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Thank-you very much everyone, for all of your help! Updating PkHex now allows those impossible Ribbons to be added without creating the 'Mystery Zone'. 

4 minutes ago, BlackShark said:

Are you using the latest version of PKHeX (20220301)? This should have been fixed a month ago https://github.com/kwsch/PKHeX/issues/3431

Oh, no I'm using 20220208! I'll update it. Thank-you! Ah yes the issue with Mystery Zone, hopefully that will fix it

12 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

Yes and no. You should keep a safe backup elsewhere before all the edits. Else you shouldn’t set over your one and only Pokémon.

what ribbons did you try to give them?

I'll do that in future thank-you! 

Originally I tried the Battle Frontier Ribbons that require online to complete. Multi Ability Ribbon, Pair Ability Ribbon & World Ability Ribbon. When they changed location from 'Kanto' to 'Mystery Zone', I then started testing.

On a pokemon with no ribbons to begin with, I gave all of Gen 3 ribbons which resulted in 'Mystery Zone'. I then tried adding just contest only ribbons, same result. When I undo the changes I've made, it doesn't change back to 'Kanto'. I am finding that anything I do regarding ribbons leads to the same result, changing from 'Kanto' to 'Mystery Zone'. 

I was curious if this would still happen if I use PkHex on a later generation game, like Black as an example. There isn't a lot of info online about 'Mystery Zone', but it does seem to be a gen 4 thing. 

 

6 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

Are the ribbons the only change you did? Do you have any unedited copies?

Yea only the ribbons.

Well I would select the Pokemon to edit, then after making changes I would set elsewhere so it creates a copy. Once I finished and it still had a green tick, I would then set over the original and delete the copy. I'm quite new to PkHex, is that right?

11 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

And if you take the edited mons and remove the ribbons, does it go back to normal?

I just tested this, and yes it still remains 'Mystery Zone' after removing all ribbons

10 hours ago, AlamosIT said:

Can you upload the Pokémon file?

Here are two uploads to show. Both Gastly came from FireRed & have been transferred to Ruby & Colosseum. I trade them back to FireRed as I wasn't sure if their bio would say 'from Kanto'. After sending them to HeartGold via Pal Park, they both showed 'from Kanto'. After adding the ribbons I mentioned, they are now from 'Mystery Zone' ingame.

I didn't earn all of the ribbons shown, I tried to understand the issue. So one Gastly only has Gen 3 ribbons, while the other has all legal ribbons.

092 - GASTLY - FD6B424A58D9 - Only Gen 3 Ribbons.pk4 092 - GASTLY - D2DE7BE9EFA6 - All Ribbons.pk4

15 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

I’ve yet to look at the Pokémon, but ignoring ‘mystery zone’ BS, what were their origin games? Location header in game follows origin games (if it’s a transferred mon)

FireRed was the origin game. And I can see that when I open up PkHex, it says from game FireRed, received via Pal Park. It all looks fine on PkHex, and looks fine ingame prior to using PkHex, but after adding the ribbons I mentioned it becomes 'Mystery Zone' instead of 'Kanto'

Hi all,

I have come across an issue while using PkHex, I assume I am doing something wrong so thought I'd reach out for assistance

Since all battle ribbons can not longer be obtained in Gen 3 due to servers being taken down. I thought I would add those few missing ribbons to my Pokemon. I bought my Pokemon forward to Gen 4 using Pal Park ingame. I can see it is from Kanto on the stat screen. Using PkHex I added in the N/A ribbons, and it stays legit; however now ingame it says it is from 'Mystery Zone Apparently met at'.

When I reload up on PkHex, it still shows it was met at Pal Park from Emerald, everything looks fine. But it certainly has changed ingame. Am I doing something wrong, or missing something? I tried googling about the 'mystery zone' and it seems to be a gen 4 thing. Will my Pokemon auto correct itself saying 'met in Kanto' when I move it to gen 5 and so on? or will it forever say 'mystery zone'?

1 minute ago, theSLAYER said:

they probably edit it through PKHeX.

Just because a mon is illegal doesn't mean the mon can't be used. Just because PKHeX flags it illegal doesn't mean it stops you from saving.
Sadly those punks probably just use PKHeX.

Ahhh, I see. Well I'd like to do it legally, so I shall follow advice given and really appreciate the information  Thank-you

3 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

I can't remember off the top of my head. If you were to search 6IVs, but not indicate any nature, see what shows up.

