CowColor

I actually love building a Team with the EV Training, Perfect IV's, Breeding, ect.

Its fun for me to do all the hard work and what not.

I agree with what wraith89 is saying. Anything in game works.

I respect you for putting up with that since that can take a extremely long time and multiple re-trys to get everything right.

Are you sure the bolded part is what you wanted to say? If it is I'm glad you agree with me.

And I'm not twisting your words, I'm merely saying it isn't a waste to make a team at all, which you seem to abhor.

Bottom line: Anything in game works... but you seem so against having a team, and as others seem to say, they like having a team. Your opinion, my opinion, we're different. Leave it at that.

What do you mean by "you agree with me"

I just want to point out that one pokemon is more efficient and less tedious for people who want to finish the game quickly.

That was the main point that i was trying say.

It has been done in every pokemon game i played. from red/blue/yellow to now

yellow was kind of different i use the Squirtle instead right after i got it and finished it that way.

Scyther has a pretty low catch rate actually, but that is irrelevant. And if you EXP share it, you might as well just train up Scyther because it is quite a potent Pokemon to begin with.

I don't watch TV... and no, I think it's fun compiling a team that can cover each others' weaknesses. Training a bit isn't that bad either... I grinded a couple of levels in a matter of minutes if I needed to (it isn't those MMOs where leveling is difficult). Anything can get boring if done repetitively, so either way, that is irrelevant. And who enjoys making these teams? Ask everyone else then and those who made their team. Of course people take breaks, that's natural... for anything.

And you shifted topics... when was it an argument about actual training vs making a team? It was the argument of having one overpowered pokemon vs having a whole team. Your posts indicate that it is a sin to make a whole team while playing through the game, when it isn't.

I use one or two overpower pokemon to finish the story and the whole team is for battling online or whatever

I never said it was a sin your just twisting my words, i said it was just a waste of time when you do it with just one pokemon.

You don't watch Tv? Okay then but i am pretty sure that you have done other things while trying to train your pokemon maybe browsing the internet or maybe right now when trying to responding to this post.

For the game all you need is one maybe two. Since the computers aren't smart enough to setup.

Much to wraith89's despair, I must comment on this old thread.

@CowColor:

No. ಠ_ಠ

The game wouldn't be fun just using one Pokémon. You gotta have variety, because your goal is to become the Pokémon Master! You are to obtain all Pokémon!

*I know, I sound a bit ridiculous. xP*

PS: This thread should be locked if it's really that old.

The story is not fun i try to finish it fast as possible since i played gold and silver in the past before so i knew what was going to happen. I do this because i want to play my friend thats the only fun part i get in pokemon.

PS

When diamond and pearl came out i was excited but when i got it i realized it was the same thing just better looking and got bored of it quickly before i got to the first gym i wanted to quit but i finished the game in 2 days and it ended there.

I love building a Team. Team's may vary and you have a lot of choices to make. You can have a Rain Dance Team like me or a Sunny Day Team. You can have a Hail Team or a Sand Storm Team. You can have a Monotype Team or an Unique Team. You can have a Cute Team or a Giant Team. Many Teams comes with different options on how to use them. Isn't that the fun part?

But when building a Team, it has its strong points and weak points. Usually when you have a Pokémon over Lv.50 by the time of the 5 Badge, you will be overpowered.

So it all comes down to if you want to take the time to train your Team while playing through the game or train a single Pokémon while playing through the game.

Do you actually like building a team or just the idea of one? by building a team i mean doing the necessary training done like EV training and getting the perfect IV and egg moves the right nature and all that.

No I did not contradict myself. Early EV training doesn't mean specific EV training to get a specific build... you fight wild Pokemon and you gain EVs. Simple as that... and Pidgey/Weedle/Rattata/Zubat gives Speed, Sentrets give Attack, etc... and it will eventually build up. That is what I was referring to, rather than getting a clean Gyarados.

You did not tell me you had other "utility" Pokemon for catching purposes. And my point was using your overpowered single starter will make it tough to catch certain Pokemon you may want later.

If that is what you use, then whatever, use it if it is your preference. I'm not saying it's wrong, I have friends who do that too, but it isn't up to you to tell others that "having a team of 6 is ineffective" or whatever, when people actually enjoy building a team of multiple Pokemon. It's THEIR Pokemon journey and as you can see, we all beat the game with a team of 6. And btw, Gyarados outclasses Feraligatr... well, not completely, but damage wise and whatnot... and take into factor that not everybody picks a Feraligatr.

