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The following is an attempt to catalogue various elements of the Gen 7 Pokémon games that will be inaccessible should Pokémon Bank shutdown in the future. CFW non-withstanding of course.
Pokéball legality is not being touched on, given the vast resources which already exist for this element.
Evolutionary lines represented by a single Pokémon.
Edits to follow as I go.
Hidden Abilities:
Spoiler# Pokémon Form Method Hidden Ability 1 Bulbasaur Pokémon Bank Chlorophyll 4 Charmander Pokémon Bank Solar Power 7 Squirtle Pokémon Bank Rain Dish 13 Weedle Pokémon Bank Run Away 16 Pidgey Pokémon Bank Big Pecks 19 Rattata Pokémon Bank Hustle 27 Sandshrew Pokémon Bank Sand Rush 29 Nidoran♀ Pokémon Bank Hustle 32 Nidoran♂ Pokémon Bank Hustle 37 Vulpix Pokémon Bank Drought 43 Oddish Pokémon Bank Run Away 48 Venonat Pokémon Bank Run Away 50 Diglett Pokémon Bank Sand Force 52 Meowth Pokémon Bank Unnerve 69 Bellsprout Pokémon Bank Gluttony 74 Geodude Pokémon Bank Sand Veil 77 Ponyta Pokémon Bank Flame Body 83 Farfetch'd Pokémon Bank Defiant 84 Doduo Pokémon Bank Tangled Feet 88 Grimer Pokémon Bank Poison Touch 95 Onix Pokémon Bank Weak Armor 98 Krabby Pokémon Bank Sheer Force 100 Voltorb Pokémon Bank Aftermath 236 Tyrogue Pokémon Bank Vital Spirit 111 Rhyhorn Pokémon Bank Reckless 114 Tangela Pokémon Bank Regenerator 116 Horsea Pokémon Bank Damp 137 Porygon Pokémon Bank Analytic 138 Omanyte Pokémon Bank Weak Armor 140 Kabuto Pokémon Bank Weak Armor 142 Aerodactyl Pokémon Bank Unnerve 144 Articuno Pokémon Bank Snow Cloak 145 Zapdos Pokémon Bank Static 146 Moltres Pokémon Bank Flame Body 150 Mewtwo Pokémon Bank Unnerve 152 Chikorita Pokémon Bank Leaf Guard 155 Cyndaquil Pokémon Bank Flash Fire 158 Totodile Pokémon Bank Sheer Force 161 Sentret Pokémon Bank Frisk 175 Togepi Pokémon Bank Super Luck 298 Azurill Pokémon Bank Sap Sipper 187 Hoppip Pokémon Bank Infiltrator 191 Sunkern Pokémon Bank Early Bird 193 Yanma Pokémon Bank Frisk 194 Wooper Pokémon Bank Unaware 360 Wynaut Pokémon Bank Telepathy 203 Girafarig Pokémon Bank Sap Sipper 207 Gligar Pokémon Bank Immunity 211 Qwilfish Pokémon Bank Intimidate 213 Shuckle Pokémon Bank Contrary 216 Teddiursa Pokémon Bank Honey Gather 218 Slugma Pokémon Bank Weak Armor 220 Swinub Pokémon Bank Thick Fat 231 Phanpy Pokémon Bank Sand Veil 234 Stantler Pokémon Bank Sap Sipper 243 Raikou Pokémon Bank Inner Focus 244 Entei Pokémon Bank Inner Focus 245 Suicune Pokémon Bank Inner Focus 249 Lugia Pokémon Bank Multiscale 250 Ho-Oh Pokémon Bank Regenerator 252 Treecko Pokémon Bank Unburden 255 Torchic Pokémon Bank Speed Boost 258 Mudkip Pokémon Bank Damp 261 Poochyena Pokémon Bank Rattled 263 Zigzagoon Pokémon Bank Quick Feet 265 Wurmple Pokémon Bank Run Away 270 Lotad Pokémon Bank Own Tempo 273 Seedot Pokémon Bank Pickpocket 276 Taillow Pokémon Bank Scrappy 280 Ralts Pokémon Bank Telepathy 285 Shroomish Pokémon Bank Quick Feet 290 Nincada Pokémon Bank Run Away 293 Whismur Pokémon Bank Rattled 300 Skitty Pokémon Bank Wonder Skin 304 Aron Pokémon Bank Heavy Metal 307 Meditite Pokémon Bank Telepathy 311 Plusle Pokémon Bank Lightning Rod 312 Minun Pokémon Bank Volt Absorb 313 Volbeat Pokémon Bank Prankster 314 Illumise Pokémon Bank Prankster 406 Budew Pokémon Bank Leaf Guard 316 Gulpin Pokémon Bank Gluttony 322 Numel Pokémon Bank Own Tempo 325 Spoink Pokémon Bank Gluttony 331 Cacnea Pokémon Bank Water Absorb 333 Swablu Pokémon Bank Cloud Nine 335 