Find__Tab

Hit. I was a foetus once.

Next person has a favourite childhood cartoon.

Snipin's a good job, mate!

Miss.

Next person is splurging on the Autumn Steam Sale.

Miss.

Next person has watched and enjoyed an Anime that isn't Pokémon.

miss

next person plays at least one FPS

Think about it, though: If Blissey didn't exist, how many physical moves would you even use?

From a "WE NEED TO FIX COMPETITIVE" standpoint, it makes sense to make special attacking moves weaker.

Of course, this means Blissey will probably be debuffed a bit to give her a bit less special defence. Maybe. I really have no clue at this point - Gamefreak is insane.

Oh, and if Pikachu is getting a buff, I REALLY hope Raichu does too. I don't want Raichu to become the worse evolution...

Shuckle needs some more HP, too. Right now he has less than a Sunkern.

Well. X and Y are out now, and there's some pretty interesting stuff.

First off, some of the older Pokémon are being retconned - not removed, just modified.

Garchomp's shiny is now a fabulous pink colour, instead of the boring virtually-the-same-colour shiny it was before.

More importantly though... older Pokémon are having their base stats revamped.

Here's a list:

Confirmed

Alakazam(more SpD)

Pikachu (Def/SpD)

Butterfree(SpA)

Reported

Wigglytuff (SpA)

Clefable(?)

Hey! I'm still waiting for my Y copy.

I wouldn't really say I enjoy artists or genres so much as I do specific songs...

That said, I'm a fan of quite a lot of Power Metal (primarily Symphonic)

So that'd be Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, Alestorm, Gloryhammer, and a few others.

I also enjoy trailer music (the kinds of songs you hear in movies) e.g Two Steps From Hell, Audiomachine, Brunuhville

A few electronic things, such as Aviators, Machinimasound, Atpunk

And finally some 'classics' that've sprouted up over the years - most of which are in the 90's, but a few 80's and 2000's as well.

I'll listen to pretty much anything, even rap if it's done well (although it's usually only "done well" if it's part of a mashup, hehe).

Remember when I said that weather abilities

I'm just going to ask... There's been a lot of information leaked, but none of it is "official". They're all pretty much true, though. Final Evo of the starters, some new Pokémon (including that one luchador bird that was confirmed) and some other stuff. Are we going to talk about them or are we going to only talk about the "official" stuff (to avoid spoilers and other similar things?).

Sorry about that Wraith. I didn't get an answer before so I just decided to roll with it. Edited and spoilered.

Will try and keep that in mind in the future.

Anyways, there's been a

I'm going to try and go through the games as I did as a kid - blindly and choosing Pokémon based on their name and looks.

Of course, since I've already seen the starters... I'm going to have to go with Chespin. He's just so adorable, and a grass/fighting that isn't Breloom is really appealing to me.

Welp, after seeing the starters final evo's I have to say that all of them are REALLY ugly except Froakie. Going with Froakie now.

At least water/dark is a cool type, I suppose.

Hit.

The next person prefers ninjas to pirates.

I'm just going to ask... There's been a lot of information leaked, but none of it is "official". They're all pretty much true, though. Final Evo of the starters, some new Pokémon (including that one luchador bird that was confirmed) and some other stuff. Are we going to talk about them or are we going to only talk about the "official" stuff (to avoid spoilers and other similar things?)

I mean, I'm not sure if everyone here would be okay with the starter's final evos being ruined for them, although I'm personally okay with it.

EDIT: Waiiiiit. So apparently this leaked information is from Canada, where it's supposedly already been released?

Yeah, this stuff is official then. Will PO or Showdown or whatever comes next be soon, then? I'd be interested in seeing the meta.

hit, sorry

next person had a favourite childhood stuffed toy

What I'm saying is releasing for the 3DS is a smart move.

Obviously. I'm just not sure it'll be the main platform for the game's usage.

I never mentioned releasing on the Wii or DS so I don't know what you're talking about.

