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    Pokemon Transporter Version 1.3 Rolled Out


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    With Poké Transporter, you can easily transfer any of your Pokémon using a single Nintendo 3DS system.


    An update for the popular app that transfers your Pokémon from Generation 5 games and Virtual Console: Generation 1 games has gone live!
    Preliminary reports indicate that for VC Gen 1 transfers, the erroneous shiny calculation has been rectified, and there are changes to gender determination.


    We will continue to update this page, as the story develops.
     

    Shiny Determination Source:
    https://twitter.com/wwwwwwzx/status/905344972819275776/

    It appears that shininess uses the original Gen 2 formula
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    Gender Source:
    https://twitter.com/wwwwwwzx/status/905350763689402368

    It also appears that gender is using original Gen 2 determination
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    and as a result, @SnorlaxMonster reported that with gender now being based on IVs, it's now impossible to get female Shiny 7:1 m:f Pokémon from VC.
    which affects ALL of the Pokémon with that ratio that are in Gen 1: Starters, Fossils, Eevee line, Snorlax.

    Gen 2 support not yet added
    https://twitter.com/wwwwwwzx/status/905370609877520384 https://twitter.com/wwwwwwzx/status/905355687537938432

     

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    Just now, jojo12100 said:

    Worst no Celebi, no changes in nature ivs. I repeat NO CELEBI !!!!!!!

    Now you can cry


    I don't expect Celebi to be transferable on launch anyway (LOL)

    Not until there's an event..

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    Just now, theSLAYER said:


    I don't expect Celebi to be transferable on launch anyway (LOL)

    Not until there's an event..

    So it will be the same shit as Mew in gen1. Maybe we'll have a good news if there's a crystal vc release

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    6 minutes ago, jojo12100 said:

    So it will be the same shit as Mew in gen1. Maybe we'll have a good news if there's a crystal vc release


    as much as I hated that limited event nonsense, I technically gained from it
    (since I had a trade ticket and my friend redeemed it for me)

    Though the European one was a bigger mess, since lucky draw -.-

    I prefer trade ticket > lucky draw.
     

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    eh the id for mew was the release date of pokemon red and green in japan so maybe the id of celebi if theirs an event will be the jap release date of gs im guessing the ot will still  be game freak and i don't think they are going to update transporter again just to allow celebi though so it may work on launch and you can use the coin case to change the id and ot. they have not added in gen 2 support so we don't know yet.

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    Adding on to that,
    XYORAS received a ゲーフリ Mew, with the TID 22796,
    and subsequently the VC Mew had the same OT and TID.

    However, I'll like to point out that the upcoming Celebi isn't "GF", but rather "Ilex",
    and even worse, it's TID has 6 figures. (Gen 2 can only have 5, so that alone may make coin case plan fail)

    At least we have 2 ways to tackle this now.
    Maybe use their old format and try 21119 as OT.

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    36 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

    Adding on to that,
    XYORAS received a ゲーフリ Mew, with the TID 22796,
    and subsequently the VC Mew had the same OT and TID.

    However, I'll like to point out that the upcoming Celebi isn't "GF", but rather "Ilex",
    and even worse, it's TID has 6 figures. (Gen 2 can only have 5, so that alone may make coin case plan fail)

    At least we have 2 ways to tackle this now.
    Maybe use their old format and try 21119 as OT.

    they still could also have an event one in gs vc as well they had a mew event in xy and oras and there was a vc one to

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    9 minutes ago, hacks said:

    they still could also have an event one in gs vc as well


    Yeah, the 21119 was referring perhaps an event they'll hold in VC GS ><

    I do hope so (and maybe they make it more accessible this time round)

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    2 hours ago, jojo12100 said:

    Worst no Celebi, no changes in nature ivs. I repeat NO CELEBI !!!!!!!

    Now you can cry

    Don't worry! Gen 2 VC support isn't even supported yet. The update is Gen 1 VC related.
    I'm glad they finally they fixed the Shiny issue! And finally Genders are determined as it's supposed to be.
    Also... I think it's good that Nature is still based on Experience and hope that it stays this way.
    Because this way it's easier to get the nature you want.
    Can't wait to see what's coming with the next update.

    It's way too early to give up on Celebii. And I agree with @theSLAYER, I don't want it to be a "lucky draw" event. 
    Because this again would limit the amounts of Event Pokemon that are distributed and we will have to pray that one of us is a lucky winner.
    So... I hope in case it's a local distribution, we will see an Event similar to how Mew was distributed in Japan. 
    Also I have to say... if there are Celebii Events coming we will have to preserve them anyway.
    It's likely that there will be hidden informations like trash bytes once again.

    Edit:
    Possibly even location data... wether or not they plan to release Crystal. 

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    yeah they could make it so certain country get the vc one and every one else just gets the one in there gen 7 game. so uk and japan get one in vc games just like mew.

    10 minutes ago, ajxpk said:

    Don't worry! Gen 2 VC support isn't even supported yet. The update is Gen 1 VC related.
    I'm glad they finally they fixed the Shiny issue! And finally Genders are determined as it's supposed to be.
    Also... I think it's good that Nature is still based on Experience and hope that it stays this way.
    Because this way it's easier to get the nature you want.
    Can't wait to see what's coming with the next update.