Zangoose Pokémon Bank Toxic Boost 336 Seviper Pokémon Bank Infiltrator 345 Lileep Pokémon Bank Storm Drain 347 Anorith Pokémon Bank Swift Swim 355 Duskull Pokémon Bank Frisk 363 Spheal Pokémon Bank Oblivious 377 Regirock Pokémon Bank Sturdy 378 Regice Pokémon Bank Ice Body 379 Registeel Pokémon Bank Light Metal 387 Turtwig Pokémon Bank Shell Armor 390 Chimchar Pokémon Bank Iron Fist 393 Piplup Pokémon Bank Defiant 396 Starly Pokémon Bank Reckless 399 Bidoof Pokémon Bank Moody 401 Kricketot Pokémon Bank Run Away 403 Shinx Pokémon Bank Guts 408 Cranidos Pokémon Bank Sheer Force 410 Shieldon Pokémon Bank Soundproof 412 Burmy Pokémon Bank Overcoat 415 Combee Pokémon Bank Hustle 417 Pachirisu Pokémon Bank Volt Absorb 418 Buizel Pokémon Bank Water Veil 422 Shellos West Sea Pokémon Bank Sand Force 431 Glameow Pokémon Bank Keen Eye 434 Stunky Pokémon Bank Keen Eye 436 Bronzor Pokémon Bank Heavy Metal 441 Chatot Pokémon Bank Big Pecks 442 Spiritomb Pokémon Bank Infiltrator 449 Hippopotas Pokémon Bank Sand Force 451 Skorupi Pokémon Bank Keen Eye 453 Croagunk Pokémon Bank Poison Touch 459 Snover Pokémon Bank Soundproof 483 Dialga Pokémon Bank Telepathy 484 Palkia Pokémon Bank Telepathy 487 Giratina Altered Forme Pokémon Bank Telepathy 495 Snivy Pokémon Bank Contrary 498 Tepig Pokémon Bank Thick Fat 501 Oshawott Pokémon Bank Shell Armor 504 Patrat Pokémon Bank Analytic 509 Purrloin Pokémon Bank Prankster 511 Pansage Pokémon Bank Overgrow 513 Pansear Pokémon Bank Blaze 515 Panpour Pokémon Bank Torrent 517 Munna Pokémon Bank Telepathy 519 Pidove Pokémon Bank Rivalry 522 Blitzle Pokémon Bank Sap Sipper 527 Woobat Pokémon Bank Simple 529 Drilbur Pokémon Bank Mold Breaker 531 Audino Pokémon Bank Klutz 532 Timburr Pokémon Bank Iron Fist 535 Tympole Pokémon Bank Water Absorb 538 Throh Pokémon Bank Mold Breaker 539 Sawk Pokémon Bank Mold Breaker 540 Sewaddle Pokémon Bank Overcoat 543 Venipede Pokémon Bank Speed Boost 550 Basculin Blue-Striped Form Pokémon Bank Mold Breaker 554 Darumaka Pokémon Bank Inner Focus 556 Maractus Pokémon Bank Storm Drain 557 Dwebble Pokémon Bank Weak Armor 561 Sigilyph Pokémon Bank Tinted Lens 564 Tirtouga Pokémon Bank Swift Swim 574 Gothita Pokémon Bank Shadow Tag 577 Solosis Pokémon Bank Regenerator 580 Ducklett Pokémon Bank Hydration 585 Deerling Spring Form Pokémon Bank Serene Grace 585 Deerling Summer Form Pokémon Bank Serene Grace 585 Deerling Autumn Form Pokémon Bank Serene Grace 585 Deerling Winter Form Pokémon Bank Serene Grace 588 Karrablast Pokémon Bank No Guard 590 Foongus Pokémon Bank Regenerator 595 Joltik Pokémon Bank Swarm 598 Ferrothorn Pokémon Bank Anticipation 599 Klink Pokémon Bank Clear Body 607 Litwick Pokémon Bank Infiltrator 610 Axew Pokémon Bank Unnerve 613 Cubchoo Pokémon Bank Rattled 616 Shelmet Pokémon Bank Overcoat 618 Stunfisk Pokémon Bank Sand Veil 626 Bouffalant Pokémon Bank Soundproof 631 Heatmor Pokémon Bank White Smoke 632 Durant Pokémon Bank Truant 641 Tornadus Incarnate Forme Pokémon Bank Defiant 642 Thundurus Incarnate Forme Pokémon Bank Defiant 645 Landorus Incarnate Forme Pokémon Bank Sheer Force 650 Chespin Pokémon Bank Bulletproof 653 Fennekin Pokémon Bank Magician 656 Froakie Pokémon Bank Protean 659 Bunnelby Pokémon Bank Huge Power 664 Scatterbug Pokémon Bank Friend Guard 669 Flabébé Blue Flower Pokémon Bank Symbiosis 672 Skiddo Pokémon Bank Grass Pelt 677 Espurr Pokémon Bank Own Tempo 682 Spritzee Pokémon Bank Aroma Veil 684 Swirlix Pokémon Bank