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  1. 7 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

    At least we know is it tied to a move tutor, now can pinpoint which one.
    Also, if you made a save backup per move tutor, could just check at which point the flag was triggered (on PKHeX)

    Sorry, I didn't make any backups per tutor. I just wanted to get it over with because it was a hassle tracking them all down one by one. I saved immediately after I got all 4 because I was so glad I found everything and didn't wanna risk losing my progress. Thinking back, the developers probably intended for the Heart Scales to ONLY spawn after using up all (or some) in-game move tutors as some form of RSE-related irony. At least the mystery of the hidden Heart Scales has been solved lol. 

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  2. On October 29, 2018 at 6:31 AM, cicciochiave said:

    Hi, for the Big Pearl at Trainer Tower you need to unset flag 1185

      Reveal hidden contents

    For those who don't know where it is: 

    2eo8sj6.png

    As for the Heart Scales, i can't find them... in every island of the Tanoby Ruins the Itemfinder didn't find anything, but they should be there ?

     

    1 hour ago, theSLAYER said:

    You could give that a try XD

    Yessssssssss. I can 100% confirm that using up ALL the one-time move tutors will naturally spawn the Heart Scales. Although, it was probably only triggered by using up a particular move tutor. I took no chances and did them all just to cover all bases. I FINALLY found all the Leaf Green hidden items, I can finally rest easy 😅.

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  3. On October 29, 2018 at 8:06 PM, theSLAYER said:

    I have the same problem with the Heart Scales. They aren't there, and I'm sure I didn't take them, as I didn't even know they supposedly existed.

    edit: Apparently someone documented the internal IDs for the hidden items:
    https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=399026


    If the event flags also ascend in a similar style, knowing the before or after event flag IDs of the items in the same order,
    would have been enough XD

    edit2:
    Nest Ball in Rocket Warehouse. When obtained, 1068 -> Set
    If the flags are sequential, 1064 to 1067 are the tanoby heart scales.
    Gonna test it.
     

    edit3: HAHAHAHAHA
    image.png

    I was right. Unsetting those four flags allowed all 4 heart scales to appear in the game.

    Final edit (Probably):
    Based on the table and the numerical difference, I came up with a new table that attempts to match the flag ID with the internal ID.
    Note that it is likely not accurate, as the Big Pearl ID doesn't match @cicciochiave previously reported id.
    However, it's a good indicator for flag values in the range, as it clearly worked for the 4 heart scales.

     

    Table for various hidden items and event flag ID.

    Table is in the spoiler below:

