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38 minutes ago, DestroyMagnet said:

Wow, you guys are doing awsome work. I don't support y'all know which flags activate which hidden items in FR/LG? Still, to this day I can't seem to spawn those Heart Scales in Tanoby Ruins or that Big Pearl in Trainer Tower. ?

No clue. Probably will compare before and after saves.

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Berry Forest Hypno

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isset: 0122, 0675
unset: 0117

34: 4->0
39: 24640->24641
121: 1->3
174: 232->270

Magikarp saleman

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isset: 0585

1: 0->129

 

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On 10/20/2018 at 1:57 PM, DestroyMagnet said:

Wow, you guys are doing awsome work. I don't suppose y'all know which flags activate which hidden items in FR/LG? Still, to this day I can't seem to spawn those Heart Scales in Tanoby Ruins or that Big Pearl in Trainer Tower. ?

Hi, for the Big Pearl at Trainer Tower you need to unset flag 1185

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For those who don't know where it is: 

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As for the Heart Scales, i can't find them... in every island of the Tanoby Ruins the Itemfinder didn't find anything, but they should be there ?

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37 minutes ago, cicciochiave said:

As for the Heart Scales, i can't find them... in every island of the Tanoby Ruins the Itemfinder didn't find anything, but they should be there ?

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I'm not sure about the flags.

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Do we need to do something (talk to someone or other...) before we can find the Heart Scales? I used the Itemfinder in the spots where the scales should be, but nothing was found... I'm sure I didn't collect them already ?

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I have the same problem with the Heart Scales. They aren't there, and I'm sure I didn't take them, as I didn't even know they supposedly existed.

edit: Apparently someone documented the internal IDs for the hidden items:
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=399026


If the event flags also ascend in a similar style, knowing the before or after event flag IDs of the items in the same order,
would have been enough XD

edit2:
Nest Ball in Rocket Warehouse. When obtained, 1068 -> Set
If the flags are sequential, 1064 to 1067 are the tanoby heart scales.
Gonna test it.
 

edit3: HAHAHAHAHA
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I was right. Unsetting those four flags allowed all 4 heart scales to appear in the game.

Final edit (Probably):
Based on the table and the numerical difference, I came up with a new table that attempts to match the flag ID with the internal ID.
Note that it is likely not accurate, as the Big Pearl ID doesn't match @cicciochiave previously reported id.
However, it's a good indicator for flag values in the range, as it clearly worked for the 4 heart scales.

 

Table for various hidden items and event flag ID.

Table is in the spoiler below:

