Oxnite

Why are your Pokémon hack threads stickied, if I may ask? Are they more important than others?

I don't really mind yet it doesn't seem right.

Oh i just noticed this one, will look into soon as i play a little White Deluxe

That's nice, but please remember that this version cannot be played after Hearthome City because it has several bugs that I couldn't edit due to scripting issues..

I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but hey, that's why I started Pokémon Black & White Deluxe and I'm sure they're just as fun!

yeah i levelled it again and it still didn't evolve

Most of the Pokémon that evolve by holding an item only evolve during day - I guess it's evening where you live, so try again tomorrow!

hey has anyone got some advice for me, im at some cave at the moment and im currently working my way through defeating the team plasma there. all their pokemon are around level 48 and they each have 3, and the levels of my team are 45, 43, 42, 41, 41, 39 and im having some trouble with them. is there somewhere i can train so that everyone is around level 45?

thanks

I think you are currently at Chargestone Cave, is that right?

Now that you have obtained HM Surf, did you already go to Route 17 and 18? They can be found by Surfing at Route 1.

There are also many other Trainers to beat at Route 3, Wellspring Cave and Mistralton Cave - just search around Unova for water surfaces!

Ow, then I think i'm going to use the GTS negotiations to find the right pokemon.

I'm not going to to choose Gligar, Trapinch, Drilbur, or something like that, because I already have a ground type (Marshtomp).

Sure! I think it would be great if you'd search for a Scraggy to keep it ''fair'' (because it will be available in newer betas) so I can keep your progress as a measure, but of course it's your own choice. =)

That sounds pretty good Oxnite, I do like the idea of finding new Pokemon in Iccirus.

Nice to hear! I'll really try to release a newer beta soon.

I've got much trouble with defeating burgh, but just got a great idea. In route 4 you can get Scraggy right? Well, that is actually a great counter for power gem! Now I'll just have to find it and train it.

Actually, if I recall correctly.. You can not find Scraggy on Route 4 in this game. However, it can be found at the Desert Resort.

I will add Scraggy to Route 4 in the next beta, though. In the next beta, some areas will be updated because I think more people would like to catch Scraggy, Phanpy etc. early instead of Burmy. Sorry for the inconvenience.

However, you can still think about catching:

- Gligar, who learns Acrobatics at level 27

- Trapinch or Drilbur, who are both resistant to Power Gem

I have a question to all of you, lol.

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However, it seems that he didn't update his Pokémon White Deluxe version to 0.6 because he battles Winona with her old team and several other bugs (her name is still Skyla - it was like that even in version 0.5, which might be weird to know, lol).

Does any of you have a YouTube account? You should

Also, I have another request: somebody commented that Winona has bad English (which actually isn't true because in beta 0.6, Winona's text closely resembles her R/S/E text, lol). However, if you find text that has been changed, and you notice a spelling or grammatical error in it, please tell me because my mother language is NOT English!

I thought for hacks and such they still had one, so you could use cheats and what not.

I think you can still use the (original) Pokémon White cheats in Pokémon White Deluxe. But only if you really want to use cheats... Because the purpose of a beta is to play the game without cheats to see if everything can be finished, done and beaten with the available resources.

Thanks very much for adding the patch programing stuff in .6 beta now I can finally play and check it out

No problem! Would you like to let me know what you think of the game? I would really appreciate it.

Still not goen into the mountain yet, spreading out this play. Not to be rude I hope, but can you tease as to some of the things we might expect in 0.7? Te game looks and feeels great so far

Thanks a lot for the compliments, Robbie. Well, it's better to delay your Twist Mountain adventure because there's nothing to do in the beta afterwards.

0.7 will of course have the next gym included. It will still be an Ice-type Gym.

In the beta, you can also play through Route 8 and Moor of Icirrus, and find some cool trainers and items there. Also, the Pokémon you can find in the puddles change drastically each season. In spring, enjoy the view of tiny and young tadpoles swimming around, while in summer, swans and frogs can be found on the water surfaces. During autumn, the swans have fluttered off to warmer areas and the amount of frogs is slowly diminishing, too. However, when wintertime starts, you can start looking for ice Pokémon in the water and also search for a cool water-Pokémon that's more easily found during winter!

After you have beaten the 7th Gym, you can visit Dragonspiral Tower and meet up with some cool new Dragon-type Pokémon. After that, you return to the (basement of) Relic Castle and have some chit-chat with several Gym Leaders in Nacrene City, including our good old friend Brock!

I have no time to work on it the coming two weeks, I'm afraid.. A new beta will probably be released at the end of November, or maybe later.

