Gen 2 -> 7 Transfer question

[Newtwo]

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the forum.Sorry I moved the post here with a hope to get more accurate answer.

I use PKheX to transfer Pokémon from VC games to USUM.When I transfer pokes from VC games I usually increase some EXP. to get the nature I want.

But when I transferring  some shinies from Crystal To UM , I noticed they had the extra EXP. not eliminated .I remember when I used bank in the past,It used to eliminate those EXP.

Am I doing something wrong? Or this is how it's supposed to work? 

And another question.Is the PID created completely random or as how the bank does? 

I'm worried about the legitimacy of those mons as I soft reseted for them a lot and thought I should ask in here..

Any help much appreciated 

Thanks

[theSLAYER]

I'm surprised no one else replied to this. Anyway, here goes nothing:

On 2/27/2019 at 8:48 PM, Newtwo said:

I use PKheX to transfer Pokémon from VC games to USUM.When I transfer pokes from VC games I usually increase some EXP. to get the nature I want.

But when I transferring  some shinies from Crystal To UM , I noticed they had the extra EXP. not eliminated .I remember when I used bank in the past,It used to eliminate those EXP.

It's fine as it is. You can freely change the nature in PKHeX, so it isn't really a problem.
Unless you used Game Sync to sync your save onto PGL server, it wouldn't know that your Pokemon suddenly changed nature. (and that is if they even implemented such a feature) ><

On 2/27/2019 at 8:48 PM, Newtwo said:

And another question.Is the PID created completely random or as how the bank does? 

As far as we know, it is mostly random.
They'll purposely ignore setting PIDs that makes a species shiny or non-shiny, when it isn't shiny or is shiny, respectively.

 

[remember, this is in context to VC games where PID doesn't exist in their data-structure.
If transferring up from Gen 5, if the existing PID would result in a change in shiny status (due to Gen 5 and Gen 6 having different shiny rates), they'll flip a bit on the PID, to keep it non-shiny]

On 2/27/2019 at 8:48 PM, Newtwo said:

I'm worried about the legitimacy of those mons as I soft reseted for them a lot and thought I should ask in here..

If you're that worried, just use Transporter/Bank.

PKHeX pretty much emulates the transfer properly (ignoring trash bytes, if any), if you're that concerned, just use Transporter/Bank.
After all, PKHeX is a use at your own risk type of thing, and if you can't accept the risk, then simply don't :/

Last thing we want is to make people uncomfortable :)

[Newtwo]

Thanks for the clarification .

My main purpose for that was to get Perfect IV.Since it's much easier that transporter RNG lol.

And I ended up abusing RNG in Transporter a few days ago.

[Giuliotrem1]

On 3/6/2019 at 12:55 AM, theSLAYER said:

I'm surprised no one else replied to this. Anyway, here goes nothing:

It's fine as it is. You can freely change the nature in PKHeX, so it isn't really a problem.
Unless you used Game Sync to sync your save onto PGL server, it wouldn't know that your Pokemon suddenly changed nature. (and that is if they even implemented such a feature) ><

As far as we know, it is mostly random.
They'll purposely ignore setting PIDs that makes a species shiny or non-shiny, when it isn't shiny or is shiny, respectively.

 

[remember, this is in context to VC games where PID doesn't exist in their data-structure.
If transferring up from Gen 5, if the existing PID would result in a change in shiny status (due to Gen 5 and Gen 6 having different shiny rates), they'll flip a bit on the PID, to keep it non-shiny]

If you're that worried, just use Transporter/Bank.

PKHeX pretty much emulates the transfer properly (ignoring trash bytes, if any), if you're that concerned, just use Transporter/Bank.
After all, PKHeX is a use at your own risk type of thing, and if you can't accept the risk, then simply don't

Last thing we want is to make people uncomfortable

Sorry for quoting a very dated message but i have a situation regarding the transfer from gen 2 to 7 because i thought i had the poke transfer and instead i can only transfer via pokebank.

As you said this means that in Gen 2, having no pid, constant encryption, etc., pkhex creates it randomly. So would my pok become "legal" or does the pid dragging the pok file from gen 2 to gen 7 correspond to what the pokebank exactly does?

I used the coin case glitch on pok silver vc for some pokemon and then I thought I'd try the soft resetting for shiny celebi. However, the problem of not being able to transfer them via poke transfer makes me perplexed.

Thank you in advance

[theSLAYER]

@Giuliotrem1 so what you're saying is.. you can't use Transporter/Bank?

PKHeX will be able to simulate the creation and transfer the data into Gen 7 saves just fine.

Do keep in mind that your Celebi from Silver will be illegal; only legal from Crystal.

[Giuliotrem1]

On 9/27/2024 at 7:53 AM, theSLAYER said:

@Giuliotrem1 so what you're saying is.. you can't use Transporter/Bank?

PKHeX will be able to simulate the creation and transfer the data into Gen 7 saves just fine.

Do keep in mind that your Celebi from Silver will be illegal; only legal from Crystal.

I transferred several gen 6 and 7 pok events with the pokebank but it seems that the poke transporter hasn't been installed and from what i know the use of cia files, for example of the poke transporter, pok yellow etc, would result in a ban.

 

Sorry about the transfer of celebi i meant that once I had done the soft resetting through Pokemon Crystal then I wanted to transfer everything to the Pokebank.

 

We can say that pkhex therefore does the same as the pokebank, it creates a random pid for the gen 2 pokemon, in the sense that even the pokebank by transferring a pokemon "creates" a random identification code (Pid/Ivs, Encryption constant), and therefore based on the moment will associate a different code with it?

By cloning a pokemon 10 times, then transferred with the poke transporter or pkhex every pokemon would have a different pid and shiny dunsparce gen 2 three segments would be impossible as there are very few shiny ones in gen 2, but I only thought this due to conflicting opinions online. While being totally random ivs, pid, encryption constant of a pokemon cloned in gen 2 may find itself becoming 3 segments once transferred to gen 7, but you will certainly know more about it than me

Edited September 30 by Giuliotrem1