Increasing a Gen 7 Incineroar's Size in Gen 9

[jtxhob]

Hi all,

Hope you're well. I was just looking to see if there is any way at all to increase the size of my Pokémon Sun starter, an Incineroar. It deeply cherish it. But when I transferred it to Pokémon Violet, I noticed that it's size was too small compared to other Pokémon. As silly as it might sound, it's left me a bit upset. Is there any way at all that I'd be able to legally increase its size using PKHex? I know that the HOME tracker and discontinuation of the 3DS online connectivity are a bit of a nuisance, but I really am desperate.

 

If it helps, I do have a pk9 file of the Incineroar with its size increased. The PKHex legality tracker seems to say its legal. But I'm not sure if it actually will be for any trade sysbots.

 

Appreciate your help!

[Kaphotics]

Since you modified one of the immutable values, HOME will know and will reject it if you try to move it back in. PKHeX does not know the HOME upload data, it only has the data from the sav/PKM.

You can try manually transferring it back to Gen7 and then retry transferring to HOME until you get a satisfactory value, but that's something that HOME can potentially detect in the future (importing same values).

[jtxhob]

Hi, thanks for your reply, Kaphotics. Really appreciate it

Any ideas on how to manually transfer it to Gen 7? I'm willing to give it a go.

[Kaphotics]

PKHeX has a setting you can enable to turn on backwards conversion, but it isn't perfect. You'd have to manually add the information that was lost during transfer (such as 3DS origin info).

[jtxhob]

On 4/28/2024 at 12:29 AM, Kaphotics said:

PKHeX has a setting you can enable to turn on backwards conversion, but it isn't perfect. You'd have to manually add the information that was lost during transfer (such as 3DS origin info).

Any ideas on how I can go about trying this? I happen to have a pk9 file of the Pokémon that has its details. Thanks again!

[Kaphotics]

30 minutes ago, jtxhob said:

Any ideas on how I can go about trying this? I happen to have a pk9 file of the Pokémon that has its details. Thanks again!

Open your Gen7 save file, enable the setting, drop in the pk9, fix any issues, then clone it and import until you find a satisfactory value after HOME migrates it.

[jtxhob]

On 5/7/2024 at 11:17 PM, Kaphotics said:

Open your Gen7 save file, enable the setting, drop in the pk9, fix any issues, then clone it and import until you find a satisfactory value after HOME migrates it.

Just to clarify that I've got this right:

1. I change the PKHex mode from 'Gen 9' to 'Gen 7'

2. I try to re-create the pk9 file in the Gen 7 mode so that it is a pk7 file

3. I send this file into a Gen 7 game

4. I use HOME to transfer it a Gen 9 game.

If I've got this right, then my next question is, how do I get that pk7 file into a Gen 7 game? I believe that Nintendo discontinued the ability to allow online trades (e.g. with a sysbot) to occur. Is there another way I'm not aware of?

Again, really really appreciate your help, Kaphotics.

[Kaphotics]

Hack your 3DS, then you can edit the save data from Gen7.

Change the entity converter setting to allow backwards conversion / incompatible conversions. Then you can drop a pk9 into a pk7 and fix any remaining issues.