    It's way too early to give up on Celebii. And I agree with @theSLAYER, I don't want it to be a "lucky draw" event. 
    Because this again would limit the amounts of Event Pokemon that are distributed and we will have to pray that one of us is a lucky winner.
    So... I hope in case it's a local distribution, we will see an Event similar to how Mew was distributed in Japan. 
    Also I have to say... if there are Celebii Events coming we will have to preserve them anyway.
    It's likely that there will be hidden informations like trash bytes once again.

    they would not add gen 2 support this early because people can data mine it and find out the title id of vc gold and sliver then change there vc inject to the id and transfer early

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    25 minutes ago, hacks said:

    yeah they could make it so certain country get the vc one and every one else just gets the one in there gen 7 game. so uk and japan get one in vc games just like mew.

    they would not add gen 2 support this early because people can data mine it and find out the title id of vc gold and sliver then change there vc inject to the id and transfer early


    ^ that.
    I was hoping for that to happen. (well, not to transfer early, just wanted to know what the ID is gonna be)

    Also, if they don't split the VC 1 and VC 2 recognition properly,
    it may be possible to transfer up glitched pokemon (but the moves and typing and all probably need to be set correctly, tho)

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    10 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:


    ^ that.
    I was hoping for that to happen. (well, not to transfer early, just wanted to know what the ID is gonna be)

    Also, if they don't split the VC 1 and VC 2 recognition properly,
    it may be possible to transfer up glitched pokemon (but the moves and typing and all probably need to be set correctly, tho)

    I meant title id if they included support for it early people could just make a gold sliver vc inject with the title id and transfer pokemon early

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    3 minutes ago, hacks said:

    I meant title id if they included support for it early people could just make a gold sliver vc inject with the title id and transfer pokemon early


    Yeah, I know what you meant, and I totally considered doing that. (LOL)
    But that's probably another way to get your 3DS totally banned (like playing SM before release date lol)

    Then I moved on and talked about how people may be able to get missingno into Gen 7 as Johto Pokemon,
    if they decided to use only 1 type of transfer subroutine for VC games ><
     

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    Sine crystal has mainly the same save file structure im wondering if it would let you transfer from a crystal vc inject if you changed the tid of it to the same one as gold or sliver

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    1 hour ago, hacks said:

    Sine crystal has mainly the same save file structure im wondering if it would let you transfer from a crystal vc inject if you changed the tid of it to the same one as gold or sliver


    That's slightly incorrect: while there are significant data in Crystal's offsets that are different, the important thing is OT Name and Box 1 offset is the same.
    (Pokemon transporter display's OT Name before connecting to game, so that's important too)
    I say it'll depend on whether they decide to check other areas before opening the save to export.

    Another thing that I'll be more interesting in, is whether Pokemon Crystal's game ID will be accidentally released with VC GS.
    (which same as you mentioned, hackery-imports time)

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    Oh, I was wondering how were they gonna handle this once G2 VC was released. Good thing I've already got my shiny female G1 Umbreon.
    But, how is Kaphotics gonna handle this in PKHeX? Are my shiny female Eeveelutions gonna be flagged as illegal?

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    Assuming that the pk7 version will be gold or silver, we can ignore RGBY transfers for that check.

    I've already added a new commit to remove the old transporter handling, and added this shiny gender check :)

    It may have to be revised if RGBY<->GS happens, hope not.

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    1 hour ago, Kaphotics said:

    It may have to be revised if RGBY<->GS happens, hope not.

    You can be prepared for that. It's already confirmed that Gen1 VC <-> Gen2 VC connection will be supported. 

    But I think there is no problem to that.
    Legality wise every Pokemon that has been transferred to Pokemon Bank until this update (9/6/2017?) uses the old algorithm...And everything after uses the new algorithm...
    I think both methods should be in PKHeX and which one is used should depend on the date.  

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    1 hour ago, ajxpk said:

    Legality wise every Pokemon that has been transferred to Pokemon Bank until this update (9/6/2017?) uses the old algorithm...And everything after uses the new algorithm...
    I think both methods should be in PKHeX and which one is used should depend on the date.  

     

    Given 3DS date can be easily changed, that wouldn't be a reliable way to determine which algorithm was used. 

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    So the date depends on the time that's set in the 3DS? I didn't knew that. Thanks for the info. 
    I don't think that time manipulation is a good thing in terms of legality... but yeah this makes it really more complicated.
     

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    For legality, the only thing that matters is the limitation on female shiny 7:1.  PKHex could mark it as "Fishy" I suppose?

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    Certain traceback movesets are not possible without trading back and forth. The move parser flags trade back scenarios, so for rby transfers that flag can be checked.

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    19 minutes ago, Kaphotics said:

    Certain traceback movesets are not possible without trading back and forth. The move parser flags trade back scenarios, so for rby transfers that flag can be checked.


    I wasn't aware of the need to trade back and forth.  Can you give me a quick example?

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    16 minutes ago, Holla! said:

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    Ugh, this .-. a thousand Dittos to this. It's tedious as hell to move Pokémon between boxes in gens 1 and 2, I dobut it would've been that hard for them to just allow to transfer from all boxes.

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