Unburden 688 Binacle Pokémon Bank Pickpocket 694 Helioptile Pokémon Bank Solar Power 696 Tyrunt Pokémon Bank Sturdy 698 Amaura Pokémon Bank Snow Warning 710 Pumpkaboo Average Size Pokémon Bank Insomnia 710 Pumpkaboo Super Size Pokémon Bank Insomnia 712 Bergmite Pokémon Bank Sturdy Events # Pokémon Form Method Hidden Ability 724 Decidueye Event Long Reach 727 Incineroar Event Intimidate 730 Primarina Event Liquid Voice 744 Rockruff Own Tempo Event Own Tempo 765 Oranguru Event Symbiosis 766 Passimian Event Defiant Egg Moves:
SpoilerPokémon Move Method Charmander Air Cutter Gen 4 Charizard Move Tutor Munchlax Self-Destruct Gen 4 Pokéwalker Winner's Path Snorlax Power-Up Punch Gen 6 TM98 for Munchlax Dratini Extreme Speed Gen 4 In game trade Vanillite Natural Gift Gen 4 TM on a Mineral male parent Volbeat Dizzy Punch + Seismic Toss Simultaneously requires old gen parent Volbeat Lunge + Seismic Toss Simultaneously requires old gen parent Shinies:
SpoilerPokémon Method Mew Pokémon Bank Celebi Pokémon Bank Jirachi Pokémon Bank Deoxys Pokémon Bank Manaphy Pokémon Bank Darkrai Pokémon Bank Shaymin Pokémon Bank Arceus Pokémon Bank Genesect Pokémon Bank Zygarde Event Diancie Pokémon Bank Tapu Koko Event Tapu Lele Event Tapu Bulu Event Tapu Fini Event Solgaleo Event Lunala Event Necrozma Event Unown Pokémon Bank (No egg) Event Exclusives:
Spoiler# Pokémon Form Accessible(?) Method 25 Pikachu 6 Caps (Partner still accessible with QR code) Events 151 Mew My Pokémon Ranch 251 Celebi VC Crystal 385 Jirachi Wishmaker/Channel 386 Deoxys ORAS 489 Phione Breed Manaphy 490 Manaphy Ranger 491 Darkrai Gen4 Event Key Item 492 Shaymin Gen4 Event Key Item 493 Arceus Events 494 Victini Gen5 Event Key Item 647 Keldeo Events 648 Meloetta Events 649 Genesect Events 658 Greninja Ash-Greninja Sun and Moon Special Demo 719 Diancie Events 720 Hoopa Events 721 Volcanion Events 744 Rockruff Own Tempo Events 802 Marshadow Events 807 Zeraora Events Previous Generation Transfer Exclusives:
Spoiler# Pokémon Form 19 Rattata Kantonian 27 Sandshrew Kantonian 29 Nidoran♀ 37 Vulpix Kantonian 43 Oddish 48 Venonat 50 Diglett Kantonian 52 Meowth Kantonian 74 Geodude Kantonian 77 Ponyta 83 Farfetch'd 84 Doduo 88 Grimer Kantonian 98 Krabby 237 Hitmontop 109 Koffing 114 Tangela 161 Sentret 187 Hoppip 191 Sunkern 201 Unown 28 202 Wobbuffet 203 Girafarig 207 Gligar 211 Qwilfish 213 Shuckle 216 Teddiursa 231 Phanpy 234 Stantler 261 Poochyena 263 Zigzagoon 265 Wurmple 285 Shroomish 290 Nincada 293 Whismur 300 Skitty 311 Plusle 312 Minun 314 Illumise 316 Gulpin 322 Numel 331 Cacnea 335 Zangoose 336 Seviper 337 Lunatone 338 Solrock 355 Duskull 358 Chimecho 399 Bidoof 401 Kricketot 412 Burmy 415 Combee 417 Pachirisu 420 Cherubi 431 Glameow 434 Stunky 436 Bronzor 441 Chatot 442 Spiritomb 453 Croagunk 455 Carnivine 504 Patrat 509 Purrloin 511 Pansage 513 Pansear 515 Panpour 517 Munna 519 Pidove 522 Blitzle 527 Woobat 529 Drilbur 535 Tympole 538 Throh 539 Sawk 554 Darumaka 556 Maractus 562 Yamask 585 Deerling Spring Form 585 Deerling Summer Form 585 Deerling Autumn Form 585 Deerling Winter Form 588 Karrablast 590 Foongus 595 Joltik 598 Ferrothorn 613 Cubchoo 615 Cryogonal 616 Shelmet 626 Bouffalant 631 Heatmor 632 Durant 659 Bunnelby 672 Skiddo 677 Espurr 682 Spritzee 684 Swirlix 710 Pumpkaboo Average Size 710 Pumpkaboo Super Size 710 Pumpkaboo Small Size 710 Pumpkaboo Large Size 712 Bergmite - 1
