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~GC~
Jun 30th, 2009, 12:18 PM
Spiritomb (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/6 Def/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hypnosis
- Dark Pulse
- Shadow Ball
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Blade (Gallade) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Leaf Blade
- Psycho Cut
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Dragon (Salamence) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 234 Atk/252 Spd/24 SAtk
Naughty nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
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Blacc Heart (Froslass) (F) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 6 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball
- Trick
- Confuse Ray
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Snorlax (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Superpower
- Selfdestruct
- Thunderpunch
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Hero (Lucario) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk/6 Def/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed
- Stone Edge
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randomspot555
Jun 30th, 2009, 01:51 PM
Spiritomb (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/6 Def/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hypnosis
- Dark Pulse
- Shadow Ball
Spiritomb is a pretty poor starter. With only average defenses, and in this particular set, it's two attacks hitting pretty much the same Pokemon, not much will fear it. On top of that, Hypnosis' 60% accuracy will dissapoint more often than not.
Honestly, I can't think of a decent set for a Spiritomb lead. It gets Trick, but that usually isn't very good for most lead Pokemon.
If Sleep is your ultimate goal, then you have three leads you can choose from:
Butterfree: Sleep Powder + Compoundeyes = 99% accurate sleep. Can also Stun Spore, which can paralyze ground types.
Bronzong: One of the few users of Hypnosis that can actually afford to take a hit or two. Milotic also, but Milotic is a crappy lead. Bronzong gets screens, Stealth Rock, Safeguard, and Explosion.
Smeargle: Duh
Breloom: See above.
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Blade (Gallade) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bulk Up
- Close Combat
- Leaf Blade/Elemental Punch
- Night SlashPsycho Cut
Night Slash might actually provide better coverage.
As for the set itself, Gallade is a bulky enough Pokemon that increasing it's defenses couldn't hurt. So Bulk Up is a viable option if you change to Leftovers. All of the elemental punches are also available, which probably would provide better overall coverage.
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Dragon (Salamence) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 234 Atk/252 Spd/24 SAtk
Naughty nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
Nothing wrong with the set itself, but it'll go down very quickly without a spinner, especially if snow/sand is up.
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Blacc Heart (Froslass) (F) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 6 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam/
- Shadow Ball
- Trick
- Confuse Ray
I'm not really sure what Froslass can do that Specs Starmie or Specs Gengar can't do better. Mind explaining?
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Snorlax (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Superpower
- Selfdestruct
- Thunderpunch
Gengar can come in on 3/4 of your attacks and force a switch, as well as any ghost type. Throw in Crunch somewhere.
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Hero (Lucario) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk/6 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed
- Ice Punch
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Now it can deal with Lucario, though I fail to see what Lucario is doing that Gallade already isn't.
Overall, you have:
Repeated switching will rack up stealth rock/spikes damage, with no spinner.
Besides Spiritomb, not a single Pokemon can regain any health. In fact, many are holding Life Orb. Your matches will probably be over VERY quickly. Hopefully with you as the victor. But if you encounter a Rest Talker, it could be deadly.
Expanding on the last point, you have 5 sweepers, only one of which can actually take any amount of hits, and it's going to Selfdestruct.
No one can reliably absorb status. You've got some immunities, but that's it.
After Froslass is gone, any number of bulky waters and Skarmory can give this team big problems.
With only one fire attack on the entire team, Scizor could too.
You need to come up with a strategy, and then make a coherent team. Right now, this is just 6 Pokemon thrown together.
~GC~
Jun 30th, 2009, 02:08 PM
yea my 6 favorites i chose those pokemon cuz theyre my favorites and tried to make them as divers as i could ^_^ thanks
Edit: Lucario was added because i could figure out a sixth pokemon care to help lol
randomspot555
Jun 30th, 2009, 03:58 PM
yea my 6 favorites i chose those pokemon cuz theyre my favorites and tried to make them as divers as i could ^_^ thanks
Edit: Lucario was added because i could figure out a sixth pokemon care to help lol
There's nothing inherently wrong with using your favorites, but that shouldn't be why you're using them. You have an extremely unbalanced team, and of your two Pokemon who can take tons of damage, you plan on exploding it.
But the point of a competitive team is to battle and, hopefully, win. With 6 random Pokemon thrown together with no strategy demonstrated, that isn't likely to happen.
~GC~
Jun 30th, 2009, 04:54 PM
who should i replace lucario with?
randomspot555
Jun 30th, 2009, 06:05 PM
who should i replace lucario with?
I have no idea. Your OP doesn't have anything about your strategy as an overall team or the individual Pokemon, what role you want them to fill, what they can counter, etc....
I mean, you're free to make a thread in RMT like that. But then it basically boils down to "omgzers ur attaks rox0rz mi s0xorz" or "lol ur attks suckz d00d!111!"
TLDR: A few sentences per Pokemon + A few sentences on your overall team are pretty essential for a good RMT thread, for both the OP and the raters.
wraith89
Jun 30th, 2009, 09:49 PM
Why don't you post your new team GC with the Porygon-Z sweep idea? I want to see if it still has some holes in it. Other people might give you a much better feedback than I ever could.
~GC~
Jul 1st, 2009, 11:13 AM
thats a good idea wraith even tho ur still the mastermind lol
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