Sorry, some other guy did earlier in the thread, iirc. I was referring to that.

I don't really see what is so hard about having online tournaments. Sony and Microsoft have been doing it for ages. We even had Pokemon online tournaments officially organized by Nintendo that counted to VGC.

Online tournaments certainly aren't impossible - they just aren't common. Maybe they would've been more common if Smash had a half-decent system when it came to online play, but as it was, it could often get unplayable because of the lag.

Maybe that's why, but I'm not sure if they'd have that many 'online tournaments' even then. Online games were mainly practice for "legitimate" tournaments which were played in person. Less lag, less input issues, more fair, easier to have a ruleset... it's just better to play in person.

Even if it isn't competitive, if you're doing a tournament with commentary, e.g. runawayguys, you'll need to be in person for it to be successful. That means Wii U over 3DS. If you're playing with real-life friends, you'll much prefer Wii U over 3DS. 3DS will be bought just as much, don't get me wrong, but I see the 3DS version as a game to play in the car, or, to put it simply, as a "portable" game. That's perfectly fine, but I see the Wii U version getting played much more often even if it sells less.

I know Smash is a game you play with people, but there's no reason you can't both have a viable person-to-person multi-player game AND a good online setup too.

Not arguing otherwise.

There's certainly advantages to Smash on Wii U, I'll grant you that. But my only point is the U has horrible sales and I really don't know if the whole "people will buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games" logic will continue to own up.

I think it will. That's how it's worked forever - brand value is almost always put above quality.

Again, there's 27 million more people with a 3DS. Why in the world would they buy a $250 console and a $60 game when they could buy one $40 game?

Smash isn't the only "to buy" game being made for Wii U. I feel like people forget that a lot.

On a side note, holy doodley. Toon Link has been confirmed, people! I think I said he wouldn't be in, because of the Minish Cap stage, although I can't really remember. If so, I'm sorry for my mistake! He looks to be the same as in Brawl, but it's hard to tell because they're only pictures. The physics system will change the characters more than the movesystem ever could, too. I'm actually pretty glad he's in, though. He might be a "clone" character, but out of all of them he's my favourite clone. Unless we're counting Wolf, but he's not a goddamn clone. If you say he is then I hate you.

Is this a Mega Man stage? Looking at the cannon and the floor I think it is, although I'm not entirely sure.

Miss. I don't think college counts. Or does it?

Next person is going to reply to this with "Miss". hehe

I'd still prefer it as a psuedo-status affect. Like Attract or Confusion or something to use on water types.

Sure, it'd be largely useless, but at least it wouldn't destroy the very fundamentals of battling.

Ugh. I don't know why this annoys me so much. The other things at least made sense. Mega Evolution Pokémon are silly, but at least it has something to do with evolving. Which is, obviously part of Pokémon.

This though? No.

On a side note, GameFreak have confirmed in an interview that there will be /no/ generation 6 Megavolutions. At all. This means not every starter will get a mega evolution (as was rumoured). It's probably just going to be used as a novelty that feeds off nostalgia, not that there's anything wrong with that of course. So it'll largely be Gen 1/2/3 Pokémon that get the megavolutions, although probably some gen 4 and very few gen 5s.

But why on earth would they make THIS move super against water?

You may as well slap 'electric' onto the typing. Having a type suddenly super effective against something it's not meant to be just makes the entire type-system pointless. Either change the whole type or none of it.

Scald makes sense. Sure, burning is a little weird, but it's still a status effect.

This, on the other hand? You may as well just call it a new type - I really hope this is a one off (or they change the entire type to be SE against water, of course) or this will really be a sour aspect of the new game for me.

The new fossil Pokémon look great! I love them.

I hate to be negative nancy again but Freeze Dry? I don't really like it, although this might be because of how vague the description is.

Is Ice being retyped to be SE against Water?

Is it just this move?

Could this be the rumoured 'dual-type' move?

