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3 hours ago, Utsudon said:

I want to use all of the WonderCards, but I'm afraid to get banned in Pokemon Home. I want to get pokemon like the Shiny Yveltal of Pokemon XY in Mystery Gift, but i'm not sure if that is considered "Legal"

The legal checker of Pkhex considering that pokemons as legal?

3 hours ago, Kaphotics said:

Cheat codes just change the behavior of the game. If the resulting behavior does things that aren't just "skipping until shiny" then you're going to end up with impossible outputs.

But, so why the cheat codes work fine in Black/White? And generated 100% legal shiny pokemon? The Pkhex considering all of them as Legal!
In Black2/White2 the situation is very different, i used the same cheat code, but only (for example) 4 of 10 shiny generated are considerate legal by Pkhex, what is the problem with the others mons? 

3 hours ago, Kaphotics said:

Not all games have PID/IV correlations; Gen5 has one for wild pokemon where PID bits need to align with the trainer ID, even if not shiny.

Gen5 includes Black/White and Black2/White2.. so why the cheat codes works fine only in Black/White? What is the difference between them?

On 7/20/2023 at 5:42 PM, Desmondcsz said:

Not quite "impossible" since it also would depend on how the Action Replay gives you the shinies, for example, some AR force the same Shiny PID everytime so even though the pokemon would be legal, they'll all be "clones" of each other and that of course would be an obvious sign that they're not legit.

But yes, for the most part it will be enough to change the PID from normal to a shiny one and the game won't see any issue with that.

I have an interesting update… i tried to use the shiny code on white2/black2 instead of white/black... and not all shiny caught on B2W2 are legal... Example: 10 shiny caught, but 6 are not legal and 4 are legal... this is very strange... why this difference in you opinion?  Maybe there is a RNG difference between B/W and B2/W2?

4 hours ago, Desmondcsz said:

Not quite "impossible" since it also would depend on how the Action Replay gives you the shinies, for example, some AR force the same Shiny PID everytime so even though the pokemon would be legal, they'll all be "clones" of each other and that of course would be an obvious sign that they're not legit.

But yes, for the most part it will be enough to change the PID from normal to a shiny one and the game won't see any issue with that.

I checked the PID on the pkhex, and they have different PID 
At this point, in my opinion, spending hours/days for found a legit shiny no longer make sense.. but is only for a personal satisfaction.. 

14 hours ago, Desmondcsz said:

The thing is that starting from Gen 5, they made it so Any PID is possible, meaning that the shiny generated via action replay are still technically obtainable in-game and thus, are marked as legal.

You'd have to mess up badly in order for the shinies to be marked as illegal (i.e. trying to assign impossible stats, abilities, etc.)

 

Gen 4 on the other hand (and Gen 3) had more limitations so PID generating required a bit more in order to get legal pokemon.

This mean that from 5th gen is impossible recognized a shiny generated with Action Replay (or directly with “Shiny finder PID” button on the Pkhex)?.. Is truly sufficent only change the PID for have a legal shiny mons? ..

I thought the Action Replay/cheat codes to get shiny pokemon (every random pokemon encounter is a shiny pokemon) created non-legitimate cromatic pokemon… but i caught one… and the pkhex legal-check mark it as 100% “legal” .. without any PID problems or others… so… pkhex is no longer reliable to recognized a illegal/legal pkmn?… Or this ActionReplay code generates a correct/legal Shiny PD few seconds before the pkmn appared? 

I don’t think the pkhex marks “legit” a shiny illegal pokemon… 

This is only for Gen5 BW/B2W2, in the Gen4 the shiny generated with similar code is considered non legal to Pkhex

I thought the Action Replay/cheat codes to get shiny pokemon (every random pokemon encounter is a shiny pokemon) created non-legitimate cromatic pokemon… but i caught one… and the pkhex legal-check mark it as 100% “legal” .. without any PID problems or others… so… pkhex is no longer reliable to recognized a illegal/legal pkmn?… Or this ActionReplay code generates a correct/legal Shiny PD few seconds before the pkmn appared? 

I don’t think the pkhex marks “legit” a shiny illegal pokemon… 

This is only for Gen5 BW/B2W2, in the Gen4 the shiny generated with similar code is considered non legal to Pkhex

6 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

Depends on mode of delivery and the device received on. Some deliveries can technically have any date allowed on the device, cause the device itself was allowed to redeem the gift in-game on any date. Would people draw undue conclusions, likely, but the date by itself isn’t really indicative of anything 

For Example… Europe Shiny Entei for gen4 it was possible obtained from 14 to 20 Febraury 2011… if i obtaining it today the date is 15 July 2023 …. is necessary modify and set a date between 14 - 20 Febraury 2011 (?)

10 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

I personally prefer getting the game to generate the details but that’s just me. As long as the details are correct both are as legal.

After obtained the event pokemon is necessary modify the date of obtaining, with a correct one, right? For the maximum legality possible... 
 

8 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

Difference is redeeming the gift in-game VS PKHeX generating it for you.

Yes i know, but with “difference” i mean “legality” difference, the pokemon generated is the same or not? I want it to be as legal as possible… which of the two methods is more legal?

Thanks for answer 

With the pkhex it is possible to inject event pokemon with PGT and PCD files (for Gen 4) and with PGF files for Gen 5.
But it is also possible directly from the pkhex with this way: "Tools-->Data-->Mystery Gift Database"..
But what is the real difference between this two methods? Directly from the pkhex it is much faster, just copy and paste the event pokemon into the box/team and is finish... but exist a difference between the methods? 

Maybe using directly the pkhex "copy and paste" method... makes Mon not legit/legal? ..Instead injecting the pgt, pcd, pgf file (and pick up the mons in the game at pokemarket) makes it legit/legal?

11 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

For Gen 6 and 7, they’re thought to be sufficiently random and not linked between the different stats. It would not be detected illegal presently, if you don’t make any other weird changes.

So the PID serves only for determine if the pkmn is normal or Shiny?

8 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

While Gen 5 has some slight PID correlations, if a mon is caught/bred in Gen 5, there’s no PID to IV.

So.. In 6th and 7th gen is possible modify the IVS without conseguence to the mon legality? Fo example, if i caught a pkmn in Ultramoon with 2IVS and with Powersave (or other hack) upgrade to 6IVS the pkmn remain legal or become defected/hacked? Could be forming a conflict with PID?

15 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

We don’t operate under PowerSaves, so wouldn’t know for sure until we see an example of the changed file.

But do you agree with me about the not-connection between the ivs and the PID?
In your opinion what could be the cause?

Why the Shiny PowerSave code changes also the IVS? From gen 5 the PID is no longer linked to the IVS, so... why with this code the IVS they change? And what is the difference between a genuine Shiny and one generated with this PowerSave code?