ZA Pkhex Legality Porblem

[PedroKeitawa]

I premise that i never edit this Pokemon as this is the first time i can check them with Pkhex and aside from the Pokemon in the team all the boxes result not legal. But i have video proof for some that i catche them in game on the Switch 2, i assume this is a Pkhex problem becouse otherwise i don't know what caused this.

I attach the screenshot and the problem is in the moves and the height/weight. For Alpha mon insted Pkhex also assign immediatly the Alpha mark, some i have a semi explanation as i deposited in home after the update, so maybe home give the alpha mark? But others have not touch home at all. So i don't know ware the problem is.

Somebody can explain it to me?

[Kaphotics]

When was PKHeX last updated? Why are you expecting HOME transfers in to be flawlessly recognized, which is "new" as of a couple days ago?

[PedroKeitawa]

2 minutes ago, Kaphotics said:

When was PKHeX last updated? Why are you expecting HOME transfers in to be flawlessly recognized, which is "new" as of a couple days ago?

I updated today as i noticed the new version. No i did not expect to be flawless, i just tought was the problem. But as i said this happen to mon that never touched home, unless opening the save file in home count as entering home. Then is just a false positive if that is the case.

[Kaphotics]

PKHeX was last updated March 20th, which was ~2 weeks ago. HOME's update to allow inbound transfers was 2 days ago.

PKHeX does not have handling for inbound transfers, because it does not have a future-predicting crystal ball to know exactly how GameFreak/ILCA will implement it.

[OmriP]

I have a similar problem. A scovillain I caught in ZA and shows as illegal in PKhex ZA. It's not an inbound transfer from another game so I'm confused, is it simply because the game version has updated? Will a future update to PKhex solve this problem?

[Kaphotics]

3 hours ago, OmriP said:

I have a similar problem. A scovillain I caught in ZA and shows as illegal in PKhex ZA. It's not an inbound transfer from another game so I'm confused, is it simply because the game version has updated? Will a future update to PKhex solve this problem?

Too vague.

[hikachu]

I encountered this same issue so I did some testing and here's what I observed:

• When connecting to HOME, all Pokemon regardless of whether or not they are actually moved will have all PP set to 0 and their Height and Weight adjusted to be equal to the Scale value (e.g. a Pokemon with Scale 137 will have both Height and Weight set to 137). This happens even if you immediately save and quit without moving any Pokemon. I don't know if there are any other changes, but these are the two issues that violate PKHeX's current legality check. The HOME tracker is still all 0s for Pokemon that were never put in HOME.
• After a save file is accessed in HOME and you start up the game, PP can be corrected under certain conditions. I haven't tested this extensively, but it seems to be automatically corrected for Pokemon in your party and for Pokemon in boxes if you alter their moves such as swapping move positions. Even if you swap just two of a Pokemon's moves, all their moves will have their PP fixed. But Pokemon that don't meet these conditions will still have 0s for their PP.
• In PKHeX, if you change a Pokemon's PP back to their normal values and set their Height and Weight back to 0, it will pass the legality check. If you then save and restore that save file, access it in HOME, and then open that save in PKHeX, that edited Pokemon will again have their Height and Weight set equal to the Scale value and PPs all set to 0. I don't know if editing a Pokemon this way will have any repercussions though (I used a separate basic account of HOME in just in case).
• After a save has been accessed by HOME, newly-caught Pokemon in Z-A will still have Height and Weight at 0 and non-zero PP values as long as HOME is not accessed again.

The takeaway is that HOME seems to be altering certain values for all Pokemon in the save regardless of their origin and whether they were moved in HOME or not. The Height/Weight change is probably for future-proofing those values. iirc Legends Arceus had the opposite problem since Scale didn't exist back then, Pokemon transferred from that game simply had their scale set to 0 until a later HOME update. The PP issue might just be HOME ignoring PP values for Z-A (since the game doesn't utilize it) and just sets it all to 0 when it alters the save, especially since the game corrects it anyways under certain conditions. I haven't gone as far as comparing pa9 files for other possible alterations though.

Edited 12 hours ago by hikachu

[ZukuUzu]

I assume there'll be an update soon that includes legality for the new Home stuff, it just came out afterall