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The following is an attempt to catalogue various elements of the Gen 6 Pokémon games that will be inaccessible should Pokémon Bank shutdown in the future. CFW non-withstanding of course.
Pokéball legality is not being touched on, given the vast resources which already exist for this element.
For Hidden Abilities; added notes where Gen 5 has continued accessibility without Dream World where possible, and also Gen 7 alternative methods. Evolutionary lines represented by a single Pokémon.
Hidden Abilities requiring Gen 5 or Events:
Spoiler# Pokémon Form Method Hidden Ability Gen5 Accessible Gen7 Alternative 115 Kangaskhan Poké Transporter Inner Focus SOS Battle 138 Omanyte Poké Transporter Weak Armor 140 Kabuto Poké Transporter Weak Armor 142 Aerodactyl Poké Transporter Unnerve 446 Munchlax Poké Transporter Gluttony Curtis's/Yancy's trade SOS Battle 161 Sentret Poké Transporter Frisk 211 Qwilfish Poké Transporter Intimidate 252 Treecko Poké Transporter Unburden 258 Mudkip Poké Transporter Damp 345 Lileep Poké Transporter Storm Drain 347 Anorith Poké Transporter Swift Swim 387 Turtwig Poké Transporter Shell Armor 390 Chimchar Poké Transporter Iron Fist 393 Piplup Poké Transporter Defiant 408 Cranidos Poké Transporter Sheer Force Curtis's trade 410 Shieldon Poké Transporter Soundproof Yancy's trade 412 Burmy Poké Transporter Overcoat 449 Hippopotas Poké Transporter Sand Force 504 Patrat Poké Transporter Analytic Hidden Grotto 550 Basculin Red-Striped Form Poké Transporter Mold Breaker SOS Battle 550 Basculin Blue-Striped Form Poké Transporter Mold Breaker 564 Tirtouga Poké Transporter Swift Swim 585 Deerling Summer Form Poké Transporter Serene Grace Route 6 Scientist 585 Deerling Autumn Form Poké Transporter Serene Grace Route 6 Scientist 585 Deerling Winter Form Poké Transporter Serene Grace Route 6 Scientist 588 Karrablast Poké Transporter No Guard 616 Shelmet Poké Transporter Overcoat 249 Lugia Dream Radar Multiscale Dream Radar 250 Ho-Oh Dream Radar Regenerator Dream Radar 641 Tornadus Incarnate Forme Dream Radar Defiant Dream Radar 642 Thundurus Incarnate Forme Dream Radar Defiant Dream Radar 645 Landorus Incarnate Forme Dream Radar Sheer Force Dream Radar 483 Dialga Dream Radar (also Event) Telepathy Dream Radar 484 Palkia Dream Radar (also Event) Telepathy Dream Radar 487 Giratina Altered Forme Dream Radar (also Event) Telepathy Dream Radar Events (primarily) # Pokémon Form Method Hidden Ability Gen5 Accessible Gen7 Method 144 Articuno Event Snow Cloak 145 Zapdos Event Static 146 Moltres Event Flame Body 150 Mewtwo Event, Poké Transporter Unnerve 154 Meganium Event Leaf Guard 157 Typhlosion Event Flash Fire 160 Feraligatr Event Sheer Force 255 Torchic Event, Poké Transporter Speed Boost 377 Regirock Event Sturdy 378 Regice Event Ice Body 379 Registeel Event Light Metal 497 Serperior Event Contrary 500 Emboar Event Reckless 503 Samurott Event Shell Armor 696 Tyrunt Event Sturdy - 698 Amaura Event Snow Warning - 710 Pumpkaboo Super Size Event Insomnia - Hidden Abilities which generally require Friend Safari:
