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  1. I was wondering, when a pokemon is moved from GEN3 to GEN4 is their data is stored in the GEN4 save somehow? it does happen with the hall of fame, so i thought maybe it could be the case with Pal Park pokemon too. Maybe just their species and PID, or smth like that?
  2. Yes, it's true PID by itself isn't enough to fully recreate a pokemon, even when in gen3 and gen4 pokemon it determined shininess, nature, characteristic, gender and ability (in gen5 pkmn it was unrelated to nature, and in gen6 pkmn it only mattered for shininess), but I do consider it the most important piece to succesfully recover a gen3-5 pokemon because it determines IVs. We may not know the exact seed or method, but I have a trick to being able to narrow down the options and even find out the authentic one: hidden power type and characteristic! As a kid I did look them up before the pokemon was lost, so I have a faint memory of which ones they are. Of course, it's not a exact science, but other people may have photos, written notes or memories from which they can know for sure about these! Once you know, it can even be narrowed down to 1 option! (and if your pokemon is a starter or stationary pokemon, then it only can have method 1 IVs!) About my piloswine, don't worry, I edited her to have/recover her tough master rank and artist ribbons, as well as the ones I know I gave all my pokemon. I know her attacks and met level because I remember it well. Also, if I wasn't sure about the met level, it is lost when transferred to newer generations anyway, so even if you get it wrong it only matters if the poke stays in it's own generation iirc. Same for contest stats. And I'm almost sure her hidden power was grass! Also, I planned to wipe out her EVs in gen8 to train her differently anyway (with that isle of armor NPC. I love that they made that a feature!), so that isn't an issue in my case! For other people, ya, it kinda sucks, but it can be fun to train the rescued pokemon again. I do personally think the EVs are the most benign out of all the data that can be lost from a pokemon. The only thing my piloswine may be missing is, maybe, a couple of contest ribbons bellow master rank, if I did try that... so if I guessed the IVs correctly, it's 99 to 100% the exact same pokemon! I hope people can use paintings PIDs to complete that piece of the puzzle, like I was able to do (...if I'm not remembering her hidden power type wrong!) And you did an amazing job with the hall of fame extractor, it helped me immensely and is such a cool and useful tool for the community to have
  3. It was absolutely her on the painting! So she was from firered all this time... 20 years passed from when I caught her, so it makes sense I mixed it up down the line. I can't believe it. Like, it took me hours to finally realize this is happening. So many years thinking it was impossible and everything was lost... Thank you so much for giving it a chance theSLAYER, I'm so happy. Like, this was never done before, and now we know the Lilycove paintings, both in the museum and in the contest hall, store PID, TID and SID apart from nickname... anyone will be able to restore their pokemon from the paintings! I didn't even remember or realize that there were paintings in the contest hall too! That could have been huge to be able to recover other pokemon (not my case, by the looks of it). All in all, there are 5 possible paintings in the museum... +6 paintings in emerald's Lilycove contest hall, and in ruby and sapphire, 3 in Lilycove, and 1 in Verdanturf, Fallarbor, and Slateport. But it's important to note that all of the contest hall paintings, contrary to the museum, can have NPCs stored instead of the player's pokemon. Also, in my testing, I overwrote/replaced the same museum painting with different nicknamed pokemon to find out if old ones got deleted, and I can confirm that the PID, TID and SID of the old pokemon, all of their painting data in fact, are still fully stored up to 3 times after they were replaced. Maybe even more replacements are possible (I did delete the pokemon of the previous paintings off the party/boxes right after they got their painting to make sure only the painting data showed up, if there was any left. Around 5 instances of the old pokemon showed up in the first and second replacement, but at the third, only 2 showed up, in the same format of the painting data). Well, what more can I say? I hope this discovery can help other people, or be useful in some way! As for myself, I can't ask for more. I get to be with my beloved old friend again!
  4. Mine! ^^ The leafgreen cartridge I had as a kid. I got 3 shiny pokemon from there, just by playing normally when I was little (ditto, swinub, and another one) So, one weird thing I saw, is that the TID and SID from the painting are the same TID and SID from my firered playthrough... it's so strange because I don't remember anything like that, neither getting a piloswine from there nor being it shiny. Or gamesharking one like that... I wasn't able to know a pokemon's SID back then, so it would have been impossible for me to create it that way. I am that forgetful that I actually got my piloswine from firered instead of leafgreen??? Or maybe it's possible to make the PID work with the ANABEL TID and SID and I'm just doing it wrong? But the painting... that data couldn't have just changed the TID and SID for another's pokemon, so it has to be from firered?????? I'm so confused. I have a question, is there any way to know what seed was used for a pokemon's IVs? Most of the time 2 seeds appear.
