Is height/weight/scale related to the PID or Encryption Constant?

[gamecubefan74]

1. Is height/weight/scale related to the Pokemon's PID or Encryption Constant?

2. Can a Pokemon that doesn't have a set scale have any combination of height/weight/scale?

[theSLAYER]

1 hour ago, gamecubefan74 said:

1. Is height/weight/scale related to the Pokemon's PID or Encryption Constant?

2. Can a Pokemon that doesn't have a set scale have any combination of height/weight/scale?

1. Depends on context, if caught wild or via raids on the Switch, then likely true. Do note that putting a Mon through HOME can mess with values like scale or height, but depending on context you’ll be able to see the relation

2. For example, for clones transferred into HOME from Bank, they get set height/weight (and height’s value gets duplicated into scale) via randomness that has a triangular distribution. So in this instance yes, height and weight can have combination (scale would be a duplicate of height). But keep in mind how likely it would be.

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[gamecubefan74]

32 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

1. Depends on context, if caught wild or via raids on the Switch, then likely true. Do note that putting a Mon through HOME can mess with values like scale or height, but depending on context you’ll be able to see the relation

2. For example, for clones transferred into HOME from Bank, they get set height/weight (and height’s value gets duplicated into scale) via randomness that has a triangular distribution. So in this instance yes, height and weight can have combination (scale would be a duplicate of height). But keep in mind how likely it would be.

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Thanks. To be specific, I'm looking to hunt a max size Calyrex (Crown Tundra in Sword). Can Shiny Zacian (Wondercard Event) be max size? Would PID and/or Encryption Constant be related to either of those for height/weight/scale?

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[theSLAYER]

18 minutes ago, gamecubefan74 said:

I'm looking to hunt a max size Calyrex (Crown Tundra in Sword).

I’m unsure if stationary encounters like Calyrex have their height/weight fixed. 

19 minutes ago, gamecubefan74 said:

Can Shiny Zacian (Wondercard Event) be max size?

I’m unsure about wonder cards 

 

Based on absolutely nothing, I think you can try to catch/redeem in-game a few and see if it’s fixed. If not, it’s likely random via triangular distribution 

[PedroKeitawa]

So since this is close to a question i also have i ask: pokemon born from egg (in both SV and SHSW) have some relation in terms of weight/heigh (scale in case of Gen9) with PID/Encrypted constant or is all random?

[SkyLink98]

5 hours ago, PedroKeitawa said:

So since this is close to a question i also have i ask: pokemon born from egg (in both SV and SHSW) have some relation in terms of weight/heigh (scale in case of Gen9) with PID/Encrypted constant or is all random?

Eggs in SV are completely random (each property is a separate CSRNG call); while eggs in SwSh are Xoroshiro RNG from a 64 bit seed, so theoretically each stat can be correlated to the seed.

[PedroKeitawa]

2 hours ago, SkyLink98 said:

Eggs in SV are completely random (each property is a separate CSRNG call); while eggs in SwSh are Xoroshiro RNG from a 64 bit seed, so theoretically each stat can be correlated to the seed.

So theoreticly i can rng (correct me if im wrong) for the egg to hatch with specific height and weight in SHSW? So i assume is the same for raid then then, regarding height and weight?

[SkyLink98]

 

1 hour ago, PedroKeitawa said:

So theoreticly i can rng (correct me if im wrong) for the egg to hatch with specific height and weight in SHSW? So i assume is the same for raid then then, regarding height and weight?

You can't RNG abuse the eggs in SwSh , because the seed is still generated through CSRNG (not manipulable in any way). Though, if you have the seed you can calculate results.

Raids in SwSh are seeded through Xoroshiro, and can be manipulated.

Raids in SV are seeded from a CSRNG 64bit seed, not manipulable

[PedroKeitawa]

On 5/1/2025 at 1:01 AM, SkyLink98 said:

 

You can't RNG abuse the eggs in SwSh , because the seed is still generated through CSRNG (not manipulable in any way). Though, if you have the seed you can calculate results.

Raids in SwSh are seeded through Xoroshiro, and can be manipulated.

Raids in SV are seeded from a CSRNG 64bit seed, not manipulable

Understood, thank you.