Spoiler# Pokémon Form Method Hidden Ability Gen5 Accessible Gen7 Alternative 2 Ivysaur Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Chlorophyll 5 Charmeleon Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Solar Power 8 Wartortle Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Rain Dish 12 Butterfree Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Tinted Lens Hidden Grotto SOS Battle 21 Spearow Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Sniper SOS Battle 83 Farfetch'd Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Defiant 91 Cloyster Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Overcoat SOS Battle 105 Marowak Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Battle Armor SOS Battle 131 Lapras Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Hydration SOS Battle 148 Dragonair Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Marvel Scale Hidden Grotto SOS Battle 163 Hoothoot Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Tinted Lens Dream Radar SOS Battle 165 Ledyba Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Rattled SOS Battle 175 Togepi Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Super Luck B2W2Trade + Dream Radar 194 Wooper Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Unaware 206 Dunsparce Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Rattled Hidden Grotto SOS Battle 209 Snubbull Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Rattled Hidden Grotto SOS Battle 213 Shuckle Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Contrary Dream Radar 215 Sneasel Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Pickpocket Hidden Grotto SOS Battle 216 Teddiursa Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Honey Gather B2W2Trade 221 Piloswine Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Thick Fat 235 Smeargle Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Moody SOS Battle 375 Metang Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Light Metal Hidden Grotto + Dream Radar SOS Battle 400 Bibarel Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Moody Hidden Grotto 415 Combee Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Hustle Hidden Grotto 417 Pachirisu Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Volt Absorb Hidden Grotto 426 Drifblim Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Flare Boost Hidden Grotto + Dream Radar SOS Battle 442 Spiritomb Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Infiltrator B2W2Trade + Dream Radar 447 Riolu Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Prankster Dream Radar SOS Battle 454 Toxicroak Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Poison Touch 459 Snover Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Soundproof 510 Liepard Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Prankster Hidden Grotto 511 Pansage Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Overgrow 513 Pansear Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Blaze 515 Panpour Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Torrent 527 Woobat Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Simple Hidden Grotto 536PalpitoadFriend Safari, Poké TransporterWater Absorb544 Whirlipede Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Speed Boost 561 Sigilyph Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Tinted Lens Dream Radar 578 Duosion Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Regenerator 581 Swanna Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Hydration 587 Emolga Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Motor Drive SOS Battle 597 Ferroseed Friend Safari EVOLVE - 608 Lampent Friend Safari Infiltrator - 618 Stunfisk Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Sand Veil 619 Mienfoo Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Reckless Hidden Grotto SOS Battle 623 Golurk Friend Safari, Poké Transporter No