  5. No, only one leaf green game. And the created TIDs were like all 00000 weird ones. So the piloswine from the painting has C02F2057 as a PID? That's strange, because the gamesharked one I have left in gen4 doesn't have that PID. A copy I completely forgot about? What is the TID and SID from the one in the painting? EDIT: Nevermind, just saw your upload.
  6. OMG YOU DID IT! THAT HAS TO BE THE DITTO FROM THE PAINTING! So the museum does store PIDs! As well as TID and SID?! And it does store OT althou it isn't visible to the player, but not the OT from the pokemon, the OT from the game??? Interesting... I would have taken a million years to figure this out by myself, I'm sure...! Sadly... I think the piloswine... the piloswine may be gone. It should have the same TID and SID as ditto, right? F6EB and 585E :·( But it's different. I'm trying to revive it in PkHex but it doesn't turn shiny (I may be doing something wrong thou)
  7. Nop, no idea about OTILIO It may be a Colosseum OT (but of the spanish version). EDIT: Oh, BASILIO! I'm pretty sure that's a Colosseum OT! (of the purified pkmn) ANABEL should appear in the hall of fame, that's were I was able to recover the ditto's PID and a couple more of other pokemon. That's where I got the blaziken's PID too. I suspect that OT is not stored when a pokemon gets a painting, because in the hall of fame you can see that ingame, while in the museum you just see the sprite and nickname of the pokemon/species. Maybe because the devs showed less to the player, they decided to store less too. I know for a fact that there is leftover data of a piloswine too that was transferred, another gamesharked copy of the original. And I know for a fact that one doesn't have ribbons, so it can't be the one from the museum (I still have that one in gen4, just checked just in case). And ooohh.... so it was the gamesharked ditto that did the contest!? For reference, these are the in-game paintings of the two shiny pokemon (both should be ANABEL OT to be the originals, and not the gamesharked copies): ("The smartness maestro - the wise Pokémon <Name>" and "The mighty tough hyper Pokémon <Name>") Here is the same sav without the ghost data of the transfers so the museum locations can be easier to track down. Worst case scenario, I did get the paintings with the gamesharked copies of the two legit pokemon (JORGE OT), and they are irrecuperable (well, the piloswine is...), hopefully that's not the case! POKEMON_EMER_BPES00 (ghostless).sav
  8. Yes! Blaziken's PID is 0A31F551. And no, it shouldn't be that, but ANABEL. The JORGE one is one I transferred to gen4 and left ghost data (I checked with A-Save, it can see the info of the pokemon that were just transferred and until another is placed in their spot in the box it doesn't go away... and it is there). That's the one I gamesharked as a kid, but the other one is legit. But maybe I did a contest with it? It shoulnd't be the case thou, iirc. Also, I tested it and it does seem like the museum data doesn't get erased up to 4 re-writes/replacements of the painting with other pokemon. EDIT: O_O ...it can't be!!!!
  9. Oh... I see, I had no idea about that regarding the video! And the problem is that my pokemon didn't have a nickname. So that makes it tougher to find. Here is the sav! In the museum there are 5 paintings; of a piloswine, ditto (both shiny), ninjask, zigzagoon and Blaziken (nicknamed RON). I do have the PID of the ditto if it was necessary to compare. Here goes nothing: POKEMON_EMER_BPES00.sav
  10. Ok, so I looked into it and the paintings do store nickname and shininess, so there is a very high chance it stores PIDs althogether (IVs, nature, gender, ability...), so a lost pokemon could be recovered with the PID it stores, which is what I'm trying to do (a shiny piloswine from my childhood). I have all other info except for the IVs and PID, just like this video: I'm trying to navigate the hex code of the save to find the location of the museum data, and see if there are PIDs stored there. I found out that only nicknames are searchable, not pokemon species names, so that data should be either encoded or uses a different table. By my testing, I think there is a chance for overwritten paintings to still be stored in the save (as in, when you replace it with a new painting). I have yet to confirm this thou, I'm gonna try it out now. This is unrelated to my objective but I wanna know if it does. I'm a noob with hex editing and I'm learning as I go, so any guidance or resources would be very appreciated. I still don't know how to locate and decode the hall of fame data, but Im going to try to figure that now because I think it can be 1:1 to how the museum data works, minus stored OT, TID and SID.
  11. Ah, no no, I didn't mean to say it wasn't determined. It is! Just like you said I meant to say that, pokesav, just re-rolls the PID while taking into account/incorporating the nature, just like PkHex. But it's flawed, so many times the poke is illegal, at least when shininess or legendaries are involved. It's a very old program so it makes sense.
