Pokémon Starter and pokeball

[manolin18]

Hello, I was reviewing my Pokémon collection and noticed that pkhex says that all starters from generations 2, 3, 4, and 5 cannot be captured with Heal Ball, Dusk Ball, or Quick Ball (all Poké Balls introduced in generation 4) if they have the hidden ability.
Is this true? I remember that all of those starters can be caught in Generation VII thanks to Island Scan.

One more question: can the starters from Generations I, III, and IV be caught with Dream Balls?

 

[Kaphotics]

Depends on the game they were bred in, and the game's rules for inheriting ability and ball.

[manolin18]

5 hours ago, Kaphotics said:

Depends on the game they were bred in, and the game's rules for inheriting ability and ball.

Let me clarify this a little further. They are all bred in Ultra Sun. Here is an example:
- Male Emboar (HA) Cherish Ball + Ditto = Female Tepig (HA) Poké Ball
- Female Tepig (HA) Poké Ball + Male Emboar Dusk Ball = Tepig (HA) Dusk Ball
In theory, in Generation VII, if the father and mother are of the same species, there is a 50% chance that it will inherit the father's Poké Ball.

I think it's a pkhex bug. Furthermore, it only happens with those three Poké Balls; with others such as Moon Ball, Beast Ball, Repeat Ball, etc., there is no such problem.

I've solved my other question. I found that the starters from the 1st, 3rd, and 4th generations were distributed with Dream Balls.

[manolin18]

In the end, no one answered me, so I used the 3dsrngtool to clear up my doubts
- Male Emboar (HA) Cherish Ball + Ditto = Female Tepig (HA) PokéBall. The Cherish Ball cannot be inherited, and Ditto cannot pass on its PokéBall either.

- Female Tepig (HA) Poké Ball + Male Emboar Dusk Ball = Tepig (HA) Dusk Ball. As you can see in the screenshot, you get a Male Tepig with the hidden ability and the father's PokéBall.

So it's a pkhex bug, I hope they can fix it soon.

[Kaphotics]

On 9/18/2025 at 9:34 PM, manolin18 said:

Hello, I was reviewing my Pokémon collection and noticed that pkhex says that all starters from generations 2, 3, 4, and 5 cannot be captured with Heal Ball, Dusk Ball, or Quick Ball (all Poké Balls introduced in generation 4) if they have the hidden ability.
Is this true? I remember that all of those starters can be caught in Generation VII thanks to Island Scan.

One more question: can the starters from Generations I, III, and IV be caught with Dream Balls?

 

Thanks, fixed on latest commit: https://github.com/kwsch/PKHeX/commit/a1c9e3a6150f5e5449845273eb8f1d981458521e

To answer your question, yes, they can be caught in Dream Balls in Generation 5 via the Dream World => Entree Forest encounter feature.

[manolin18]

On 11/21/2025 at 3:57 AM, Kaphotics said:

Thanks, fixed on latest commit: https://github.com/kwsch/PKHeX/commit/a1c9e3a6150f5e5449845273eb8f1d981458521e

To answer your question, yes, they can be caught in Dream Balls in Generation 5 via the Dream World => Entree Forest encounter feature.

I'm glad I could help in some way

I later discovered that the initials I was referring to were distributed at PGL events.