Guard SOS Battle 624 Pawniard Friend Safari, Poké Transporter Pressure SOS Battle 651 Quilladin Friend Safari Bulletproof - 654 Braixen Friend Safari Magician - 657 Frogadier Friend Safari Protean - 660 Diggersby Friend Safari Huge Power - 662 Fletchinder Friend Safari Gale Wings - SOS Battle 666 Vivillon 18 Forms Friend Safari Friend Guard - 668 Pyroar Friend Safari Moxie - SOS Battle 670 Floette Red Flower Friend Safari Symbiosis - SOS Battle 670 Floette Yellow Flower Friend Safari Symbiosis - SOS Battle 670 Floette Blue Flower Friend Safari Symbiosis - 673 Gogoat Friend Safari Grass Pelt - 674 Pancham Friend Safari Scrappy - SOS Battle 677 Espurr Friend Safari Own Tempo - 682 Spritzee Friend Safari Aroma Veil - 684 Swirlix Friend Safari Unburden - 686 Inkay Friend Safari Infiltrator - SOS Battle 689 Barbaracle Friend Safari Pickpocket - 694 Helioptile Friend Safari Solar Power - 701 Hawlucha Friend Safari Mold Breaker - SOS Battle 702 Dedenne Friend Safari Plus - SOS Battle 705 Sliggoo Friend Safari Gooey - SOS Battle 710 Pumpkaboo Average Size Friend Safari Insomnia - 712 Bergmite Friend Safari Sturdy - 714 Noibat Friend Safari Telepathy - SOS Battle Egg Moves:
SpoilerPokémon Move Method Charmander Air Cutter Gen 4 Charizard Move Tutor Shellder Avalanche Gen 4 Cloyster TM 72 Scyther Defog Gen 4 HM05 DPt Munchlax Self-Destruct Gen 4 Pokéwalker Winner's Path Dratini Extreme Speed Gen 4 In game trade Drifloon Defog Gen 4 HM05 DPt Vanillite Natural Gift Gen 4 TM on a Mineral male parent Volbeat Dizzy Punch + Seismic Toss Simultaneously requires old gen parent Shinies:
SpoilerPokémon Method Articuno Poké Transporter Zapdos Poké Transporter Moltres Poké Transporter Mewtwo Event, Poké Transporter Mew Poké Transporter Kyogre Poké Transporter Groudon Poké Transporter Rayquaza Event, Poké Transporter Jirachi Event, Poké Transporter Deoxys Poké Transporter Manaphy Poké Transporter Darkrai Poké Transporter Shaymin Poké Transporter Arceus Event Genesect Poké Transporter Xerneas Event Yveltal Event Diancie Event Event Exclusives:
Spoiler# Pokémon Form Accessible(?) Method 151 Mew My Pokémon Ranch 251 Celebi Events 385 Jirachi Wishmaker/Channel 489 Phione Breed Manaphy 490 Manaphy Ranger 491 Darkrai Gen4 Event Key Item 492 Shaymin Gen4 Event Key Item 493 Arceus Events 494 Victini Gen5 Event Key Item 647 Keldeo Events 648 Meloetta Events 649 Genesect Events 666 Vivillon Fancy Events 666 Vivillon Poké Ball Events 719 Diancie Events 720 Hoopa Events 721 Volcanion Events - 1
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Posting to have a record of some GSC egg investigations I've made playing recently. Perhaps this is already known, but I'd not found the info myself.
Breeding for shinies in Gen 2, you can use Stadium 2 to detect shinies by the Hue of the egg (details as noted on bluemoonfalls).
Using Fëanen's document for Hue calculation (link), I noticed a few Pokémon that would have undetectable shiny egg hues for my Gold TID/OT combination. My plan to trade eggs from Gold to Crystal to change the egg.
- Turns out eggs have some hidden OT data. Though showing TID of hatch game after a trade, while still an egg Stadium 2 imposed limits on non-OT Pokémon withdrawal until 150 Pokédex. This also applies to eggs
- As the hidden egg generation TID is set for eggs, no trading will get around shiny Hue limitations. Hue set on generation, shiny visibility trick for a given Pokémon only on a favourable save file OT/TID.