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    Advanced Map ID (Internal Rom IDs basically)
    Item ID | Item | Location | Map # (For Use with A-Map)
    Event Flag ID (as recognized by PKHeX)
    00 - Potion - Viridian Forest - (1.0) 1000
    01 - Antidote - Viridian Forest - (1.0) 1001
    02 - Moon Stone - Mt. Moon Floor 3 - (1.3) 1002
    03 - Ether - Mt. Moon Floor 3 - (1.3) 1003
    04 - Elixir - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1004
    05 - Ether - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1005
    06 - Ether - Route 9 - (3.27) 1006
    07 - N/A - N/A - N/A 1007
    08 - Hyper Potion - S.S Anne Inside - (1.8) 1008
    09 - Super Potion - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1009
    0A - Max Ether - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1010
    0B - PP Up - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 1 - (1.42) 1011
    0C - Nugget - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 3 - (1.44) 1012
    0D - Nest Ball - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 4 - (1.45) 1013
    0E - Big Mushroom - Pokémon Tower Floor 5 - (1.92) 1014
    0F - PP Up - Route 13 - (3.31) 1015
    10 - N/A - N/A - N/A 1016
    11 - Rare Candy - Route 17 - (3.35) 1017
    12 - Full Restore - Route 17 - (3.35) 1018
    13 - PP Up - Route 17 - (3.35) 1019
    14 - Max Revive - Route 17 - (3.35) 1020
    15 - Max Elixir - Route 17 - (3.35) 1021
    16 - Leaf Stone - Safari Zone Area 1 - (1.63) 1022
    17 - Revive - Safari Zone Area 4 - (1.66) 1023
    18 - Elixir - Silph Co. Floor 5 - (1.51) 1024
    19 - Max Potion - Silph Co. Floor 9 - (1.55) 1025
    1A - Nugget - Copycat's Room (14.1) 1026
    1B - Max Elixir - Power Plant - (1.95) 1027
    1C - Thunder Stone - Power Plant - (1.95) 1028
    1D - Nugget - Seafoam Islands Floor 4 - (1.86) 1029
    1E - Water Stone - Seafoam Islands Floor 5 - (1.87) 1030
    1F - Moon Stone - Pokémon Mansion Floor 1 - (1.59) 1031
    20 - Rare Candy - Pokémon Mansion Floor 3 - (1.61) 1032
    21 - Elixir - Pokémon Mansion Floor 4 - (1.62) 1033
    22 - Full Restore - Route 23 - (3.42) 1034
    23 - Ultra Ball - Route 23 - (3.42) 1035
    24 - Max Ether - Route 23 - (3.42) 1036
    25 - Ultra Ball - Victory Road Floor 1 - (1.39) 1037
    26 - Full Restore - Victory Road Floor 1 - (1.39) 1038
    27 - Ultra Ball - Cerulean Cave Floor 1 - (1.72) 1039
    28 - N/A - N/A - N/A 1040
    29 - Escape Rope - Route 11 OW - (3.29) 1041
    2A - Hyper Potion - Route 12 OW - (3.30) 1042
    2B - N/A - N/A - N/A 1043
    2C - N/A - N/A - N/A 1044
    2D - N/A - N/A - N/A 1045
    2E - N/A - N/A - N/A 1046
    2F - PP Up - Celadon City OW (3.6) 1047
    30 - Max Ether - Vermilion City OW (3.5) 1048
    31 - Rare Candy - Cerulean City OW (3.3) 1049
    32 - Great Ball - Route 4 OW - (3.22) 1050
    33 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1051
    34 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1052
    35 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1053
    36 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1054
    37 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1055
    38 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1056
    39 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1057
    3A - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1058
    3B - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1059
    3C - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1060
    3D - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1061
    3E - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1062
    3F - Cheri Berry - Sevault Canyon OW - (3.64) 1063
    40 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1064
    41 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1065
    42 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1066
    43 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1067
    44 - Nest Ball - Rocket Warehouse - (1.114) 1068
    45 - Net Ball - Rocket Warehouse - (1.114) 1069
    46 - Potion - Underground Path - (1.31) 1070
    47 - Antidote - Underground Path - (1.31) 1071
    48 - Paralyze Heal - Underground Path - (1.31) 1072
    49 - Awakening - Underground Path - (1.31) 1073
    4A - Burn Heal - Underground Path - (1.31) 1074
    4B - Ice Heal - Underground Path - (1.31) 1075
    4C - Ether - Underground Path - (1.31) 1076
    4D - Potion - Underground Path - (1.34) 1077
    4E - Antidote - Underground Path - (1.34) 1078
    4F - Paralyze Heal - Underground Path - (1.34) 1079
    50 - Awakening - Underground Path - (1.34) 1080
    51 - Burn Heal - Underground Path - (1.34) 1081
    52 - Ice Heal - Underground Path - (1.34) 1082
    53 - Ether - Underground Path - (1.34) 1083
    54 - Tiny Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1084
    55 - Tiny Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1085
    56 - Tiny Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1086
    57 - Big Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1087
    58 - Big Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1088
    59 - Big Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1089
    5A - Razz Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1090
    5B - Bluk Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1091
    5C - Nanab Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1092
    5D - Wepear Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1093
    5E - Oran Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1094
    5F - Cheri Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1095
    60 - Chesto Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1096
    61 - Pecha Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1097
    62 - Rawst Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1098
    63 - Aspear Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1099
    64 - Persim Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1100
    65 - Pinap Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1101
    66 - Lum Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1102
    67 - Stardust - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1103
    68 - Stardust - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1104
    69 - Pearl - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1105
    6A - Pearl - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1106
    6B - Ultra Ball - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1107
    6C - Ultra Ball - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1108
    6D - Star Piece - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1109
    6E - Big Pearl - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1110
    6F - Rare Candy - Cape Brink OW - (3.47) 1111
    70 - Pokeball - Pewter City OW (3.2) 1112
    71 - Oran Berry - Route 3 - (3.21) 1113
    72 - Persim Berry - Route 4 OW - (3.22) 1114
    73 - Pecha Berry - Route 24 - (3.43) 1115
    74 - Oran Berry - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1116
    75 - Bluk Berry - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1117
    76 - Sitrus Bery - Route 6 OW - (3.24) 1118
    77 - Rare Candy - Route 6 OW - (3.24) 1119
    78 - Pecha Berry - S.S Anne Outside - (1.10) 1120
    79 - Cheri Berry - S.S Anne Outside - (1.10) 1121
    7A - Chesto Berry - S.S Anne Outside - (1.10) 1122
    7B - Rare Candy - Route 9 - (3.27) 1123
    7C - N/A - N/A - N/A  1124
    7D - Persim Berry - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1125
    7E - Cheri Berry - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1126
    7F - Rawst Berry - Route 8 OW - (3.26) 1127
    80 - Lum Berry - Route 8 OW - (3.26) 1128
    81 - Leppa Berry - Route 8 OW - (3.26) 1129
    82 - Rare Candy - Route 12 OW - (3.30) 1130
    83 - Leftovers - Route 12 OW - (3.30) 1131
    84 - Leftovers - Route 16 OW - (3.34) 1132
    85 - Max Revive - Fuchsia City OW - (3.7) 1133
    86 - Net Ball - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 4 - (1.45) 1134
    87 - Ultra Ball - Silph Co. Floor 2 - (1.48) 1135
    88 - Protein - Silph Co. Floor 3 - (1.49) 1136
    89 - Iron - Silph Co. Floor 4 - (1.50) 1137
    8A - PP Up - Silph Co. Floor 5 - (1.51) 1138
    8B - Carbos - Silph Co. Floor 6 - (1.52) 1139
    8C - Zinc - Silph Co. Floor 7 - (1.53) 1140
    8D - Nugget - Silph Co. Floor 8 - (1.54) 1141
    8E - Calcium - Silph Co. Floor 9 - (1.55) 1142
    8F - HP Up - Silph Co. Floor 10 - (1.56) 1143
    90 - Revive - Silph Co. Floor 11 - (1.57) 1144
    91 - Lum Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1145
    92 - Sitrus Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1146
    93 - Aspear Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1147
    94 - Leppa Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1148
    95 - Zinc - Route 14 - (3.32) 1149
    96 - Chesto Berry - Route 9 - (3.27) 1150
    97 - Nanab Berry - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1151
    98 - Wepear Berry - Route 7 OW (3.25) 1152
    99 - Star Dust - Route 20 - (3.38) 1153
    9A - Pearl - Route 21 (OW 1 out of 2) - (3.39) 1154
    9B - Max Elixir - Route 23 - (3.42) 1155
    9C - Razz Berry - Route 4 OW - (3.22) 1156
    9D - Pinap Berry - Route 14 - (3.32) 1157
    9E - Fire Stone - Mt. Ember OW Entrance - (1.97) 1158
    9F - Soothe Bell - Pokémon Tower Floor 7 - (1.94) 1159
    A0 - Sacred Ash - Navel Rock Roof - (2.37) 1160
    A1 - PP Max - Cape Brink OW - (3.47) 1161
    A2 - Ultra Ball - Mt. Ember OW Entrance - (1.97) 1162
    A3 - Nugget - Three Isle Path - (2.34) 1163
    A4 - PP Up - Three Island - (3.14) 1164
    A5 - Max Repel - Bond Bridge - (3.48) 1165
    A6 - Pearl - Bond Bridge - (3.48) 1166
    A7 - Stardust - Bond Bridge - (3.48) 1167
    A8 - Pearl - Four Island - (3.15) 1168
    A9 - Ultra Ball - Four Island - (3.15) 1169
    AA - Big Pearl - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1170
    AB - Razz Berry - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1171
    AC - Sitrus Berry - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1172
    AD - Bluk Berry - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1173
    AE - Nest Ball - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1174
    AF - Stardust - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1175
    B0 - Star Piece - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1176
    B1 - Stardust - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1177
    B2 - Star Piece - Outcast Island - (3.58) 1178
    B3 - Net Ball - Outcast Island - (3.58) 1179
    B4 - Ultra Ball - Green Path - (3.59) 1180
    B5 - Aspear Berry - Water Path OW - (3.60) 1181
    B6 - Oran Berry - Water Path OW - (3.60) 1182
    B7 - Pinap Berry - Water Path OW - (3.60) 1183
    B8 - Leppa Berry - Six Island - (3.18) 1184
    B9 - Big Pearl - Trainer Tower OW - (3.62) 1185
    BA - Pearl - Trainer Tower OW - (3.62) 1186
    BB - Nanab Berry - Trainer Tower OW - (3.62) 1187
    BC - Rawst Berry - Canyon Entrance - (3.63) 1188
    BD - Macho Brace - Viridian City's Gym - (5.1) 1189
    BE - Lava Cookie - S.S Anne Ship Dock - (1.4) 1190

