jojo12100

Here's some developpers test Pokemon from FRLG and Emerald.

I wanted to get E-reader test options to work in Proto Emerald like in German Ruby Debug but I forgot how to do, if anyone can help me. Pretty sure there are hidden secrets there!

Source: https://tcrf.net/Proto:Pokémon_Emerald/Test_Menu

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On 5/9/2020 at 1:34 PM, Schnell said:

Hi @jojo12100,

I left the franchise after Gen3's incompatibility with Gen2, but came back for Gen5. Have a break and you might come back.

I found 5 Underleveled Pokemon post-game outside of the Wild Area. Wish I'd known as well before progressing through the game.

Corviknight Route 7, Drapion Route 8, Jellicent Route 9, Wailord Route 9, Vanilluxe Route 10.

Is there more on your list outside of the Wild Area?

Here's my list for Gen8 before DLC:

corviknight lv36 route 7*
wailord lv39 route 9
vanilluxe route 10 lv45
jellicent lv39 route 9
drapion lv38 route 8
butterfree lv7 rolling fields
ninjask rolling fields lv15*
diggersby lv14 north lake miloch*
nuzzleaf lv7 rolling fields* shield
quagsire lv15 west lake axewell*
lanturn bridge field lv26
hippodown lv26 giant's mirror*
golurk lv40 watchtower ruins
rhydon lv40 dusty bowl
glalie lv40 watchtower ruins
lombre dappled grove lv13 shield
toxicroak lv28 stony wilderness shield

Cannot be apparently obtained: gothorita giant cap lv29 sword

DLC have some very interesting too:

Palossand lv32

Toxapex lv20

Malamar lv26

Talonflame lv32

Volcarona lv42

Braviary lv26

Amoonguus lv26

Scrafty lv26

Crustle lv26

Drapion lv22

Drifblim lv26

Crawdaunt lv26

Whishcash lv13

Sharpedo lv16

Octilley lv13

Quagsire lv20

Kingler lv20

Alolan Marowak lv15

Magneton lv26

Poliwhirl lv20

Golduck lv26

Toxicroack lv26

Mandibuzz lv26

Dragalge lv40

15 hours ago, Qaaz said:

Sorry for the late response, hope you didn't actually stopped. I don't see it as stupid, as you say the snapped moves simple don't work because for example Unown are not in the game but when Gen 4 remakes come out Unown are in and so Hidden Power. When I posted this I didn't have the full picture so now I agree with you that are now necessary as  if I have a Unown on Home they will have the Hidden Power and it will work on next game.

As for the Go lvl 1 mons yes its something that I already have considered myself

Hope to see you around. Don't stop just because of Dexit 

I forced myself to play SwSh regardless of Dexit but I realized I can't get any underleved of these games now Wild area Pokemon are all level 60. So yes I'm done with the franchise.

I began a list of underleved in SwSh tell me if you want I release it or not.

Also Nincada can't be obtained anymore in Go, yeah good job Niantics!

@Starf Berry What a nice collection, too bad some are shiny locked (GSC Rapidash for example). Technically you can get shiny in-game trade from Japanese versions and transfer them. At least you should try.

@Qaaz Actually I don't think it's a really interesting thing to do for underleved, maybe we should make a list of moves exclusive to Let's Go, it could be great. The reason is technically the moves don't disappear they are just not usable. That thing give me hope to be allowed to transfer purify Pokemon to Home (and maybe Go exclusive moves).

I'd love we finally find an easiest way to get lv1 Ninjask, Luxio, Luxray, Klang, Klingklang from GO but I personnally gave up.

Note that with the recent politics of GF I'm gonna leave the franchise soon, I can't tolerate what they have done. Really sad they destroyed our franchise like that. Sorry to let so much mysteries unsolved.

I have updated the list with the recent changes:

-Regigigas lost Avalanch,

-New shadow mons (note that we still don't know if we'll be able to tranfer purified Pokemon to Home)

 -New moves for old Pokemon.

On my side I gave up with the Shinx/Nincada families.

I hoped too much for Nincada last week during the Montreal event.

And now I even struggle to see any wild Litwick/Deino or Ferroseed.

Not counting the Mime Jr case in 5km eggs in Europe and the recent cluster changes I'm gonna leave soon I think.

Can't enjoy that mess anymore.

I saw that, such a shame, I'm starting collecting gen5 lv1.

I updated with all 7 upcoming new exclusive moves from Unova Pokemon I found + 4 "rare" others.

Tell me if I forgot one.

High chances they'll patch for most of them but for example Earthquake Bonsly is still a thing today.

9 hours ago, Jollygator said:

Is there any research still going on in this?

Not for the moment unless we found the cardriges used for.

@BlackSharkfound in game text mentions about Hoenn Pokemon in hidden grotto which is a discovery but that's all we can do for now.

I have to share you that huge discovery: a Japanese ad for Pokemon Colosseum showing it at a very early stage.

We can see Wes without Rui, snatching a Typhlosion, battling a Blastoise with its Umbreon, having a Castform in its team (probably the shadow cut one), we can hear 2 exclusive and cut musics from the game.

I'd love to get that version in hands one day.

@Poke J I'm pretty sure we'll find other evidences like this in future. Just remember debug Emerald Relicanth. Thank you so much for your scan.

Anyway I also asked ChickasaurusGL to investigate about Stadium 2 new debugger menu especially the legality checker inside it.

So much secrets still hiding it's really exciting ^^

11 hours ago, Knoxyz said:

Any news about this or the XY Demo?

Not at my knoweldge,

Nintendo seems to be more concerned with the demo recently but not retroactively.

