[Complete] Shield and Sword (Bulky Offense OU RMT)

[Sabeta]

Don't the almost always pack EQ?

[Tbird]

Meh not as much as I thought apparently a lot seem to be doing DD/Taunt(Sub)/Water Fall/ Stone edge (bounce), DD/Rest/Water/Stone edge(Sleep talk) and other weird stuff. I guess your best bet is to use heatran to bait EQ and if EQ doesn't come then assume you're safe.

[Sabeta]

thing is, I'm thinking about switching out Tran for Nape.

[Gin]

I like Ape on this team for sure. I'd probably give Swampert some attack EVs and use it, Ape, and Shaymin to bust heads. Pretty simple FWG core, though you'd have to make sure you predict well with Scizor to beat Starmie

[Sabeta]

Well, when I'm paying any attention (which I do better on DS than on PO etc.) My prediction is quite epic. So I've no worries there.

[Gin]

I'll play against, if you want, to test it

[Sabeta]

I want to get the bugs worked out atm. lol.

So I still need a much more solid way of dealing with Gyarados.

=Sabedit=

It'll take a minor calculation, but I might know of a way.

nvm, I was thinking of giving Swampy HP-elec, but it wont work out.

[Gin]

HP Electric vap is the ultimate gyara counter

[Sabeta]

Yeah, but I had to ditch it for Tentacruel, who is very needed. =w=

[Sabeta]

Oi, I just thought, what about Jolteon>Shaymin? I found out I have a Togekiss weak anyway, and this was the best way to take care of it.

[Tbird]

Jolteon + Heatran + Tentacruel... If Flygon is down that'd be an unfortunate spot to be in .

[Sabeta]

How about Zapdos then? (Since Rotom forms are barred from me)

[Tbird]

Zapdos works well, give it a whirl .

[Sabeta]

Hmm, now I just need to know what set to run.

[Tbird]

Try and run ... well Bulk offence

~ Thunderbolt

~ Heatwave

~ U-Turn/ Hp Grass/ Ground

~ Roost

I'd say you want enough speed to out pace luke, enough HP/Def to live a Stone edge off of gyara, Enough Special attack to OHKO gyara, and throw any left over into special defence.

[Sabeta]

sounds like a plan.

[Tbird]

You could try:

96 HP <- Perfect HP number for leftovers and SR

248 Def <- roost stall against luke/gyara

88 Sp Atk <- OHKOs Gyar, high chance of OHKO with rocks on Luke

8 Sp Def <- Excess

76 Spe <- Out speeds Luke by 1

EDIT: W/ + speed nature

[Sabeta]

Now the only question that remains, is how does it fare against Togekiss?

[Tbird]

Fairly well I imagine, you outspeed it, resist air slash + Aura sphere, take pitiful damage from Espeed (if it runs it) and I imagine you can 2HKO it with Tbolt. I would test it... but I'm just about to grab some food .

[0660]

As many others have offered, I'll have a test battle with you if you ever need one.

[Sabeta]

Well, I am currently playtesting this team on PokeLab.

[Sabeta]

I think I'm going to call the team done, I'll test out infernape on this team, and afterwords I'll finish up the OP.

Zapdos is win.