Spoiler
Advanced Map ID (Internal Rom IDs basically)
Item ID | Item | Location | Map # (For Use with A-Map)
Event Flag ID (as recognized by PKHeX)
00 - Potion - Viridian Forest - (1.0) 1000
01 - Antidote - Viridian Forest - (1.0) 1001
02 - Moon Stone - Mt. Moon Floor 3 - (1.3) 1002
03 - Ether - Mt. Moon Floor 3 - (1.3) 1003
04 - Elixir - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1004
05 - Ether - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1005
06 - Ether - Route 9 - (3.27) 1006
07 - N/A - N/A - N/A 1007
08 - Hyper Potion - S.S Anne Inside - (1.8) 1008
09 - Super Potion - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1009
0A - Max Ether - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1010
0B - PP Up - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 1 - (1.42) 1011
0C - Nugget - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 3 - (1.44) 1012
0D - Nest Ball - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 4 - (1.45) 1013
0E - Big Mushroom - Pokémon Tower Floor 5 - (1.92) 1014
0F - PP Up - Route 13 - (3.31) 1015
10 - N/A - N/A - N/A 1016
11 - Rare Candy - Route 17 - (3.35) 1017
12 - Full Restore - Route 17 - (3.35) 1018
13 - PP Up - Route 17 - (3.35) 1019
14 - Max Revive - Route 17 - (3.35) 1020
15 - Max Elixir - Route 17 - (3.35) 1021
16 - Leaf Stone - Safari Zone Area 1 - (1.63) 1022
17 - Revive - Safari Zone Area 4 - (1.66) 1023
18 - Elixir - Silph Co. Floor 5 - (1.51) 1024
19 - Max Potion - Silph Co. Floor 9 - (1.55) 1025
1A - Nugget - Copycat's Room (14.1) 1026
1B - Max Elixir - Power Plant - (1.95) 1027
1C - Thunder Stone - Power Plant - (1.95) 1028
1D - Nugget - Seafoam Islands Floor 4 - (1.86) 1029
1E - Water Stone - Seafoam Islands Floor 5 - (1.87) 1030
1F - Moon Stone - Pokémon Mansion Floor 1 - (1.59) 1031
20 - Rare Candy - Pokémon Mansion Floor 3 - (1.61) 1032
21 - Elixir - Pokémon Mansion Floor 4 - (1.62) 1033
22 - Full Restore - Route 23 - (3.42) 1034
23 - Ultra Ball - Route 23 - (3.42) 1035
24 - Max Ether - Route 23 - (3.42) 1036
25 - Ultra Ball - Victory Road Floor 1 - (1.39) 1037
26 - Full Restore - Victory Road Floor 1 - (1.39) 1038
27 - Ultra Ball - Cerulean Cave Floor 1 - (1.72) 1039
28 - N/A - N/A - N/A 1040
29 - Escape Rope - Route 11 OW - (3.29) 1041
2A - Hyper Potion - Route 12 OW - (3.30) 1042
2B - N/A - N/A - N/A 1043
2C - N/A - N/A - N/A 1044
2D - N/A - N/A - N/A 1045
2E - N/A - N/A - N/A 1046
2F - PP Up - Celadon City OW (3.6) 1047
30 - Max Ether - Vermilion City OW (3.5) 1048
31 - Rare Candy - Cerulean City OW (3.3) 1049
32 - Great Ball - Route 4 OW - (3.22) 1050
33 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1051
34 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1052
35 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1053
36 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1054
37 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1055
38 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1056
39 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1057
3A - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1058
3B - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1059
3C - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1060
3D - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1061
3E - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1062
3F - Cheri Berry - Sevault Canyon OW - (3.64) 1063
40 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1064
41 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1065
42 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1066
43 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1067
44 - Nest Ball - Rocket Warehouse - (1.114) 1068
45 - Net Ball - Rocket Warehouse - (1.114) 1069
46 - Potion - Underground Path - (1.31) 1070
47 - Antidote - Underground Path - (1.31) 1071
48 - Paralyze Heal - Underground Path - (1.31) 1072
49 - Awakening - Underground Path - (1.31) 1073
4A - Burn Heal - Underground Path - (1.31) 1074
4B - Ice Heal - Underground Path - (1.31) 1075
4C - Ether - Underground Path - (1.31) 1076
4D - Potion - Underground Path - (1.34) 1077
4E - Antidote - Underground Path - (1.34) 1078
4F - Paralyze Heal - Underground Path - (1.34) 1079
50 - Awakening - Underground Path - (1.34) 1080
51 - Burn Heal - Underground Path - (1.34) 1081
52 - Ice Heal - Underground Path - (1.34) 1082
53 - Ether - Underground Path - (1.34) 1083
54 - Tiny Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1084
55 - Tiny Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1085
56 - Tiny Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1086
57 - Big Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1087
58 - Big Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1088
59 - Big Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1089
5A - Razz Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1090
5B - Bluk Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1091
5C - Nanab Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1092
5D - Wepear Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1093
5E - Oran Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1094
5F - Cheri Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1095