  12. So RNG Reporter is outdated? Alright, I'll try the new one. About the nature, just tested it and pokesav doesn't change it, even if it changes the PID. It just makes the pokemon illegal (sometimes legal too, not the case of Jirachi). It must take the nature into account when it generates a new PID. About the IVs and the nature of the Jirachi, I just put them in Pokefinder and got this result: If I change the PID and SID to this one, would it check out? EDIT: Ok, just found out it has to specifically say "Channel" lol, because I read that CHANNEL Jirachis were generated with the Reverse Method 1 I thought it was the right one. Well!! I did it!! My Jirachi checked out just now! I came to the conclusion that I did edit the HP IV, as it was a 31. When I searched for a docile CHANNEL Jirachi that had all the original IVs except the HP, there was only 1 result!! This must be it... after 15 years, not only did the Jirachi appear, but it has been restored to its original self! Don't know when the SID may have been modified or corrupted, but if one of you said that it's impossible to have a CHANNEL Jirachi with that SID, it must be true. Thank you each and every one of you! I couldn't have done it without you! My icey Jirachi says THANK YOU too, for rescuing it!
  13. I tried that, but bizarrely nothings pops up. How can this be? The same spread appears just fine in the main window. I can't get the SID because of this... Here is what I'm seeing after clicking "Find":
  14. I thought of something, back then the only edit I did to IVs was 31-ing all of them, so maybe the HP IV isn't the original? I looked it up and I got only one legal spread for docile with all of the IVs intact but HP and is 15/12/24/27/26/3... maybe this is the actual IV spread it had? That special defense IV of 13 may be a badly typed 31? ...A docile CHANNEL Jirachi with 12 attack, 24 defense, 27 special attack and 3 speed IVs aslo existing seems like too much of a coincidence. Weird thing is that I tried to put these IVs into PkHex, with their correspondent PID, just to try it out, and it doesn't check out I don't know why. Something to do with the Jirachi's SID? I have no idea how to check for valid SIDs for CHANNEL Jirachi. This pokemon has extra steps! Ok, I checked all of them and Jirachi's SID is indeed unique. However, It does share the last 2 numbers with the OT of the game Jirachi is in (96), but it should be coincidental. In the rare chance that I tried to type in the same one and I started by the end, and never finished doing it, I guess those 2 numbers or the SID itself may be unauthentic. I see... the gesture is highly appreciated! So the SID, OT gender and IVs are different, but it is legal while being docile and retaining the same characteristic. How did you generate the SID?
  15. What do you mean? A CHANNEL Jirachi's PID isn't generated when you get it, exclusive to itself? Do you mean pokemon from the game it generated into/was sent to? If you mean that maybe Jirachi's got other pokemon's SID by mistake, I checked a lot of the pokemon from the save and none seems to have a similar one. I'll go over all of their SIDs and see if I can confirm.
  16. ...Strange. So that's why I couldn't get it to work? Those are the unaltered IVs it came with from gen3, and I do remember it being docile nature back then. I've read that CHANNEL Jirachi PID generation is specially complicated and even unknown to some extent... could this be a corner case? If that's it, what a special Jirachi this one turned out to be. At the very least, I would like for it to retain its nature and characteristic, so it's genuinely still the same Jirachi no matter what, so I can try to add or remove 1 IV to see if I get a PID that checks out. But it's a huge bummer that after miraculously surviving so many years, I have to modify it to bring it forward the current generation...
  17. This is a legitimate CHANNEL Jirachi that was transferred to a flashcard, and has been sitting in a lost hard drive for 15 years. As a kid i tried to turn it shiny with pokesav which messed up its PID, but it still retains IVs, secret ID, and everything else. Now that I found it, I'm trying to restore its PID so I can transfer it to modern games, but after trying RNG Reporter I only got a weird all-numbers PID that doesn't check out in PKHex. How can I do it? Is there a way? This is the Jirachi: 385 - JIRACHI - 1D90B56E9790.pk4
  18. Silly question maybe, but would it be possible that in a GBA pokemon cartridge, old saves could be recovered from the flash memory as old files can be recovered in a hard drive with recovery programs? Or, at the very least, what data could remain and be restored of old saves? Without having started a new save file I mean, in the same play-through.
  19. I was wondering, if a pokemon in GEN3 gets a portrait in the Lilycove Museum (after winning a master rank pokemon contest), does its data get stored as it does in the Hall of Fame? It does show that the pokemon is shiny, for example. So I thought that maybe it stored PID, OT and more as the Hall of Fame does. Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask this, I wasn't sure where to ask about it.
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