Technical question about editing

[Samus]

Hi,

I actually hunt for a living Dex (regular and shiny) only in Pokeball and with my OT.

Yet, some Pokemon can be catched with this settings only on PoGo : 

- Galarian Articuno Shiny : Adventure  Encens (From 10/04/2024)

- Galarian Zapdos Shiny : Adventure  Encens (From 10/04/2024)

- Galarian Moltres Shiny : Adventure  Encens (From 10/04/2024)

- Marshadow : Quest

- Zacian Shiny : Pokemon Go Battle

- Zamazenta Shiny : Pokemon Go Battle (From 10/04/2024)

 

So, this Pokemon with needed settings are (or will be) legal on Home.

I understood that we can't generate on PkHex Pokemon from PoGo cause Home Tracker of Pokemon from PoGo can be anticipated.

How work the Home Tracker ?

 

And what about editing, example : 

1) I transfer Zacian in Honor Ball (regular) from PoGo to my Home (get my OT)

2) I trade it to someone who can take it on Sw/Sh

3) This person edit it with Pokeball and Shiny

4) I get it back on my Home by trade

Will Zacian still be legit ?

 

Thanks for help.

[Kaphotics]

4 hours ago, Samus said:

How work the Home Tracker ?

 

4 hours ago, Samus said:

Will Zacian still be legit ?

Of course not. HOME has already seen it in a different ball; balls are immutable, therefore it's obviously hacked.

[Samus]

Hi,

I already read this post, but I don't understand why we can't generate a Pokemon from PoGo and why from Sw/Sh it's possible ?

 

I don't ask if it will be HACKED. I ask if it will be LEGIT in appearance.

When you generate a Pokemon from Sw/Sh, it's hacked but if you generate it correctly, it's legit too.

[Kaphotics]

You cannot generate it legally as it must originate direct inside HOME, instead of on a player-controlled game like SW/SH. The server checks every upload to see if it has the original data, and if it can't find it, you get error 10015. Transfers from their native game (e.g. SW/SH) are the origin of data, so the server captures that and assigns a tracker. SW/SH uploads are always allowed by the server, but the server PKH data will lack the GO data, and will still be illegal if someone checked.

Anything generated is never "legit", it is at best "legal" if it is visually indistinguishable from something that was legitimately obtained.

[Samus]

20 hours ago, Kaphotics said:

You cannot generate it legally as it must originate direct inside HOME, instead of on a player-controlled game like SW/SH. The server checks every upload to see if it has the original data, and if it can't find it, you get error 10015. Transfers from their native game (e.g. SW/SH) are the origin of data, so the server captures that and assigns a tracker. SW/SH uploads are always allowed by the server, but the server PKH data will lack the GO data, and will still be illegal if someone checked.

Anything generated is never "legit", it is at best "legal" if it is visually indistinguishable from something that was legitimately obtained.

Do you think that one day PKH will get data from Go for a right generate like SW/SH ?

Yeah, that's the definition of legit : "indistinguishable from something that was legitimately obtained"
And I want this Pokemon legit. But PKH don't let me generate them cause they are from Go.

[Kaphotics]

PKHeX will never be able to generate data directly into HOME. The program is a SAVE FILE EDITOR. 

You can never hack a "legitimate" Pokemon into existence, only "legal" Pokemon. A legitimate Pokemon is one that was obtained with normal gameplay. It either is obtained legitimately, or it is hacked into the game. Whether it is legal or illegal depends on if it is indistinguishable in comparison to a legit Pokemon.