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Pokémon genning does not represent any advantage other than saving time, the use of these Pokémon is allowed in ranked battles and even several professional players use artificially generated Pokémon. 

If they have a problem because "it's unfair" why don't they do it too? Or what, they're just annoyed that someone would rather use their time on something else than grind for days on end.

If it were illegal to begin with, they would not be allowed in the game.                                                                  Their parameters are legal by any standard, so what's the problem?

It would be a different matter if they had moves or abilities they couldn't have. That's an unfair advantage but you can't transfer that to an original game!

The only "argument" they have is morale, that they think it's wrong because it's unfair that they had to spend time raising and training a team.

It's simply an elitist mentality to think that anyone would have the time and/or resources to build a team up to par. That to get the full pokédex requires you to spend $180 for exclusive Pokémon you can't get in the other version.

Or that you're forced to buy another game plus its respective DLC just to get Pokémon unobtainable in the current game. For example Calyrex.

And all for what? So that in 3 years the game will be forgotten and you'll have to create your whole team from scratch.

This is a GAME not a JOB.

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The terms of service for online play is effectually a social contract, in which players mutually agree to follow the rules. By following the rules, players agree to not cheat, such as using external applications to read/write data, either directly or indirectly.

1 hour ago, MaravLabs said:

Pokémon genning does not represent any advantage other than saving time

Don't undersell this advantage. What can you gain by saving time? More time to practice? More focused practice? More varied practice? Nobody has infinite time, so saving time by cutting corners gives you an advantage over others who do not cheat.

1 hour ago, MaravLabs said:

the use of these Pokémon is allowed in ranked battles

It's explicitly disallowed by the rules / TOS, just very weakly enforced.

1 hour ago, MaravLabs said:

even several professional players use artificially generated Pokémon. 

Correct, but they are breaking the rules and are occasionally caught/disqualified for doing so.

1 hour ago, MaravLabs said:

If they have a problem because "it's unfair" why don't they do it too?

Because they prefer to follow the rules; the same social contract that every other honest player has agreed to.

1 hour ago, MaravLabs said:

If it were illegal to begin with, they would not be allowed in the game. Their parameters are legal by any standard, so what's the problem?

Not true. Many such examples of things people mistakenly believed as legal at the time/lack of knowledge (such as Sejun Park's Magmar or Wolfe Glick's Moltres, or Shohei Kimura's Amoongus etc.) are actually not legal, and give advantages for their unnatural stats. The official hack checks are not all-knowing, and many things slip through.

1 hour ago, MaravLabs said:

It would be a different matter if they had moves or abilities they couldn't have. That's an unfair advantage but you can't transfer that to an original game!

Let's keep this only related to cheating in supposedly "legal" things. An aside, you can inject wildly hacked things into any game you want, so your statement is factually incorrect. Usually the official hack check will prevent you from trading/battling with them.

1 hour ago, MaravLabs said:

The only "argument" they have is morale, that they think it's wrong because it's unfair that they had to spend time raising and training a team.

Social contract, agreeing to not cheat. By agreeing to the rules then violating them, it should be obvious why there are people that get annoyed by those who do rule-break.

1 hour ago, MaravLabs said:

It's simply an elitist mentality to think that anyone would have the time and/or resources to build a team up to par.

It's a selfish AND elitist mentality to think your time is worth more than others' time, in that you deserve to disobey the rules you agreed to in order to compete. By being dishonest to your peers who agreed to use it, are you really the one in the right? If you don't like the rules, then don't agree to them and don't play in tournaments/ranked. Only play against others who agree with YOUR definition of acceptable rules.

1 hour ago, MaravLabs said:

That to get the full pokédex requires you to spend $180 for exclusive Pokémon you can't get in the other version.

Or that you're forced to buy another game plus its respective DLC just to get Pokémon unobtainable in the current game. For example Calyrex.

And all for what? So that in 3 years the game will be forgotten and you'll have to create your whole team from scratch.

Welcome to the world of gaming. Video game companies exist to sell games and services, and they run promotions/events/circuits in order to market their games. They don't do it for free; they want you to buy their games and spend money on add-on transactions like DLC. You are the consumer, and ranked/VGC is their advertisement of competitive play. One might argue that generating mons increases accessibility and lets more players play with optimal teams, but that is against the rules. The game company calls players "Pokémon Trainers", not "battlers". They want players to play the game, and keep the online community vibrant by trading and battling in-game, so that others are more incentivized to buy the game and join in. Not for players to battle on simulators or receive hacked teams, and never engage with other players besides battling with perfect teams.

1 hour ago, MaravLabs said:

This is a GAME not a JOB.

You'll surely have fun when the upcoming Switch-2 games slam the door shut on hacking/injecting Pokémon. Better get used to obtaining teams legitimately.

Don't like it? Play another game :)

 

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On 4/20/2025 at 11:13 AM, MaravLabs said:

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Whatever you personally feel, ultimately it is their games and their rules. The games tried to improve QOL and make it easier to build teams, but they did not go as far as to revoke their own rules. Their house, their rules, it is all official, plain and simple.

But enough of that already, your post was surgically broken down and answered to with valid points.
I think you should get it already :D

On 4/20/2025 at 11:13 AM, MaravLabs said:

This is a GAME not a JOB.

On a different note, I feel that. When games start to feel like jobs it turns me off. It is the whole reason I've stopped playing Zelda Tears of the Kingdom. I really want to finish the game so I might just get back to grinding it out. Not beyond cheating in a single-player experience, and we're okay with it too.
I may just go back to trying to make a super fused master sword again.

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