Given Pokefinder also filters the species entries by route and encounter slots, it may not be truly possible for every encounter to have 6IVs, which is another thing that would stand in your way.

Once again, I urge you to consider dropping flawless IVs.

Thank-you, I'll try to see if I can find a nature with 6IVs. 

How do modders/genners etc edit a pokemon to have 6IVs if it isn't through PkHex? When playing Sword & Shield, Pokemon are received via GTS with names like Machamps.com etc with 6IVs, advertising their service to edit. 

2 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

Wild encounters on older Gens have about only 6 possible natures for Flawless IVs.
I would imagine you're probably using one of the natures it can't possibly have (for flawless IVs).


A few alternatives:
- Just hyper train the mon (if the mon is physically in Gen 7 and above). Functionally 6IVs in battle.
- Hatch the mon, instead of using a wild encounter variant
- Not use mon's caught in Gen 3/4/8. For Gen 3/4 mons, many of them can be caught in other games.
- Give up on 6 flawless IVs. Have 1 or 2 of IVs be random. This would allow you to use other natures.
- Disable shininess. Find the PIDIV combo first, then find a corresponding TIDSID that would allow shininess (I think that's in the guide too)

Thank-you for your reply.

I truly dislike hyper training, wish I did because it would make it easier but I really don't like it ha. I feel like the odd one out, as I dislike shiny appearances too, so I'm not trying to have shiny in the editing. Just 6IVs.
 

What natures have flawless IVs in the earlier generations? I don't mind having the right nature, as that can be changed via a mint later on. IVs however, that is my focus on being flawless (the same as what I bred in the current generations). 

5 minutes ago, Atrius97 said:

This is not good advice. Manually altering the stats to all 31 using the batch editor will not work for Pokémon with a PIDIV correlation, which many encounters from Gen 3 and Gen 8 have. Editing them in this way without recalculating the PID (and potentially Height/Weight, EC, Nature, Gender, etc.) will cause it to become illegal. However, if they are Raid Den, Max Lair, or Legends Arceus wild encounters, PKHeX will not flag them despite them being illegal, which is worse because then you can't tell you've made an error without additional effort to reverse the seed.

Please disregard the advice to just "set them all to 6IV" and use the guides below:

 

Thank-you. I was already following this guide before posting, and am able to edit the save file of Heartgold to change the nature, and two of the six IVs to 31, but I can't change it to 6IV while being legal.

I'm only trying to alter/edit pokemon from earlier generations (bascially before destiny knot was introduced). I love breeding, and often breed perfect 6 IV pokemon in recent generations, but since that is impossible in earlier generations I thought I'd try PkHex. 

Is there a way to legally change a pokemon in earlier generations to have 6IVs?

7 hours ago, PLAFiles said:

Have you tried PokeFinder instead? Not sure if it will make a difference but it's way more updated than RNG Reporter last was.

 

https://github.com/Admiral-Fish/PokeFinder/releases/tag/v4.0.0

Oh I wasn't aware of PokeFinder, I'll try that thank-you

4 hours ago, ryuko2002 said:

Where do you want to keep the living dex? The actual game (FR, platinum, black, etc) or move it online to Pokémon bank/home. If it’s in the actual game I think you can get the living dex for that generation, then edit the IV with pkhex and set them all at 31.

if you want to move it to bank/home, this is what I would do:

Catch/breed the Pokémon of each generation on its game. Export the save game with pkhex and download/export the Pokémon in individual files.

Get your save game from SM/USUM and import the Pokémon from previous generations using pkhex.

use the script feature to set all IV to 31. I can’t remember the exact commands, but there are post on the forum to mass edit pokemons.

Upload them to bank (it will be free in one year, it’s $5 now), then move them to HOME

Catch/breed, then mass edit gen 8 pokemons, then upload to home

Certain pokemons are not available on sword/shield so Pokémon bank is a must.

I was planning to eventually move the living dex to Bank and Home. I believe I have all the necessary hardware to do this too, bascially trading via link cable, then Park Pal, Poke Transfer Lab etc until I have access to Bank, which is easy from there on.

I'm not familiar with using a script feature as you've suggested to mass modify all IVs, I should look into that more!

Thank-you for your post, I appreciate the assistance.

Hi all,

I'm completely brand new to PkHex, being a long time Pokemon player. I am completing a living dex, starting with FRLG, and working through every single generation game (OCD, but I want all to have me as OT and to be from the region they were first introduced).

