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<p><p><p><p><p><p>(stupid 1000 character limit... stupid me having too much to say)</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>Overall, I think the best way to even use Charizard is to use his SpA. It's better hurting something than hurting nothing and wasting a turn setting up pointlessly. Besides, his special attack still hurts stuff. I'm even running SpecsSceptile all over again in BW instead of subseeding because everyone's too fast or hitting too hard or both. I'm still having trouble with getting the grip with his physical attack... because he isn't Feraligatr or something. 109 SpA is still good... that's nearly Empoleon's 111 >_></p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>Hmmm... wanna try Solar Power Charizard? In the sun, that's surely going to beast.</p></p></p></p></p></p>