- Crystal only egg moves are saved to the egg, so new egg moves are retained for Crystal eggs hatched in Gold/Silver. Probably not many care, but my Gold TID team benefits a few new egg moves.
Hopefully this post is of some use to anyone reading this. Thanks!
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On 11/8/2021 at 9:55 PM, DrGonzo said:
My IDs are (40117, 50117, 60117 - Gold, Silver, Crystal).
Hi there, I noticed your post so here are your mystery gift results for those trainer IDs (interesting pattern in them!)
SpoilerTRAINER ID 40117 50117 60117 BERRY no no no PRZCUREBERRY often often often MINT BERRY no no no ICE BERRY often often often BURNT BERRY often often often PSNCUREBERRY no no no GUARD SPEC no no no X DEFENSE often often often X ATTACK often often often BITTER BERRY no no no DIRE HIT no often no X SPECIAL often no often X ACCURACY no often often EON MAIL often no no MORPH MAIL often no no MUSIC MAIL no often often MIRACLEBERRY no no no GOLD BERRY sometimes sometimes sometimes REVIVE sometimes no sometimes GREAT BALL no sometimes no SUPER REPEL sometimes no no MAX REPEL no sometimes sometimes ELIXIR no sometimes sometimes ETHER sometimes no no WATER STONE no no no FIRE STONE rare no no LEAF STONE no no no THUNDERSTONE no no no MAX ETHER no rare no MAX ELIXIR no no no MAX REVIVE no no rare SCOPE LENS no no no HP UP no no no PP UP rare rare rare JIGGLYPUFF DOLL no no no POLIWAG DOLL often often often DIGLETT DOLL often no often STARYU DOLL no often no MAGIKARP DOLL often no no ODDISH DOLL no often often GENGAR DOLL no often often SHELLDER DOLL often no no GRIMER DOLL no often no VOLTORB DOLL often no often CLEFAIRY POSTER no often often JIGGLYPUFF POSTER often no no SUPER NES often often no WEEDLE DOLL no no often GEODUDE DOLL often no no MACHOP DOLL no often often MAGNAPLANT no no no TROPICPLANT sometimes sometimes sometimes NES no no no NINTENDO 64 sometimes sometimes sometimes BULBASAUR DOLL sometimes sometimes sometimes SQUIRTLE DOLL no no no PINK BED no no no POLKADOT BED sometimes sometimes sometimes RED CARPET no no no BLUE CARPET no no no YELLOW CARPET no no no GREEN CARPET rare no no JUMBOPLANT no rare no VIRTUAL BOY no no rare BIG ONIX DOLL no no no PIKACHU POSTER no no no BIG LAPRAS DOLL no no no SURF PIKACHU DOLL rare rare rare Reading the latest discussions above, I guess none of us have thus far managed to find a single instance where Stadium 2 gives one of the rarer items that does not match the Trainer ID from this tool.
I guess I will need to consider getting a second Gameboy Colour if I ever intend to get all the items on my Gold save for the completionist spirit in me. And keep reset some second Gen 2 game for different trainer IDs. Oh well!
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Hi MagnusHexem. I've ran the code on those 3 Trainer IDs. Forgive the format as I struggled in my attempts to paste this into a table.