What is the game code for this hack?

What do you mean exactly?

If you're talking about an official code each official game has;

this game doesn't have one, as it is an (unofficial) hack.

I shall take it slow. Anything I should look out for in Twist Mountain?

I guess.. not. I only added TM Quash to the mountain, I hope you can find it!

They were all difficult in a fun way. And to clarify, I wasn't accusing you of stealing whatsoever.

Hehe, no problem, I completely understand!

Anyway, it's Twist Mountain for now I guess? After that, you'll have to wait for a newer beta I'm afraid, so take it slow..

Nvm guys, I was using the kernel from R4DS, but I tried wood kernel and everything is working fine.

That's great, let me hear what you think of the game after a while. =)

Yeah, just beat her. Hmm, 1-6 you say? On my scale, 1 is hardest, 6 is the easiest. This is all relative, considering some of the overworld/cave trainers are just as hard, anyways.

6) Burgh - After the initial shock of the Trio, and then the SECOND SPOILERS GYM LEADER, Burgh was a nice change of pace. You know what you were getting with him, as far as typing was concerned. My Woobat and Pignite (at the time, both of which have evolved) took it without much difficulty

5) 2nd Gym Leader (or 4th, if we are being technical) - Lombre definitely helped here.

4) Elesa (?) - Electric. Surprisingly, she was not as difficult as she was in the Vanilla version.

3) Cilan and Friends - It was a shock at first getting used to a triple battle style of gym, but it was not too bad.

2) Clay - He was pretty nasty, but nothing I couldn't handle

1) Winona - I really, really liked your idea of giving them Smogon (I think, did you use it?) teams including items. A Yache Berry on Altaria? A Flame Orb on Swellow with Facade. All effective. Tropius and Skarmory weren't too difficult, but it was very good overall. Can't wait for the rest of the gym leaders

Thanks a lot for this, it's so much fun to read.

Well, I wouldn't call it ''Smogon'', I rather call it a more competitive-way of battling.. Nor did I steal those sets from Smogon, it's more like.. ''common sense'' to give a Swellow Guts and Flame Orb if you want to make it difficult. =D

About the Gyms, do you think any of them was TOO hard, or were they difficult in a fun way?

I have an R4 flash card and a regular nintendo DS. I patch the ROM just find, and transfer it to my card. Then, I boot up, select this game to play, and it just hangs on a white screen. It does this with the Pokemon BlazeBlack I try to play too. The ROMs check out and are validated by that tool before I apply the patch. Then I apply it and it applies successfully. I go to play game and it hangs at white screen.

If you have a white screen, you might try to edit the saving type for once. It might help. I'm not sure how to exactly change the save type of your game, but in the R4 menu, you have to select a certain button (something like SELECT or Y) and then press the left / right buttons to select another save type.

After testing every save type, if it still doesn't work, try making use of Wood R4. I have included a complete user's guide. It works for me.

Oh you sly bugger. Swellow is a right nightmare.

OMITTED SWEAR WORDS

My card froze up against Altaria. I got luck on Swellow by freezing it. Tropius was not too hard. Darn it.

Haha, that's too bad, but cool to read nonetheless! So far, by chance, could you create a ranking with hardest Gym leader first place, easiest Gym leader last place (ranking from 1 to 6, since you're currently at the 6th Gym)?

Did you eventually manage to defeat her?

But I want the Dream World Darmanitan...

Yeah, then you'll have to wait until you have defeated Burgh.. Hehe.

Have you already beaten him by now?

I'm having a lot of problems with the 3rth gym, my Staravia is my only hope but he can't defeat Pinsir and Vespiquen because they have power gem. The problem of hacks that are made harder is TM's. At the point of the game where I am I only have a couple of TM's but the gym leaders already have stuff like power gem. I think I'm going to import Toxic into my game and use it to defeat the gym.

But anyway, maybe you should make more TM's available in the shop inside the Pokémon Center.

Good point. However, even though Burgh is very hard (I thought so too, but I had no Pignite or Combusken), I think you should be able to defeat him eventually (try training a Fire type if you don't already have one).

About the TMs, well yeah, I could do that but I don't think I will. On the other hand though, I could delevel some Trainers when I do a final playthrough (or lose some of their items, for example the Power Gems).

Oxnite, a question. What program do you use to edit wild pokemon locations? If you use a tool? And if so, does it also let you edit Pokemon Levels?

In the ROM Research & Development section, you can find an amazing amount of incredible tools, for example the Wild Pokémon Editor. So yes, I use a tool, and it lets you edit the Pokémon's levels.