I know not everybody picks the gatr but you asked what i used so don't go turning it around and making it into something else. Also of course gyrados is better than the gatr but i don't want to go around training another pokemon that i am going to replace once i finish the game.

Also Isn't it common sense that i would use something more suited for catching a pokemon. Rather than a pokemon i use for battling, i also don't catch much pokemon during the whole game until i finished the game that is when i started catching.

furthermore i never mentioned "having a team of 6 is ineffective" and who actually enjoys making these teams you keep battling seeing the same thing over see a pokemon kill it and repeat over again, its so boring that you find yourself training your pokemon while doing other things like watching TV. Don't lie to me i know you been through that and atleast looked away from the ds while training. But still continued because it was a easy task. They like the idea of making a team for a pokemon journey not actually doing the actual training.

HG/SS is johto

HG/SS is not just johto its kanto as well.

since you can explore the land of kanto and battle their gym leaders and receive a actual badge after defeating them.

Again, your opinion. Geodude is an amazing Pokemon, early game especially. It definitely helps using one vs Falkner and Bugsy. Necessary? No. Useful? Yes, very. Also does well on Whitney but its usefulness may stop after a while unless you feel like keeping it, which isn't at all bad if you feel attached to it.

Magikarp --> Gyarados. What's wrong with early Gyarados? Yes you can get a Red Gyarados right off the bat later, but some people actually want to, well, have it earlier? Thanks to the earlier EV training, it will be stronger than the red Gyarados as well. Tedious training? Sure. Fun of wrecking early game? Why not? Same deal with Abra. And what's better than that satisfaction when you see your Metapod turn into Butterfree and can finally beat stuff? Same deal with Magikarp to Gyarados... a better feel of accomplishment to some.

And define your "better options". Level 51 Golbat? Level 44 Ursaring? And okay, try catching that level 20 Larvitar with your level 77 whatever... chucking balls may catch it but granted it's harder and definitely not as fun... whatever, I should not even argue about this. It's just as pointless as pointless gets.

You definitely don't understand how others play this game... so whatever style they play, just let them be. No one should be told how to play Pokemon. Not everyone goes mono "one Pokemon run". I'm also curious to what Pokemon you have used and what moveset it has.

I have a geodude but i only use it for HM moves

i rather use my gatr then that magikarp rather wait for that shiny gyardos

as you said early EV training? You sort of contradicted yourself, that actually takes a longer time than and makes the game not challenging like you mention earlier sort of like your over leveled.

as for catching lavrvitar i can catch it with a scyther with false swipe or trade with a friend. or i can sleep it then catch it.

but i already have a tyranitar

I use a Feraligatr with waterfall, ice punch superpower and crunch

when Feraligatr reached its max level i use a raikou that i caught

with discharge thunderbolt extrasenory and crunch i think

thats all i use

preach on, wraith.

The gym leaders really need to get better, the highest level was 41 in HG/SS i believe. One problem is if they go to high with the gym leaders, where will the elite four go?

No i thought kanto gym leaders had some higher level pokemon like 50+

If that's your opinion then stick to it yourself. No need to criticize what most people do: build a team in-game for the fun purpose and how the game is actually meant to be played. Yes, I catch that Pidgey early and train it. And some Pokemon you get early are quite good, like Magikarp or Geodude. And of course, you have that problem of overleveling where you're too strong you OHKO every wild Pokemon in the game, making it hard to catch one except by luck.

If you want an improved AI that matches up your level then do Battle Tower. That's all I'll say. Gym Leaders are the storyline part. If you overlevel your Pokemon, sorry you won't get a challenge in-game.

Anyways people, this is a REALLY old topic I proposed back before HGSS was even out... so you can totally disregard it.

no i say geodude isn't as a good and magikarp is even worst.

there are better options

Its not hard to catch pokemon all you have to do is just use weaker moves i don't have problems in that area.

Well i am the type of person that finishes the game then focuses, working on a team since i find it more difficult and would require more time to build a team as your progress through the story since you don't have all the best resources available. Most of the good pokemon you can get are in late game anyways or after you finish the game.

As for improving gym leaders? the game should have the gym leader match up the level of the highest level pokemon in your party or an average of what your have in your party, so people (like me) can be over leveled for the match, that would be challenging.

Nah the gym leaders are easy, i can one hit everything, the problem with your pokemon is that you guys focus on more than one pokemon, i see people on youtube with like 5 pokemon that they trained. Why waste your time when you get to victory road there are already pokemon in the wild at that level, your just wasting time. All you need is one fully trained pokemon to finish the game without cheating.

i only needed 2 pokemon my Feraligatr and Raikou they weren't EV trained this was just used to finish the game legally.