SpoilerTRAINER ID 64818 41962 37613 BERRY often no no PRZCUREBERRY no often often MINT BERRY often often no ICE BERRY no no often BURNT BERRY no no often PSNCUREBERRY often often no GUARD SPEC often often no X DEFENSE no no often X ATTACK often no no BITTER BERRY no often often DIRE HIT no often often X SPECIAL often no no X ACCURACY no no no EON MAIL often often often MORPH MAIL often no no MUSIC MAIL no often often MIRACLEBERRY no no no GOLD BERRY sometimes sometimes sometimes REVIVE no no sometimes GREAT BALL sometimes sometimes no SUPER REPEL sometimes no no MAX REPEL no sometimes sometimes ELIXIR no sometimes sometimes ETHER sometimes no no WATER STONE no no no FIRE STONE no no rare LEAF STONE no rare no THUNDERSTONE no no no MAX ETHER no no no MAX ELIXIR no no no MAX REVIVE no no no SCOPE LENS rare no no HP UP no no no PP UP rare rare rare JIGGLYPUFF DOLL no no no POLIWAG DOLL often often often DIGLETT DOLL no no often STARYU DOLL often often no MAGIKARP DOLL often no no ODDISH DOLL no often often GENGAR DOLL no often often SHELLDER DOLL often no no GRIMER DOLL no often often VOLTORB DOLL often no no CLEFAIRY POSTER no often no JIGGLYPUFF POSTER often no often SUPER NES no no often WEEDLE DOLL often often no GEODUDE DOLL no often often MACHOP DOLL often no no MAGNAPLANT sometimes no no TROPICPLANT no sometimes sometimes NES sometimes sometimes no NINTENDO 64 no no sometimes BULBASAUR DOLL no no sometimes SQUIRTLE DOLL sometimes sometimes no PINK BED sometimes sometimes no POLKADOT BED no no sometimes RED CARPET no no no BLUE CARPET no no no YELLOW CARPET no no no GREEN CARPET rare no no JUMBOPLANT no no no VIRTUAL BOY no no no BIG ONIX DOLL no rare rare PIKACHU POSTER no no no BIG LAPRAS DOLL rare no no SURF PIKACHU DOLL no rare rare EDIT: At a glance of your post, maybe those all add up? That will be good to know but sad. It may be the only way to get all the gifts is IR between two GameBoy Colours.....
Funny that both your GOLD and SILVER can indeed send the PINK BED
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I've received some rares. Indeed so far all the rares I've got match those of my Trainer ID, whether co-incidence or not....
- GOLD (17817): MAX ETHER, BLUE CARPET and SURF PIKACHU DOLL (Very Rare even)
- CRYSTAL(57942): No rares for me yet, However, Carrie received a VIRTUAL BOY about a week ago. Crystal can send those out according to the tool, so it may well appear the rares are ID based?
- Carrie also reminds me she received BLUE CARPET before, "am I jealous"? That would match that the giving and receiving between Stadium 2 for rares at least might be limited by ID. I hope not....
Can also add my support for the likelihood that receiving often/rare/etc it is entirely random. After Carrie got that VIRTUAL BOY the few days after were nothing buy X Items and Berries, until today as it happens when GOLD got the MAX ETHER. I doubt that effects odds. I'd still expect there may be something going on to get the TENTACOOL DOLL and other STADIUM 2 only items. Maybe you need everything else first? Maybe you need to have beaten all of STADIUM 2?
MagnusHexem, I feel your pain looking for MIRACLEBERRY. I'd also like a SCOPE LENS as that might also be mystery gift locked. I've never even got a GOLD BERRY from STADIUM 2, but I at least got one from the Bug Catching Contest. Gradually bringing my team through the STADIUM 2 battles and always think that berry wouldn't hurt.
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Found your post searching for answers to GEN 2 MYSTERY GIFT. I've been doing mystery gift for just under a year now, wondering if I could get every gift on GOLD using STADIUM 2 alone as I've only got 1 GameBoy Colour.
I compiled and ran the mystery gift tool you referenced using my GOLD trainer ID (17817).
I have been getting several gifts which do not align with those my trainer ID can send out. For the first few months I received MUSIC MAIL very often, despite that being a "no" using that tool. I've also received GOLD BERRY, and several Dolls that my ID does not send to other GBC games according to that tool. Of the 11 Dolls I've received thus far, 6 are possible on my ID according to the tool, 5 are not.
I can only assume the gifts from Stadium 2 are not limited to trainer ID in the same way, though there may be some correlation in probability?
Some anecdotal thoughts to add. Only within the past 3 weeks or so I have a CRYSTAL cartridge which I've started playing. So far that game has received 4 dolls (1 of which GOLD already had). It may be that when one of the games gets a rare gift, the other cartridge tends to get a better item too. I've not nearly enough evidence to back that up, but figured I'd mention my feelings so far based on your comments.
Finally, the STADIUM 2 character does mention the TENTACOOL DOLL very very often! Thus far I've not received any of the STADIUM 2 exclusive items on either GOLD or CRYSTAL cartridges (PIKACHU BED, UNOWN DOLL, TENTACOOL DOLL). I've no idea if any special triggers are involved with those....
I'd love to know if you have since found any documentation on how this all works?
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