KimoTh3rapy Posted March 1, 2010 Posted March 1, 2010 (edited) It's been doing decently on Shoddy Battle, but im not 100% sure about it. Current Lineup Right now I'm using this for Shoddy Battles, but I plan on making it once I get SS for wi-fi battles I'm fairly new to the whole competitive pokemon thing, but I spent a lot of time thinking and researching so here it is. My main concerns with the lineup is there isn't enough power, which Is why I included the Dragonite as a possible switch in. Also, I am really susceptible to Electric and Ghost pokemon, especially Rotom lol. please rate and gimmie some feedback, greatly appreciated. Aerodactyl @ Leftovers Jolly Nature (+Speed, -SAtk) Pressure EVs: 252 Speed, 240 HP, 16 Attack Set-up - Stone edge - Roost - Stealth Rock - Whirlwind Use Stealth Rock, and then use whirlwind until I know their whole lineup pretty much lol, dealing damage with stealth rock obviously. I have roost in there to get some HP back in case I get into trouble, also Stone Edge for some regular damage. Porygon Z @ Silk Scarf Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk) Adaptability EVs: 4 Defense / 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed Special Sweep - Tri Attack - Recover - Dark Pulse - Nasty Plot Well, not a lot to say about this except ridiculous damage. Tri Attack alone will around 200 Damage all things considered, it pretty much 1 hit KO's anything after a nasty plot. Dark pulse is for fighting off ghost pokemon, seeing as how that's one of my major concerns with this lineup. Kingdra @ Leftovers Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) Sniper EVs: 4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed Physical Sweep - Substitute - Dragon Dance - Waterfall - Outrage Substitute first, then thrown in a dragon dance, maybe a focus energy if the substitute isnt already broken. Sniper + Scope Lens makes crit hits really effective, and outrage is just plain powerful once set up. This pokemon works really well in 2v2 battles. Breloom @ Toxic Orb Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) Poison Heal EVs: (252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP) - Spore - Substitute - Focus Punch - Seed Bomb Standard Breloom Strat. Togekiss @ Leftovers Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk) Serene Grace EVs: 252 HP / 4 Defense / 252 Special Defense Mixed Sweep - Air Slash - Roost - Aura Sphere - Thunder Wave With Serene Grace, Thunder Wave, and Air Slash, they opponent has about a 30% chance of hitting instead of being paralyzed or flinching. Roost is there for obvious reasons, and Aura Sphere is just a good move Relicanth @ Leftovers Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) Rock Head EVs: 240 HP / 252 Attack / 16 Defense Physical Wall - Head Smash - Waterfall - Rest - Sleep Talk Rock Head + Head Smash is a great combo, waterfall because I needed a water move in my lineup, and the classic Rest + Sleep Talk for recovery. Giga Drain acts as the main move here, One I leech seed, that + giga drain + big root can be pretty effective, throw a toxic in there, and it's one hell of a pokemon. Sludge Bomb as an alternate attack. -- If you see any serious problems with the lineup, I included some options I think would be good below. Possible Lineup Additions/Swaps: Sweepers: Dragonite @ Jolly / Inner Focus / Wide Lens (Physical Sweeper) Dragon Rush Aqua Tail Iron Tail Stone Edge Heatran @ Calm / Flash Fire / Leftovers (Special Sweeper) Substitute Protect Torment Lava Plume Arcanine @ Jolly / Pressure / Leftovers (Mixed Sweeper) Flare Blitz Extremespeed Morning Sun Toxic Walls: Articuno @ Hardy / Pressure / Focus Band (Special Wall) Roost Substitute Mind Reader Sheer Cold Venusaur @ Mild / Overgrow / Big Root Toxic Leech Seed Giga Drain Sludge Bomb Shuckle @ Relaxed / Sturdy / Leftovers (Mixed Wall) Dig Rest Toxic Protect Edited March 11, 2010 by KimoTh3rapy
Tbird Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Ok I don't play OU all that much so I can only really point out obvious things, if you want technical in depth bamf ideas you'll have to wait But straight away I know I don't like the look of frenzy plant on Venusaur. This is for two reasons. A) If skarmory or forretress is switched in, or any other pokemon that resists it switches into it, you have given that pokemon a turn to set up when whilst you charge - Similalry, unlike porygonZ, it doesn't have the pure ruthless power of STAB adapt base 130Spatk hyper beam lol. B) You already have a hyper beam, and even that on is a bit risky, don't go giving the opposition two turns to set up. Also I don't think Togekiss will be out-speeding many things with no speed EV investment, can't be assed to do an EV spread atm - might do later. But without any speed you won't be flinching many people. So for Venusaur I recommend you slap on Leaf storm and throw all Atk EV's into SpAtk. This way you have more power than frenzy plant and you don't lose a turn. However if you don't like the stat drop, you could keep the atk EV's and throw on Powerwhip or Earthquake, Earthquake on those that resists your stab giga drain. Mind you Skarmory will always wall you, so make sure you eliminate Skarm first. (or you could remedy this by throwing on HP fire with all in SpAtk - but then you'll have Blissey troubles so it's about lesser of the two evils really) Edit: Just saw your Articuno - you won't be able to use it as OHKO moves are banned from competitive play.
KimoTh3rapy Posted March 3, 2010 Author Posted March 3, 2010 thanks for the suggestions, I got rid of Hyper Beam on PZ and replaced it with Dark Pulse. and did the same thing with Fenzy Plant and Sludge Bomb for venusaur.
KimoTh3rapy Posted March 3, 2010 Author Posted March 3, 2010 Eh, I decided to get rid of Venusaur all together. it was always my weakest link, never did what it was theoretically supposed to do. Put in a breloom instead. And I got rid of Skarmory for Aerodactyle. the role is exactly the same, but Aerodactyle is just faster.
Shogun Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 Breloom and Togekiss are okay, but everything else is bound to fail. First of all if you're using a defensive Aerodactyl you need Sandstorm from Hippowdon or Tyranitar. I recommend that you make this Aerodactyl use Stone Edge,Earthquake, Stealth Rock and Taunt, with standard 4 HP, 252 attack, 252 speed. Porygon-Z can work. That Kingdra looks like it's too far fetched and would probably be better with Waterfall over Focus Energy. Also it will kill itself with confusion so you might want to consider changing this set. The Relicanth is cool, but it has too many weaknesses and counters to be used in standard. Also if you're using a Torment Heatran you should use it in semi-stall with Spikes/Toxic Spikes. Dragonite doesn't need Stine Edge or Iron Tail. Use Earthquake/Superpower and a Fire move instead. Err I could help you edit your team, but maybe tomorrow. (Tired)
KimoTh3rapy Posted March 11, 2010 Author Posted March 11, 2010 yeah, I changed up Focus Energy for Waterfall and gave him Leftovers (kingdra). My relicanth is doing surprisingly well, I love that poke
Shogun Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 So... I've been able to help? . I'm glad that Relicanth works well. You should use 240 HP, 252 Attack, 12 Defense, and 4 Speed, so you could outpeed Blissey. Anyways if you ever have any questions or something that you'd like to comment, I would glady reply :}
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