60 - Chesto Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1096
61 - Pecha Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1097
62 - Rawst Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1098
63 - Aspear Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1099
64 - Persim Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1100
65 - Pinap Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1101
66 - Lum Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1102
67 - Stardust - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1103
68 - Stardust - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1104
69 - Pearl - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1105
6A - Pearl - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1106
6B - Ultra Ball - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1107
6C - Ultra Ball - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1108
6D - Star Piece - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1109
6E - Big Pearl - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1110
6F - Rare Candy - Cape Brink OW - (3.47) 1111
70 - Pokeball - Pewter City OW (3.2) 1112
71 - Oran Berry - Route 3 - (3.21) 1113
72 - Persim Berry - Route 4 OW - (3.22) 1114
73 - Pecha Berry - Route 24 - (3.43) 1115
74 - Oran Berry - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1116
75 - Bluk Berry - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1117
76 - Sitrus Bery - Route 6 OW - (3.24) 1118
77 - Rare Candy - Route 6 OW - (3.24) 1119
78 - Pecha Berry - S.S Anne Outside - (1.10) 1120
79 - Cheri Berry - S.S Anne Outside - (1.10) 1121
7A - Chesto Berry - S.S Anne Outside - (1.10) 1122
7B - Rare Candy - Route 9 - (3.27) 1123
7C - N/A - N/A - N/A  1124
7D - Persim Berry - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1125
7E - Cheri Berry - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1126
7F - Rawst Berry - Route 8 OW - (3.26) 1127
80 - Lum Berry - Route 8 OW - (3.26) 1128
81 - Leppa Berry - Route 8 OW - (3.26) 1129
82 - Rare Candy - Route 12 OW - (3.30) 1130
83 - Leftovers - Route 12 OW - (3.30) 1131
84 - Leftovers - Route 16 OW - (3.34) 1132
85 - Max Revive - Fuchsia City OW - (3.7) 1133
86 - Net Ball - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 4 - (1.45) 1134
87 - Ultra Ball - Silph Co. Floor 2 - (1.48) 1135
88 - Protein - Silph Co. Floor 3 - (1.49) 1136
89 - Iron - Silph Co. Floor 4 - (1.50) 1137
8A - PP Up - Silph Co. Floor 5 - (1.51) 1138
8B - Carbos - Silph Co. Floor 6 - (1.52) 1139
8C - Zinc - Silph Co. Floor 7 - (1.53) 1140
8D - Nugget - Silph Co. Floor 8 - (1.54) 1141
8E - Calcium - Silph Co. Floor 9 - (1.55) 1142
8F - HP Up - Silph Co. Floor 10 - (1.56) 1143
90 - Revive - Silph Co. Floor 11 - (1.57) 1144
91 - Lum Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1145
92 - Sitrus Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1146
93 - Aspear Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1147
94 - Leppa Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1148
95 - Zinc - Route 14 - (3.32) 1149
96 - Chesto Berry - Route 9 - (3.27) 1150
97 - Nanab Berry - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1151
98 - Wepear Berry - Route 7 OW (3.25) 1152
99 - Star Dust - Route 20 - (3.38) 1153
9A - Pearl - Route 21 (OW 1 out of 2) - (3.39) 1154
9B - Max Elixir - Route 23 - (3.42) 1155
9C - Razz Berry - Route 4 OW - (3.22) 1156
9D - Pinap Berry - Route 14 - (3.32) 1157
9E - Fire Stone - Mt. Ember OW Entrance - (1.97) 1158
9F - Soothe Bell - Pokémon Tower Floor 7 - (1.94) 1159
A0 - Sacred Ash - Navel Rock Roof - (2.37) 1160
A1 - PP Max - Cape Brink OW - (3.47) 1161
A2 - Ultra Ball - Mt. Ember OW Entrance - (1.97) 1162
A3 - Nugget - Three Isle Path - (2.34) 1163
A4 - PP Up - Three Island - (3.14) 1164
A5 - Max Repel - Bond Bridge - (3.48) 1165
A6 - Pearl - Bond Bridge - (3.48) 1166
A7 - Stardust - Bond Bridge - (3.48) 1167
A8 - Pearl - Four Island - (3.15) 1168
A9 - Ultra Ball - Four Island - (3.15) 1169
AA - Big Pearl - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1170
AB - Razz Berry - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1171
AC - Sitrus Berry - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1172
AD - Bluk Berry - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1173
AE - Nest Ball - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1174
AF - Stardust - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1175
B0 - Star Piece - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1176
B1 - Stardust - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1177
B2 - Star Piece - Outcast Island - (3.58) 1178
B3 - Net Ball - Outcast Island - (3.58) 1179
B4 - Ultra Ball - Green Path - (3.59) 1180
B5 - Aspear Berry - Water Path OW - (3.60) 1181
B6 - Oran Berry - Water Path OW - (3.60) 1182
B7 - Pinap Berry - Water Path OW - (3.60) 1183
B8 - Leppa Berry - Six Island - (3.18) 1184
B9 - Big Pearl - Trainer Tower OW - (3.62) 1185
BA - Pearl - Trainer Tower OW - (3.62) 1186
BB - Nanab Berry - Trainer Tower OW - (3.62) 1187
BC - Rawst Berry - Canyon Entrance - (3.63) 1188
BD - Macho Brace - Viridian City's Gym - (5.1) 1189
BE - Lava Cookie - S.S Anne Ship Dock - (1.4) 1190

