Tbird

<p><p><p><p><p><p>Overall, that was an objection to a post you made since you were mentioning the + 2 versions and making it sound like Blaziken can SD and SE at the same turn. Slowbro does counter the SD versions, MUCH better than most other Pokemon.</p></p></p></p></p></p>

<p><p><p><p><p><p>You know what? Scald is being a little weak <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/unsure.png" alt=":/" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/unsure@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>

<p><p><p><p><p><p>Might as well run Surf on most waters or put enough investment to OHKO some fires with Scald. I did that with Jellicent, but vs Chandelure w/SR support. </p></p></p></p></p></p>

<p><p><p><p><p><p>It's really ridiculous when Fires beat Waters easily. Like, I knew it'd happen one day but not like this <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/sleep.png" alt="-_-" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/sleep@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>

<p><p><p><p><p><p>Oh, + 2 LO Flare Blitz vs 252 HP Conkeldurr: 132.9% - 156.5%</p></p></p></p></p></p>

<p><p><p><p><p><p>vs 252 HP/252 Def Conkeldurr: 104.3% - 122.7%</p></p></p></p></p></p>

<p><p><p><p><p><p>vs 252 HP/252 Def IMPISH Conkeldurr: 94.9% - 111.8%</p></p></p></p></p></p>

<p><p><p><p><p><p>No counter in that. Slowbro is. However, that's some HUGE recoil. Heh heh.</p></p></p></p></p></p>

<p><p><p><p><p><p>CB Adamant 252 Atk Conkeldurr Mach Punch vs Blaziken: 50.8% - 60.1%</p></p></p></p></p></p>

<p><p><p><p><p><p>With Iron Fist I'd imagine that's 20% of that increase, which would be like ~60% - 72%. Recoil might KO Blaze though <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/mellow.png" alt=":|" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/mellow@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>