Ultra Moon constant rotomdex advice

[AnnoyingRotom1]

I have 70 hours on my Ultra Moon game, but for most of that time I've been constantly bombarded by advice from the rotomdex. I've already done some research and found that this issue starts when you allow rotom to give you a nickname. Since then I've contemplated resetting the game for tens of hours to get rid of the nickname and never say yes, but I don't want to lose all my pokemon and start all over again. There are some threads online saying that if you change the nickname he gave you back to your OT with pkhex, the advice stops. So I've installed homebrew and everything, and used pkhex to change the nickname, but the advice still happens constantly. I'm just dumbfounded by this and wondering if it's even possible to make him shut up. I constantly try to ignore the bottom screen and always daydream about just throwing the rotomdex off a cliff at this point. The feature has absolutely ruined the game. After every single battle, or any time I use the menu or a pokemon ride, and even when I save the game, rotom regurgitates advice and blocks the entire bottom screen for 10 seconds, every. single. time.

Is there any way at all to make the advice stop by editing the main? I don't mind the rotomdex itself, it's just the constant harassment of advice.

 

[Guest]

It's not caused by the rotomdex nickname, but rather, it starts happening once he asks you whether he can nickname you or not. Regardless of your answer, once he reaches that point, he'll start being a pain.

The best course of action here, would be to start a brand new file, play through as normal, and saving the game at regular intervals. Try to get a save file backup as close as possible to the point where rotom asks you about nicknaming you. Then once he asks about the nickname, answer No, and then save the game and make a backup of that too. Then you'd have to compare both save files for changed flags, there has to be a flag (or more) that determines Rotom's state and whether he's annoying yet or not.

Then you could restore your original save game, and edit those flags in your save to stop him from being annoying.

I've thought about this, I've just never gotten around to doing it yet. But it's on my radar.

[AnnoyingRotom1]

9 hours ago, Ammako said:

It's not caused by the rotomdex nickname, but rather, it starts happening once he asks you whether he can nickname you or not. Regardless of your answer, once he reaches that point, he'll start being a pain.

The best course of action here, would be to start a brand new file, play through as normal, and saving the game at regular intervals. Try to get a save file backup as close as possible to the point where rotom asks you about nicknaming you. Then once he asks about the nickname, answer No, and then save the game and make a backup of that too. Then you'd have to compare both save files for changed flags, there has to be a flag (or more) that determines Rotom's state and whether he's annoying yet or not.

Then you could restore your original save game, and edit those flags in your save to stop him from being annoying.

I've thought about this, I've just never gotten around to doing it yet. But it's on my radar.

I've already backed up the 70 hour game so alright. I was going to try to speedrun it but I'll just play casually and save every 10-15 minutes like you said and report anything in this thread later. You'll be waiting over a week though

But what do you mean by flags? Are you talking about pkhex? I've already searched everything and there's nothing that would affect rotom besides changing the nickname option

Edited November 19, 2019 by AnnoyingRotom1
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[Guest]

3 minutes ago, AnnoyingRotom1 said:

I've already backed up the 70 hour game so alright. I was going to try to speedrun it but I'll just play casually and save every 10-15 minutes like you said and report anything in this thread later. You'll be waiting over a week though

But what do you mean by flags? Are you talking about pkhex? I've already searched everything in and there's nothing that would affect rotom besides changing the nickname option anyway

Under Event Flags, the Research tab. At the bottom, you can load the Before and After save files, and it'll tell you which flags differ between both. Hopefully it'll find something relevant.

You don't have to worry about it though. I mean, you can do it if you want to do it, but it was something I wanted to do eventually.

[AnnoyingRotom1]

30 minutes ago, Ammako said:

Under Event Flags, the Research tab. At the bottom, you can load the Before and After save files, and it'll tell you which flags differ between both. Hopefully it'll find something relevant.

You don't have to worry about it though. I mean, you can do it if you want to do it, but it was something I wanted to do eventually.

Well I'll post in this thread anyway about the question when it comes up. I'll keep saving every 10-15 minutes. If the nickname question comes up I'll turn off the game and make a copy of the save file. If the question still comes up at the same time after resetting the game, I'll save after then post both versions of the save file here. It's probably not triggered by some event or time so I'll probably be just soft resetting the game whenever rotom asks the question then continue playing until he asks again, to just soft reset again (annoying, but not as annoying as rotom)

[Guest]

I'm pretty sure it's dependent on how many interactions you've had with him, though I don't know how many it takes. I've been making a point to ignore Rotom so that he never gets to the point of getting annoying, and the question of a nickname never comes up. It likely requires forming a certain bond with him before he considers giving you a nickname.

[AnnoyingRotom1]

@Ammako Update: I'm 10 hours in and Rotom asked if I want the nickname Roto-M after defeating the fire trial. I ignored the question for 5 minutes but he was very persistent with it, and always asked at the end of battles and interactions, etc... I tried to get rid of the question by going to the route 8 Colress cut-scene (Rotom usually has some dialogue at the end of cut-scenes), but he still asked the question. So I finally denied the question and went into battle to test whether he gave unwanted advice afterwards. After 2 battles, he did.

I reset the game (and lost about 20 minutes...), and tried to reach the point where I was before to get a save file closer to the question. However, when I touched Rotom the instant after resetting, he asked the nickname question again. I made a copy of the save file then started the game again. When he asked the question I still denied it. I went into grass and had at least 20 battles but Rotom never gave advice after them, even though I answered the nickname question. So I reset the game again, but this time I accepted the nickname question. Shockingly, after many battles, he never gave advice. I saved then reset the game again to see if that had an effect, but it did not--he still never gave advice.

Unfortunately, right before I began the fire trial again, Rotom gave me random advice, as well as right after. I tried battling in grass, but he gave more advice. I saved the game and made another copy. I've put both saves in a zip file--you can have a look if you want to

saves.zip

[Guest]

Even if I revert every flag and event constant differences between the Before and After save files, he still gives the advice every time. So either something crucial was already set in the Before save file, or the thing that determines whether or not he gives advice is not a flag or an event constant.

(I've also tried reverting the amount of rotomdex interactions and roto-lotos back to 0, alongside these, didn't change anything.)

So I'll probably start a new game at some point, and save right at the beginning when you get rotomdex. Then make a backup of that save file, and just keep interacting with him whenever possible, standing in the same spot the whole time without doing anything else. Then once he hopefully asks that question, and once I maybe start getting that unwanted advice, then I'll save the game and check. That way, if event flags and constants still don't help, I'll be able to check in a hex editor. Comparing your two saves in a hex editor would be futile, because there are way too many differences and I don't know what I'm looking for, but if I had save files with minimal differences, it should be much easier to find relevant differences.

Thanks for your time, either way.

Edited November 23, 2019 by Guest