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Kaphotics said:

That's cool!

Also, @cicciochiave was correct and the pearl is at 1185, as opposed to 1186 in my table.

I'm suspecting everything got shifted after the N/A above. will be looking at and fixing my table.

edit: Yup, the Persim Berry on Route 10 is 1125 instead of 1126, meaning the skipped the NA.
Modified my table to reflect that information.

edit again: Oh boy, viridian forest potion is 1000, meaning somewhere in the list it decided to jump up by another flag..

I don't know how and I don't know where, it appears I made another mistake.
Table fixed, with the correct numbers, starting from the nice round number :)

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Cool stuff as always, but... I still don't understand why I and even @theSLAYER weren't able to find them. ?

PS:

It seems like FR/LG are less documented then R/S/E as for the flags and this is the reason why i'm loving this thread... it is growing day by day. ?

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2 minutes ago, cicciochiave said:

Cool stuff as always, but... I still don't understand why I and even @theSLAYER weren't able to find them. ?

PS:

It seems like FR/LG are less documented then R/S/E as for the flags and this is the reason why i'm loving this thread... it is growing day by day. ?

I've read that events such events are either:
1. Tied to talking to NPCs (like how the legendaries only roam after you talk to Celio to complete Sapphire delivery)
2. They randomly respawn after a certain number of steps.

So we either didn't walk enough steps for it to respawn, or we didn't talk to an important character.

In any case, the page @Kaphotics linked us pretty much has RSE items and hidden items,
and we've now cracked all hidden items of FRLG.

(Sadly, that github doesn't contained a flags disassembly for FRLG :( )

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On October 29, 2018 at 6:31 AM, cicciochiave said:

Hi, for the Big Pearl at Trainer Tower you need to unset flag 1185

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For those who don't know where it is: 

2eo8sj6.png

As for the Heart Scales, i can't find them... in every island of the Tanoby Ruins the Itemfinder didn't find anything, but they should be there ?

Lol I don't know how and why but I was able to get the Trainer Tower Big Pearl after either I received the 300 hatch sticker or completed the National Dex, I can't be too sure what happened but I rechecked the area after I completed both achievements. I was also able to make the Memorial Pillar Big Pearl finally appear after I caught my legendary roamer (Suicune) at Route 2. I feel super sure about this because I kept rechecking the Memorial Pillar once per day and once I caught Suicune I rechecked the area on a whim and it finally spawned. It seems that certain hidden items only start to appear after doing particular things? 🤔

Edit: I forgot to mention that that I was also missing the Memorial Pillar Big Pearl until VERY recently.