Anyway, while doing this mission I was planning on 6IV breeding pokemon I like, however breeding is horrible/impossible to 6IV in older generations. I just started trying out PkHex, but can't seem to have any with 6IV following the RNG reporter. I know that players in Sword & Shield sending 6IV pokemon through GTS, so I felt there must be a way to change a pokemon to 6IV. Am I missing something, or is PkHex limited?

Thank-you for your time,

5 minutes ago, Poke J said:

Yes, if a Pokémon from a gen 1 virtual console game to a gen 2 virtual console game will still have the Game Boy icon since both of those gens use that symbol. The only visbale difference would be in the summary would say the Pokémon was from Jhoto instead of Kanto. Yes, adding ribbons to your Gengar that weren't in SM, USUM, and SwSh will make it illegal. As I stated when answering the second question this is because virtual console games can only connect with them selves and Bank.

That is the part I found interesting and confusing in that article. It seems to describe transferring a pokemon from VC gen 1, to a cartridge gen 2 game, and from there transferring to gen 3, then gen 4, gen 5, gen 6, gen 7 and finally gen 8. Meaning if that is true, the pokemon wouldn't be skipping SM, USUM etc and therefore be able to collect each gens ribbons while retaining the gameboy icon on the profile. 

1 hour ago, Poke J said:

That is possible and can be done with by changing what game it is from; however, I wouldn't recommend that since depending what generation you pick Pokémon can't have any random combination of PID, nature, gender, ability, and IVs and by time those values are less coupled you have already missed out on a lot of ribbons. Since you said your last Gengar didn't have a game icon and could have ribbons leads me to believe your Gengar originated from a gen 3, 4 or 5 game. I suggest getting a Gengar from a gen 3 game base your base since then it can get almost all of the ribbons.

Thank-you again for your reply

I just wish to confirm a detail please, I came across a guide for transferring a pokemon from gen 1 to gen 8, and it explains that apparently a VC gen 1 pokemon can be transferred to a cartridge gen 2 game via the Time Capsule. If this is true, then wouldn't that pokemon still retain the gameboy icon on their profile when taken to gen 8? If so, would adding ribbons to my current gengar in shield still be considered an illegal action?

Pokémon Transfer Guide - Smogon University

 

4 hours ago, Poke J said:

To answer your questions:

1) It really doesn't matter what generation of games the Gengar is sent to since PKHeX can add any ribbons that are available in that generation and from previous generations. However, it matters what game and generation the Pokémon is from. For example a Pokémon from gen 4 can not have gen 3 ribbons since any Pokémon from gen 4 games can not go to gen 3 games. Another example a Pokémon from Emerald can't have all ribbons from that gen since it didn't come from XD or Colosseum.

2) Yes, you can do that, but it will be illegal. Virtual console Pokémon can only have ribbons from SM, USUM, and SwSh at this point.

3) Technically no, but virtual console version is the only one that can legally go to Bank. Cartridge version of Red can only connect with gen 1 and 2, versus virtual console version of Red can connect with Bank to go to gen 7 and later gens.

4) Read my answer to question 2.

Thank-you very much for your reply! Very helpful.

It seems my current limitation is that my gengar is showing the gameboy icon, showing it is from a VC game. Can that be removed? (I believe that would then look like how my lost gengar would have looked, with no icon). Without the VC icon, it would then be legal to have previous generation ribbons, right?

Hi fellow players,

I have arrived here seeking assistance. 

I'm 36 and grew up playing each of the pokemon generation games, and recall spending a great deal of time collecting ribbons on my Gengar (far too much time now that I recall). Sadly, all of effort was lost and am trying to get back to where I was before. I no longer have a gamecube, gale of darkness, half of my cartridges etc. So obtaining the ribbons naturally is really out of the question.

I would love to have my gengar edited to once again have all of his ribbons. I am unfamiliar with editing/modding, however happy to learn or pay for a service. I have quite a few questions, as this is all new to me.

1) What generation game does gengar have to be in, in order to be edited? I recall ribbons started in gen 3. Does he need to be in each gen to obtain the specific ribbons of that gen, then move to a new gen a edit again etc?

2) Or can I send a gengar from virtual console red to bank, then home and have it edited then with the previous generation ribbons?

3) is there a difference between cartridge red gengar, and virtual console red gengar? 

4) I have a gengar in shield from virtual console red. Can he be edited to have all ribbons legally obtained from previous gen games?

Apologies for asking simple questions, and being unfamiliar with the process. Thank-you in advance for any assistance.