     

     

    I haven't gotten around to using PKHex to unset those Heart Scales yet. I'm still wondering as to what specific in-game event would naturally trigger those flags. I've never used any of those one-time tutors. Maybe the Heart Scale flags are tied to them? No idea how, but this fellow here was able to find the Heart Scales: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l8IekFzPfWg. Maybe it's because they used those move tutors? My oh my, what a hassle! 😅

  4. On October 29, 2018 at 6:31 AM, cicciochiave said:

    Hi, for the Big Pearl at Trainer Tower you need to unset flag 1185

      Hide contents

    For those who don't know where it is: 

    2eo8sj6.png

    As for the Heart Scales, i can't find them... in every island of the Tanoby Ruins the Itemfinder didn't find anything, but they should be there ?

    Lol I don't know how and why but I was able to get the Trainer Tower Big Pearl after either I received the 300 hatch sticker or completed the National Dex, I can't be too sure what happened but I rechecked the area after I completed both achievements. I was also able to make the Memorial Pillar Big Pearl finally appear after I caught my legendary roamer (Suicune) at Route 2. I feel super sure about this because I kept rechecking the Memorial Pillar once per day and once I caught Suicune I rechecked the area on a whim and it finally spawned. It seems that certain hidden items only start to appear after doing particular things? 🤔

    Edit: I forgot to mention that that I was also missing the Memorial Pillar Big Pearl until VERY recently.

  5. Wow, you guys are doing awsome work. I don't suppose y'all know which flags activate which hidden items in FR/LG? Still, to this day I can't seem to spawn those Heart Scales in Tanoby Ruins or that Big Pearl in Trainer Tower. ?

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