Assuming it's just this move, I still don't like it. Yeah, I get that it's to add more competitive-ness, but why not just give the current Pokémon a new move? Why re-type ice solely for this move and throw the entire concept of Pokémon's battle system out the window? Surely it wouldn't be that hard to add a new Electric move or something?

And ugh, dual-typed moves would be interesting, but so confusing. Confusing to the point that I really don't want it.

...Ice being retyped to be super-effective against water, however, is an idea I can really get behind. I hope that does happen - ice needs some buffs. So does Poison, actually. And Bug. ...And Fire. And Rock.

In fact, pretty much every type that isn't Ground, Steel, Fighting, Water or Dragon needs a buff... mainly Ice and Poison though!

Hell 'naw. Power Metal is the way to go. (Preferably Symphonic, thanks).

Next person prefers physics to biology.

Find__Taab is completely off base about Wii U. That console has been spectacularly failing worldwide. It's been out for a year with few games people actually want to play, has only comparable graphics to current gen gaming, and lots of people think it is just some sort of Wii add on. And on top of that, it is going up against PS4/XBone in December and will likely get clobbered.

There's 30+million 3DS owners out there and that's a good incentive for them to start releasing good ports to the 3DS.

I'll wait and see with Smash. If it doesn't play well on the handheld, I won't buy it.

Hah, does that really matter though?

On the "what console it plays" subject, why on earth would they put it on the Wii? They're guaranteeing Wii U sales with the game - putting it on the Wii or DS would be a terrible idea.

As for the other issue, think about what smash predominantly is - a multiplayer game. Sure, more people have a 3DS, but you need every friend to have a 3DS to play with each other - you only need one Wii U. Not to mention that the Wii U version will inevitably play better just because of the larger screen size (and the more precise hitboxes/whatever else). For both a friendly party version and a competitive tournament game the Wii U version is far superior to the 3DS version.

Think about Mario Kart, as a rough example. The handheld versions are great, arguably with better controls. But all you can really do is have a quick match every now and then - it's much more of a single player game because of the limitations. Sure you can go on wifi, but you can't get a real tournament set up for it - or if you can, it'll be a lot harder to manage than one on a console. Both in real life and online.

People will still buy the 3DS version of course, but now that Subspace is gone there isn't really much of a reason to buy it over the Wii U. If you don't want to buy a Wii U then sure, but if you have both platforms... why would you buy the 3DS version? I don't see it.

Smash is both a party and a fighting franchise - for those reasons alone the Wii U version will be the more popular game. (I'm not even going to go into how annoying setting up competitive tournaments with the 3DS screens would be).

Miss. Eugh.

Next person wants to make love to Mega Garchomp's chin.

- stuff about ice-

I just think there needs to be a Mega | Non-Mega separate metagame. Period.

Are they seriously promoting MMX using GIGA IMPACT of all moves? Really Gamefreak?

You got that right. They really messed up with the 'defensive ice' thing. I still feel like that's because of a lack of moves (and stats) rather than the typing, though. Imagine Walrein with a restoration move like Recover. Mega/Non Mega metagame will happen, pretty sure. It's just a question of whether or not both will be used, and which will be considered the "main", official metagame. Y'know, for tournaments and things. Speaking of, will Mega Items be allowed on Wifi?

And MMX is the 'physical' one. From a competitive standpoint it's pretty silly, but it makes sense. Giga Impact is considered 'stronger' than anything else (e.g. Close Combat, Zen Headbutt) to non-

competitive players. (I'm deliberately avoiding the term 'casual' because I hate that word).

-edit- Now that I think about it... while it won't be banned, the metagame will most certainly have two separate tiers; one with and one without. Think about 5th gen DW/Wifi. Wifi was always the predominant metagame. I expect the Mega Pokémon tier to be the less-played variant, just because it doesn't change the metagame as much. If that's the case it may as well be banned - sure, people will play it, but eh...