PKHex Missing Legality Checks for Method_H1-PID=0000000X

[Luxrayboy789]

 

 

 

Hi could you please add the legality checks/flags for this PID=0000000F & PID=0000000A please? I believe this is the chart of the frames and seeds, so they're obtainable legaly. I only have proof of those 2 PID, but i think all natures are obtaina ble. I haven't tried calm nature, but i know you can get access to the game as early as the frame 340 so you still have a gap to get to the frame 343 with the delay of 18. All the seeds and advances are for breeding in FR/LG || S/R 3 Gen.

 

This chart is for the breeding part of those PID:

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This are the 2 eevees i got from breeding flagged as illegal

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Here are listed the Seeds for the Wild encounters H1

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Edited 2 hours ago by Luxrayboy789

[Kaphotics]

Your example screenshot is a level 5 Eevee; a level 5 Eevee can only arise from an Egg in Gen3, which do not get generated with a Method 1 (Wild) correlation.

Breeding eggs to have Method 1 PIDs is an anti-pattern novelty that is more likely to be cheated than naturally encountered. If you want to allow Eggs to have arbitrary PID types that they shouldn't have (aka, 2^32 chance to randomly match), then you must change the legality checker settings from the default which flags it.

[Luxrayboy789]

Sorry i meant, those PID's create a Method H1 Syncrhonize encounter. And are flagged as illegal.

[Kaphotics]

22 minutes ago, Luxrayboy789 said:

Sorry i meant, those PID's create a Method H1 Syncrhonize encounter. And are flagged as illegal.

There are no level 5 Eevee wild encounters in Gen3.

[Luxrayboy789]

12 hours ago, Kaphotics said:

There are no level 5 Eevee wild encounters in Gen3.

The list are for the PID not the pokemon, Eevee(Espeon/Umbreon) is the only way to trigger Method-H1 Synchronize due the ability PID in breeding. It's ability 2 so with other synchronize pokemon in gen 3 is impossible to trigger Method-H1 Synchronize. I just wanted to know if you could add the PID with the respective advances and seed for getting them via Wild (As you can see the chart, not all natures are available for wild encounter) and via Breeding (As you can see the charts, the breeding of those specific PID's require the breeding methods of Ruby/Sapphire||Leaf Green/Fire Red, because of the divition of the PID in two parts).

[Kaphotics]

20 minutes ago, Luxrayboy789 said:

The list are for the PID not the pokemon, Eevee(Espeon/Umbreon) is the only way to trigger Method-H1 Synchronize due the ability PID in breeding. It's ability 2 so with other synchronize pokemon in gen 3 is impossible to trigger Method-H1 Synchronize. I just wanted to know if you could add the PID with the respective advances and seed for getting them via Wild (As you can see the chart, not all natures are available for wild encounter) and via Breeding (As you can see the charts, the breeding of those specific PID's require the breeding methods of Ruby/Sapphire||Leaf Green/Fire Red, because of the divition of the PID in two parts).

I already answered this in my initial reply. Obtaining a PID and IV via breeding that can also correlate to a Method 1 PID/IV is statistically unlikely and is flagged by default unless you opt to change the legality setting yourself.

[Luxrayboy789]

1 hour ago, Kaphotics said:

I already answered this in my initial reply. Obtaining a PID and IV via breeding that can also correlate to a Method 1 PID/IV is statistically unlikely and is flagged by default unless you opt to change the legality setting yourself.

Yeah but the PID itself isn't obtained from a Method-H1. What i'm trying to say is that PID 00000000X [when X= 1 to 18 and C0]

triggers in the wild the Method-H1(C0 triggers cute charm) and for triggering Method-H1 Synchronize, the only capable of that are (Eevee) Espeon and Umbreon. But the PID can be obtained legaly by breeding to harvest mons on the Method-H1 Synchronize list.

 

The PID itself doesn't have a correlation with Method-H1, The PID creates or forces the machine to do a [Method-H1} and a [Method-H1 Synchronize]

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Luxrayboy789

[Kaphotics]

I'm well aware with how the RNG works. I documented it nearly 15 years ago.

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/past-gen-rng-research.61090/post-3642140

Again, this is flagged as invalid by default as the vast majority of times it is a user error when generating mons, rather than a meme RNG.

[Luxrayboy789]

I'm telling you that it can be RNG i got those charts from PokemonRNG, maybe as you say, people enter those PID by an error. But for hunters like me having an alert on something I RNG succesfully feels, awful. Like i said, would be great if the staff could add those PID (which can be RNG only in Ruby/Sapphire||Leaf Green/Fire Red) to the legality flags. Flagging those PID's as illegal seems like PkHex is lacking info.

 

Edited 55 minutes ago by Luxrayboy789

[Kaphotics]

Read my first reply again. I already gave you the solution.

[Luxrayboy789]

It wont fix that every RNG hunter has to do it. But ok, thanks for the time.

[Kaphotics]

24 minutes ago, Luxrayboy789 said:

It wont fix that every RNG hunter has to do it. But ok, thanks for the time.

Very very very few people who RNG are wanting to do novelty PID hunts for eggs, compared to the very frequent hack of modified captures into eggs not changing their PIDIV. The setting exists so you can change if the legality checker flags such things. I am not tuning the parse settings for "technically it is possible!" when you're already borderline cheating for meme matching PID/IVs. You RNG for resulting IVs, not for PIDs; I already know you're using an emulator with scripts, so it's not like you're doing this on legitimate hardware.

You can read more here:

Gen 3 Breeding PID Legality · Issue #3092 · kwsch/PKHeX

Gen 3 Egg PID\IV Combo Matching Wild\Static PID\IV · Issue #3894 · kwsch/PKHeX

Regarding the Gen 3 Egg Legality Issue · kwsch/PKHeX · Discussion #3895

PKHex incorrectly flagging a hatched gen 4 pokémon as illegal if its PID/IV combination match a spread that can be generated through method 1 · Issue #4347 · kwsch/PKHeX