bueller646 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) i've been playing shoddy for a little while and iv come to the point where im only winning about half of my battles and i don't know what to change. any advice that you guys can give is greatly appreciated so here's the latest revision of my team: Infernape (M) @ Focus Sash Ability: Blaze EVs: 64 Atk/192 Spd/252 SAtk Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def) - Fake Out - Stealth Rock - Fire Blast - Close Combat ---lead: fake out first then stealth rock. i've really gotten to like this lead because of its reliability and good type coverage against other leads. Suicune @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Spd Bold nature (+Def, -Atk) - Calm Mind - Rest - Sleep Talk - Surf ---wall/calm mind sweeper. im not so sure about suicune's synergy with this team. i previously had starmie in this spot. Gengar (M) @ Life Orb Ability: Levitate EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Energy Ball - Shadow Ball - Focus Blast - Thunderbolt ---great type coverage with this set plus immunity to ground and fighting Tyranitar (M) @ Life Orb Ability: Sand Stream EVs: 160 HP/252 Atk/96 Spd Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Stone Edge - Pursuit - Crunch - Aqua Tail ---my sweeper. tyranitar usually does a pretty good job with the heavy hitting Dusknoir (M) @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure EVs: 252 HP/28 Atk/228 Def Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Will-o-wisp - Pain Split - Ice Punch - Fire Punch ---my main physical/special wall Scizor (M) @ Life Orb Ability: Technician EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 Spd Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - U-turn - Bullet Punch - Superpower - Pursuit ---pretty much the standard revenge killer for OU though i am definitely considering switching him out for a weavile because i don't have much of a counter to dragon types Edited January 25, 2010 by bueller646 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomspot555 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Infernape (M) @ Focus Sash Ability: Blaze EVs: 64 Atk/192 Spd/252 SAtk Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def) - Fake Out - Stealth Rock - Fire Blast - Close Combat Lead Ape has a couple of options it's other anti-leads don't have. Encore, Taunt, and Counter. Yours is fine if you actually end up utilizing both attacks, but if you find that you're using Fire Blast more often than Close Combat, or vice versa, than consider one of those three options. Encore will probably let bulky slow leads set up SR, but then be forced to switch. Taunt can stop them completely. Counter will hit them hard if they're running physical moves. I would proceed to rate normally, but then I saw Tyranitar. The only other Pokemon immune to sand is Scizor. Tyranitar and Abomasnow and Hippowdon are not Pokemon you can just throw onto any team. At least 3/6 of the members, if not 4-5, need to be immune to the respective weather patterns. So let's play with this: Instead of Lead Ape, let's use the standard lead Aerodactyl. Aero w/ Focus Sash Pressure Jolly 252 atk/252 speed/6 hp - Taunt - Stealth Rock - Earthquake - Stone Edge/Rock Slide/Rock Tomb/Toxic Last slot is up to you. SE causes damage, Rock Slide has flinch hax, Rock Tomb lowers speed (useful when up against other lead aeros), Toxic hits those bulky ground lead Swamperts who won't care about any of the othet attacks. Take Tyranitar out and then use Choice Band Infernape. Infernape (M) @ Choice Band Ability: Blaze EVs: 56 HP/252 Atk/200 Spd Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Close Combat - Stone Edge - U-turn - Fire Punch This causes SO MUCH damage, and because most usually expect Mixape or Nasty Plot Mixape. Get this. Close Combat wrecks everything that doesn't resist it. So when Scizor "cleverly" switches to Heatran expecting Flamethrower or Fire Punch, hit it with CLOSE COMBAT on the switch instead. Stays in? That's fine, because Scizor hates Close Combat too, and Infernape resists it's priority Bullet Punch. The other common Scizor switch in is Latias. Which, with some prediction, is heavily damaged by U-Turn. This makes Ape a great scouter when you can force a switch. SE lets you cover Dragonite, Salamence, and Gyarados. Thunder Punch is also a decent option. Mach Punch is available but not recommended since Ape is already so fast. Flare Blitz is also available, but if SR is on the ground or sand/snow is up, you'll die quickly from recoil damage. Then, for Scizor, let's play defense with it: Scizor (M) @ Leftovers Ability: Technician EVs: 252 HP/184 Atk/72 Spd Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Brick Break - Bullet Punch - Swords Dance - Substitute I'm trying to remember why I put 72 speed there...feel free to reassign it if you don't think it's useful. Basically you get behind a Sub and start setting up near the end of the game. Blocks status, but make sure to get rid of Taunt and Roar/Whirlwinders beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueller646 Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 thanks very much for the advice. i've done exactly as you said and it seems to be working very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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