I get invalid input checksum when trying to patch. How do I fix?

Be sure that the original Pokémon White rom that you're patching is UNPATCHED (which means it should not have any patches, not even the anti piracy patch or anything; just the original, unedited White rom).

- In the Celestial Tower, can the following five items be found: , Cleanse Tag, Spell Tag, and TM Ally Switch?

Cleanse Tag - Yes

Spell Tag - Yes

Ally Switch - Yes

I believe that is all the questions from this beta answered? Also, if you are taking suggestions for the E4, I have one. Given how much more challenging this game, and that there is a focus on status effects and whatnot, I suggest having a certain Poison Type E4 member. He could be pretty hard, especially with a good Ariados and Crobat for example.

Thank you for answering the questions! It really helped!

How did you edit the overworlds actually? I really need to know because this is the biggest problem I'm having with my hack.

But anyway, you could make the E4 really epic, with maybe... I've got the a great idea but it probably is really hard to do:

When you go to an E4 member you can choose witch E4 member to fight, I mean that there two E4, then there are a total of eight E4 members, waiting for you and you can choose witch four you want to battle and in witch order. It also makes the battles a bit easer because you can choose the ones you've the most advantage over.

About both of you and RobbieNewton's E4 suggestions..

@Robbie, it would be cool if I could add a Poison-type E4 but it doesn't really fit one of the room surroundings.

@TheKrosver97, it would be even cooler to add thát, but it's impossible as of yet. All the additional E4 members need their own rooms and they all need a lot of scripts etc.. In other words; it's currently impossible.

However, I've got some great new ideas worked out - but thanks anyway for the suggestions!

- Can TM Psych Up be found on Route 18? - Yes

- On Route 7, when you're standing right in front of the Celestial Tower and walk to the right, there's a dead end with an item. What item can be found there? - Black Sludge

- In the Celestial Tower, can the following five items be found: TM Shadow Claw, Cleanse Tag, Spell Tag, TwistedSpoon and TM Ally Switch?

Twisted Spoon - Floor 2, Right Side Item Ball

Shadow Claw - Floor 2, Left Side Item Ball

- Can TM Psych Up and TM Trick Room be found on Route 18? If so, where can TM Trick Room be found? - From the lab, go down to the grass, fight Scientist Nathan, then pick up the Pokeball. Psych Up was also found, though I can't remember where

- Can both DeepSeaTooth (yes) and DeepSeaScale (yes) be found around Route 17? What about a Dragon Scale--in this game, it should NOT be there.

- What can be found inside P2 Laboratory just after Route 18? - I am not sure what the laboratory is, but I just found a building with lots of tech in it, and a Shiny Stone

In terms of spreading, I quite like the spread we have so far, it's a nice mix. I got that one item, aam now going to the Routes to level up some. My team right now also includes Pinsir. Now that the Route 17, 18 and P2 are done, back to the Celestial Tower. I always felt that the bell up top was the bell from Crystal. Anyways, I am most looking forward to seeing who the Elite Four are.

Thank you! Concluding from this, I guess the Dragon Scale cannot be found on Route 17 - Route 18 anymore.

I'm happy that both DeepSea Items can be found there, though.

Could you maybe tell me whether you found Cleanse Tag, Spell Tag and TM Ally Switch at the Celestial Tower? Thanks a lot.

Hehe, yeah, the E4 will be surprising, I guess!

- Can TM Round be obtained at the Castelia City Battle Company (the company with all the clerks)?

There was a guy talking about it but he didn't give it. Maybe I already talked to him in the previous version.

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Hmm.. That's weird. RobbieNewton had the same problem.

I'll have to look further into it myself.. But I can only do that when I play this game for a second time, so this will probably be fixed during a final revise - which means it will be fixed as late as the final release.

Just sitting down to it now. Celestial Tower, since I am there, then I will do the Routes

Can't wait!

Update; thanks a lot for answering the questions below, it really really helps, thank you!!

Ah, I thought it was merely a suggestion. Yeah, I did struggle getting through chargestone cave. Levelled up my Swoobat and Emboar quite some bit. Anyways, I have added a Pawniard to my team and think I will dump Ursaring. PLaying again in 20 or so minutes

That's nice ! Can't wait to hear your feedback again.

So far, do you like the way the Pokémon have been spread throughout the region? Do you want some Pokémon to appear earlier (or later)?

Excellent, I'll look for them. Is Route 17 and 18 the one near the starting town, that you surf to get too?

Yes! In fact, this deluxe version itself suggests (by words, for example Clay advises you to do so) to visit Route 17, 18 etc. first before entering Chargestone Cave, because you can train a lot there! Hehe, I find it kind of astonishing how you managed to get through the Cargestone Cave in the first place.

