Female Shiny Venusaur Gen 1

[Alyru]

I was creating a Living Shiny Dex for each generation and it turns out that I can't create a shiny female Venusaur. It worked with the rest of the first generation females, it only happens with Venusaur.

 

[Poke J]

2 hours ago, Alyru said:

I was creating a Living Shiny Dex for each generation and it turns out that I can't create a shiny female Venusaur. It worked with the rest of the first generation females, it only happens with Venusaur.

 

In gens 1 and 2 female starters can never be shiny since both gender and shiny is determined by the Pokémon DVs. A female starter has an attack DV of either 0 or 1 and the lowest attack DV a shiny Pokémon can have is 2. So for a starter Pokémon to be shiny it has to be male since an attack DV of 2 will result with the Pokémon being male; therefore, starters that are female and shiny is impossible.

[Atrius97]

This is actually possible, but PKHeX doesn't account for it yet. VC Gen 1 transfers with the "wrong shiny stats" (swapped Attack and Defense), during Transporter v1.2, could wind up shiny and female on transfer, even if they had the 1 Female to 7 Males gender ratio. 

To my knowledge, this was corrected before the release of VC Gen 2, so this was only possible until Sept 5th 2017, with VC Gen 2 releasing on the 22nd later that month.

It's also a short list of species, the three Gen 1 Starters, Eevee, Fossils, and Snorlax.

Edited February 26, 2023 by Atrius97

[javier_himura]

13 hours ago, Atrius97 said:

This is actually possible, but PKHeX doesn't account for it yet.

Actually PKHeX account for this too, a detection for this scenario is in the code. As long as the Pokemon was transfered to gen7 from a gen 1 game and has no data that requires it to pass trought a gen 2 game (like exclusive gen2 moves or level that can only be obtained in gen 2 as for example level 5 snorlax from an egg) PkHex should detect a shiny female as legal.

 

PD: I think the date doesn't matter for legallity purposes because a player could change the date on his 3DS. I think it wasn't until Pokemon Go and Switch events where a server date (and therefore one that can't be changed by the user) started to be used when receiving Pokemon.

Edited February 26, 2023 by javier_himura

[Atrius97]

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Actually PKHeX account for this too, a detection for this scenario is in the code.

It still gets caught on the static encounter check. You're welcome to try in the latest dev build, but I can confirm it doesn't currently account for this.

[javier_himura]

As I said there is in code detection for that scenario so PkHex at least have the intention to account for this. Probably is not working correctly and the best will be to report the issue with the pkm file to analyze so a dev could fix the issue.