I visited 2 months ago the french national video game conservatory and unfortunately they don't have any of them too.

I should however ask them again for FireRed manuel guide if nobody have it now.

Whereas I think we'll get one day RS/FRLG/BW demos because they were in cardriges and collectors will get them one day I'm not very confident for XY demo as it was a downloaded programm.

But if you want to investigate you're welcome,

I really miss time to do more sorry.

@theSLAYERI think we won't speak about shiny Volcanion exclusive to TCG. Unless ...

I come back for two news I recently got:

-first the discovery of a new debug mode for Stadium 2 which includes a Pokemon editor with a legality check. The Odd Egg events failed. It could be interesting to see if it's the case for other gen2 event pokemon or even find the legality list somewhere in the ROM.

-second I recently learned that in European FireRed manual guide there is a picture of a Charmander not from Pallet Town (probably used by the debuggers). Can anyone scan it here please?

@Hello, it's me!You have to make a difference between the developper/beta test wondercards from the ones for everyone.

What was found is a test for a public release but just think about the Azure Flute:

It was planned and not released for Platinum but developper/beta test was found in Ranger demo!

Another famous one is still mysterious: the Lock Capsule.

Planned for BW but never released because of ??? they gave us a Zoroark instead and we still haven't find any developper/beta wondercard yet.

I learned today that a proto-Pokemon Colosseum was planned for Nintendo 64DD in 1999 developped by GF itself called Pocket Monsters RPG.

It was probably scrapped not only because of Masuda opinions about the franchise that should stay portable but also probably because of GS delay.

I first thought it was about Pokemon Stadium but apparently Miyamoto stated they were 3 64 games planned during an interview (which I really want to find now).

Edit: Found something( original and translated ) and it's way more interesting than all I was expecting!

Edit 2: According to IGN Stadium was planned to have a 64DD update, probably the difference betwen the first Japanese release and the International one?

10 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

edit: Took me a while to find it. It was field debug (overworld R+X buttons) > Ono (IIRC option is all the way at the bottom) > Delivery debug (second option from top).

In any case, here's a save with the mons right before they're collected.
When collected on a final DP game, what is received is a 2x Bad Eggs and 1 Manaphy egg.)

Based on my tests, the corrupted eggs are the reason why debug DP crashes.
When I remove those 2 wonder cards, the Manaphy egg that followed right after was able to be redeemed.

Here's a save from before the 3x eggs were collected. The debug wondercards can also be seen using PKHeX.
debug wondercards.sav

(I loaded a Complete Dex Save into the debug game, then used the debug menu to get the deliveryman, then saved into it)

I think the bad eggs issue is the same as the German Ruby Debug version.

We have to find the correct PID in order to make them work.

I have no idea on how to do it however as I didn't resolve the first issue.

Edit: MysteryGiftEditor gives me a Zubat but with a lot of datas missing.

As promised here's my results from my studies about unused held items:

As you can see a lot of unused held items are just leftovers from their previous evolutions but few can catch our attention.

I suggested theories for most of them but I'm open to add yours too!

Plus I have no idea for few of them.

Here's the link, apparently the note was from a certain SodaDog on July 9th 11:50

In terms of investigations I noticed this mention in TCRF:

"Pokémon: Let's Go! Pikachu & Let's Go! Eevee has unused data for held items and double wild battles."

but also

The Pokémon Stadium games have more debug features, or at least debug leftovers.

Plus, I'll focus soon about XD shadow moves list but I want to investigate about the unused Dragonite (based upon its catch rate change) in Yellow and the Unused Pokémon Flight in Gold/Silver.

NIce @SwagKey

I tested SwSh demo recently in Japan Expo and noticed very interesting things,

the fact that the Pokemon came from Route 1 first meaning they didn't want to reveal the start place or it's the place you receive your starter,

the Fairy Dynamax that puts the Misty Terrain,

the date put into the pokemon 1st June 2019 is very interesting too as it's surely the build date,

apart that I have mixed feelings about it, lots of lags, cheap supporters, not very convincing water effects, awesome music,

about the dynamax mechanic the strategy will be to temporize it with Detect, Protect or any bulky Pokemon,

I easily beat the gym leader like that,

hope they'll release the demo in the E-shop later in order to study it.

So thanks to @theSLAYER I was able to correctly import Shadow Loudred however when I tried to purify it it lost all its move and the same occured for the shadow Carvanha found in the same box.

Our theory is that there must be a shadow list somewhere in the ROM that gives the moves to the shadow Pokemon.

Finding that list can teach us how does it work in XD and maybe finally find the original attacks of that Shadow Loudred and Carvanha (if they exist in that final list or if we find a beta list somewhere else; note that we could find other beta/cut shadow pokemon in the process).

Any idea or any XD specialist?

Good news everyone today we got a debug Diamond version.

Unfortunately apart the starters which are already contributed in the site somewhere else nothing interesting (in my opinion).

Will share in public the XD Extra Shadow discovery in order to enlight it and maybe find someone to purify that Shadow Loudred.

Actually Pokemon Home can be a good thing or a bad one depending on how lazy they'll be.

In a way I want they allow Pokemon to keep their Go moves into Pokemon Home (and seriously none of the exclusive moves will break the meta) and in another I want they fix this mess-up with underleved.

Wait and see but I keep all my Go exclusive moves and work hard on underleved. Now I'll surely need a hacked Switch to contribute but we have time until that.

I have to upgrade the list with the Snorlax event and CD. I already added Earthquake Gastrodon.

Here the Funfiesta exclusives thanks to @theSLAYER

We learn that the event set their level at 15 minimum.

Didn't change their dates as we don't know how legitimate they can be compared to the real ones.

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