Not played as much as I could lately, due to a big youth work conference yesterday, and a youth work excursion today. However, played some. Got through CHargestone Cave. Kinda, I am at the end of it. Man, I never thought I would see a Golbat that is Deadly. And then no sooner have I survived his first three, then N sends out the Scizor. Still, I will persevere, ooh, forgot I left it on. Down to Larvitar now, I prevailed over Scizor due to Scizor being in love with my Clefable. Larvitar, you are going down. Yes, get in there

Hah, I love it to hear such feedback, it's very cool!

About your answers, thanks a lot! Black Sludge is what it should be, so thanks!

Btw, RobbieNewton, I've updated the question about Route 18 with more information. Would you like to search for that, too? This is the new question:

- Can TM Psych Up and TM Trick Room be found on Route 18? If so, where can TM Trick Room be found?

- Can both DeepSeaTooth and DeepSeaScale be found around Route 17? What about a Dragon Scale--in this game, it should NOT be there.

- What can be found inside P2 Laboratory just after Route 18?

hey man, first of all great job with this game, i've been playing it for a few days and it's well good, just beat the 3rd boss. i haven't really seen any glitches yet, other than for double/triple battles the game laggs a bit, but im not sure if you can do anything about that.

if you were thinking about changing any music, it would be so good if you could use this for a trainer/wild pokemon encounter, for nostalgias sake and its a sick tune (...)

Thank you! Yeah, I sometimes notice the lagging, too--it's when a wild Pokémon appears, right? I can't do anything about that, I'm afraid.. But I didn't find it that much of a problem.

About the music, I'll try to edit some music when the game is about finished, however, the song you mention cannot be added because it does not consist as a .sseq or .midi file and, more important, it's a anime-based music file and I would like to keep things game-wise. I hope you understand.

Geez, I missed the release date of the new beta...

Anyway, just got it downloaded and all.

I have a lot of homework to do (a poster, poetry booklet, science, theory) that are all due around Monday, so I might not be able to play the beta much.

It seems you already have someone to help you out, so I won't worry too much.

I'll try to keep you posted and you keep on releasing more and more stuff! (And hope my teachers don't be mean this winter and shove homework in my face.)

Also, did I miss any items while staying in Driftveil City from beta 0.5? Am I able to get them?

Missed items.. Probably TM Pluck and TM Incinerate, but they can still be obtained at the Battle Subway (originally, that's the only place to obtain them, so it's actually not a big deal).

I'm definitely looking forward to your updates! Thank you!

Thank you very much, again, Robbie!

May I ask you, how did your Clefable learn Ice Beam? Or is that a misunderstanding?

I'll correct the man's text and I'll have him give away TM Dream Eater instead of the Rare Candy.

I'm looking forward to your further experiences!

Thank you very much, Robbie!

Ah, so the man at Anvil Town doesn't give out TM Dream Eater.. Alright, gotta check that, then.

About the spelling, grammar etc., my mother language isn't English so if you want, it would be great if you could point out some errors, etc.!

(Btw, is it: the man at Anvil Town, or the man in Anvil Town? Hehe, I'm getting totally confused when I accurately pay attention to it).

Thanks. I am just thinking before my testing that I won't be able to answer the Cheren question for Nacrene City, it will need to be answered by someone going through for the first time. Everything else I Should be able to answer.

Cool, thank you very much!

Sure thing. Having a quick break just now, and then going to do a bit of the Desert Castle. Quick question, do I need one of the Shiny Dogs for the ZOruark event, or is it set to just active automatically? And I will continue to keep you updated on results. Assuming I get the last bits of my coursework finished tomorrow, I can probably do testing until the end of the beta later on tomorrow.

I couldn't get the Zoroark event working automatically, however I worked around it! If you're really interested in Zorua / Zoroark, just check for NPCs that want to trade with you, hehe. =)

Alright, I'm really looking forward to your experiences and feedback!

Yes, that is the man I was talking to, the Scientist. He is singing and talking about TM Round, but does not give anything. Just to further test, I talked to every single person in the building (as I was doing anyway), and then talked to them again, and no TM Round from anyone.

Well, that's quite weird.. Because that Scientist SHOULD give out an item. It's programmed, there's no way I could even have changed that, lol.

I've got to look into this.. But thanks a lot anyway for helping me with my progress, Robbie!

While you're playing, it would be amazing if you could answer some more questions! (I've updated the first post of this page 7 with my original questions, so if you're going to answer more questions, use these as guidelines).