down pokemon who resist your dragon claws and i run dragon claw as you getting locked into outrage means you are less likely to hold a sub and beside that i think outrage is a horrible move its one of the few moves I'd never put on a poke. this set checks everything with just 2 moves and a little setting up and it works wonderful with dual screening uxie because uxie helps it by bulking up it's subs and allowing it to set up a bit more
memjee Posted April 22, 2010 Author Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) - Tsukasaa, surprisingly earthquake does nothing to Celebi (A double DD Tyranitar only did 21%!) but if he's gone I see your point. I'm probably going to remove scizor for a flying pokemon. - Crinsom Assassin I am very familiar with those two pokemon, (I've ran DDmence, SpecsMence, Mixmence, Classicmixmence, Leadddmence, DDgya, BounceDDgya,CB Gya, Lead Gya) So I know just how effective those two pokemon are. I'll try your salamence set and also a gyarados in exchange for scizor. But I'm keeping celebi, he's meant to be paired with empoleon. Uxie seems good, but he doesn't cover empoleons electric weakness, and he won't be able to put up an offensive threat like Celebi does, uxie blocks empoleons counters but celebi can also Ko them. I also realized I had swarm on my scizor, but with my aparent eq weaknesses I'm still switching it. thanks for the advice I'm take everything into consideration. Edited April 27, 2010 by memjee
wraith89 Posted April 27, 2010 Posted April 27, 2010 (edited) Also how do my post cool pictures of my pokemon?? xDD Use the Image tags. Grab some pictures of Pokemon and upload them to tinypic.com or something and use [noparse][/noparse]. I would have suggested Gliscor to take everything Empoleon is weak to (and vice versa) but you have Rotom and Celebi to complement all that... so it is all fine. Edited April 29, 2010 by wraith89
memjee Posted April 27, 2010 Author Posted April 27, 2010 hmmm cool time to put pictures!! actually your rite, celebi and Roserade attacks are too identical. I'm gonna replace celebi with gliscor, it's in sandstorm anyways. But that makes heatran not as important with the lack of fire weaknesses. I might replace him as well, I'm thinking vapoureon.
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