Mark_Eire

The following is an attempt to catalogue various elements of the Gen 7 Pokémon games that will be inaccessible should Pokémon Bank shutdown in the future. CFW non-withstanding of course. Pokéball legality is not being touched on, given the vast resources which already exist for this element. Evolutionary lines represented by a single Pokémon. Edits to follow as I go. Hidden Abilities: Egg Moves: Shinies: Event Exclusives: Previous Generation Transfer Exclusives:

The following is an attempt to catalogue various elements of the Gen 6 Pokémon games that will be inaccessible should Pokémon Bank shutdown in the future. CFW non-withstanding of course. Pokéball legality is not being touched on, given the vast resources which already exist for this element. For Hidden Abilities; added notes where Gen 5 has continued accessibility without Dream World where possible, and also Gen 7 alternative methods. Evolutionary lines represented by a single Pokémon. Hidden Abilities requiring Gen 5 or Events: Hidden Abilities which generally require Friend Safari: Egg Moves: Shinies: Event Exclusives:

Posting to have a record of some GSC egg investigations I've made playing recently. Perhaps this is already known, but I'd not found the info myself. Breeding for shinies in Gen 2, you can use Stadium 2 to detect shinies by the Hue of the egg (details as noted on bluemoonfalls). Using Fëanen's document for Hue calculation (link), I noticed a few Pokémon that would have undetectable shiny egg hues for my Gold TID/OT combination. My plan to trade eggs from Gold to Crystal to change the egg. Turns out eggs have some hidden OT data. Though showing TID of hatch game after a trade, while still an egg Stadium 2 imposed limits on non-OT Pokémon withdrawal until 150 Pokédex. This also applies to eggs As the hidden egg generation TID is set for eggs, no trading will get around shiny Hue limitations. Hue set on generation, shiny visibility trick for a given Pokémon only on a favourable save file OT/TID. Crystal only egg moves are saved to the egg, so new egg moves are retained for Crystal eggs hatched in Gold/Silver. Probably not many care, but my Gold TID team benefits a few new egg moves. Hopefully this post is of some use to anyone reading this. Thanks!

Hi there, I noticed your post so here are your mystery gift results for those trainer IDs (interesting pattern in them!) Reading the latest discussions above, I guess none of us have thus far managed to find a single instance where Stadium 2 gives one of the rarer items that does not match the Trainer ID from this tool. I guess I will need to consider getting a second Gameboy Colour if I ever intend to get all the items on my Gold save for the completionist spirit in me. And keep reset some second Gen 2 game for different trainer IDs. Oh well!

Hi MagnusHexem. I've ran the code on those 3 Trainer IDs. Forgive the format as I struggled in my attempts to paste this into a table. EDIT: At a glance of your post, maybe those all add up? That will be good to know but sad. It may be the only way to get all the gifts is IR between two GameBoy Colours..... Funny that both your GOLD and SILVER can indeed send the PINK BED

I've received some rares. Indeed so far all the rares I've got match those of my Trainer ID, whether co-incidence or not.... GOLD (17817): MAX ETHER, BLUE CARPET and SURF PIKACHU DOLL (Very Rare even) CRYSTAL(57942): No rares for me yet, However, Carrie received a VIRTUAL BOY about a week ago. Crystal can send those out according to the tool, so it may well appear the rares are ID based? Carrie also reminds me she received BLUE CARPET before, "am I jealous"? That would match that the giving and receiving between Stadium 2 for rares at least might be limited by ID. I hope not.... Can also add my support for the likelihood that receiving often/rare/etc it is entirely random. After Carrie got that VIRTUAL BOY the few days after were nothing buy X Items and Berries, until today as it happens when GOLD got the MAX ETHER. I doubt that effects odds. I'd still expect there may be something going on to get the TENTACOOL DOLL and other STADIUM 2 only items. Maybe you need everything else first? Maybe you need to have beaten all of STADIUM 2? MagnusHexem, I feel your pain looking for MIRACLEBERRY. I'd also like a SCOPE LENS as that might also be mystery gift locked. I've never even got a GOLD BERRY from STADIUM 2, but I at least got one from the Bug Catching Contest. Gradually bringing my team through the STADIUM 2 battles and always think that berry wouldn't hurt.

Found your post searching for answers to GEN 2 MYSTERY GIFT. I've been doing mystery gift for just under a year now, wondering if I could get every gift on GOLD using STADIUM 2 alone as I've only got 1 GameBoy Colour. I compiled and ran the mystery gift tool you referenced using my GOLD trainer ID (17817). I have been getting several gifts which do not align with those my trainer ID can send out. For the first few months I received MUSIC MAIL very often, despite that being a "no" using that tool. I've also received GOLD BERRY, and several Dolls that my ID does not send to other GBC games according to that tool. Of the 11 Dolls I've received thus far, 6 are possible on my ID according to the tool, 5 are not. I can only assume the gifts from Stadium 2 are not limited to trainer ID in the same way, though there may be some correlation in probability? Some anecdotal thoughts to add. Only within the past 3 weeks or so I have a CRYSTAL cartridge which I've started playing. So far that game has received 4 dolls (1 of which GOLD already had). It may be that when one of the games gets a rare gift, the other cartridge tends to get a better item too. I've not nearly enough evidence to back that up, but figured I'd mention my feelings so far based on your comments. Finally, the STADIUM 2 character does mention the TENTACOOL DOLL very very often! Thus far I've not received any of the STADIUM 2 exclusive items on either GOLD or CRYSTAL cartridges (PIKACHU BED, UNOWN DOLL, TENTACOOL DOLL). I've no idea if any special triggers are involved with those.... I'd love to know if you have since found any documentation on how this all works?