Edited by DestroyMagnet

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On October 29, 2018 at 8:06 PM, theSLAYER said:

I have the same problem with the Heart Scales. They aren't there, and I'm sure I didn't take them, as I didn't even know they supposedly existed.

edit: Apparently someone documented the internal IDs for the hidden items:
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=399026


If the event flags also ascend in a similar style, knowing the before or after event flag IDs of the items in the same order,
would have been enough XD

edit2:
Nest Ball in Rocket Warehouse. When obtained, 1068 -> Set
If the flags are sequential, 1064 to 1067 are the tanoby heart scales.
Gonna test it.
 

edit3: HAHAHAHAHA
image.png

I was right. Unsetting those four flags allowed all 4 heart scales to appear in the game.

Final edit (Probably):
Based on the table and the numerical difference, I came up with a new table that attempts to match the flag ID with the internal ID.
Note that it is likely not accurate, as the Big Pearl ID doesn't match @cicciochiave previously reported id.
However, it's a good indicator for flag values in the range, as it clearly worked for the 4 heart scales.

 

Table for various hidden items and event flag ID.

Table is in the spoiler below:

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Advanced Map ID (Internal Rom IDs basically)
Item ID | Item | Location | Map # (For Use with A-Map)
Event Flag ID (as recognized by PKHeX)
00 - Potion - Viridian Forest - (1.0) 1000
01 - Antidote - Viridian Forest - (1.0) 1001
02 - Moon Stone - Mt. Moon Floor 3 - (1.3) 1002
03 - Ether - Mt. Moon Floor 3 - (1.3) 1003
04 - Elixir - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1004
05 - Ether - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1005
06 - Ether - Route 9 - (3.27) 1006
07 - N/A - N/A - N/A 1007
08 - Hyper Potion - S.S Anne Inside - (1.8) 1008
09 - Super Potion - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1009
0A - Max Ether - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1010
0B - PP Up - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 1 - (1.42) 1011
0C - Nugget - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 3 - (1.44) 1012
0D - Nest Ball - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 4 - (1.45) 1013
0E - Big Mushroom - Pokémon Tower Floor 5 - (1.92) 1014
0F - PP Up - Route 13 - (3.31) 1015
10 - N/A - N/A - N/A 1016
11 - Rare Candy - Route 17 - (3.35) 1017
12 - Full Restore - Route 17 - (3.35) 1018
13 - PP Up - Route 17 - (3.35) 1019
14 - Max Revive - Route 17 - (3.35) 1020
15 - Max Elixir - Route 17 - (3.35) 1021
16 - Leaf Stone - Safari Zone Area 1 - (1.63) 1022
17 - Revive - Safari Zone Area 4 - (1.66) 1023
18 - Elixir - Silph Co. Floor 5 - (1.51) 1024
19 - Max Potion - Silph Co. Floor 9 - (1.55) 1025
1A - Nugget - Copycat's Room (14.1) 1026
1B - Max Elixir - Power Plant - (1.95) 1027
1C - Thunder Stone - Power Plant - (1.95) 1028
1D - Nugget - Seafoam Islands Floor 4 - (1.86) 1029
1E - Water Stone - Seafoam Islands Floor 5 - (1.87) 1030
1F - Moon Stone - Pokémon Mansion Floor 1 - (1.59) 1031
20 - Rare Candy - Pokémon Mansion Floor 3 - (1.61) 1032
21 - Elixir - Pokémon Mansion Floor 4 - (1.62) 1033
22 - Full Restore - Route 23 - (3.42) 1034
23 - Ultra Ball - Route 23 - (3.42) 1035
24 - Max Ether - Route 23 - (3.42) 1036
25 - Ultra Ball - Victory Road Floor 1 - (1.39) 1037
26 - Full Restore - Victory Road Floor 1 - (1.39) 1038
27 - Ultra Ball - Cerulean Cave Floor 1 - (1.72) 1039
28 - N/A - N/A - N/A 1040
29 - Escape Rope - Route 11 OW - (3.29) 1041
2A - Hyper Potion - Route 12 OW - (3.30) 1042
2B - N/A - N/A - N/A 1043
2C - N/A - N/A - N/A 1044
2D - N/A - N/A - N/A 1045
2E - N/A - N/A - N/A 1046
2F - PP Up - Celadon City OW (3.6) 1047
30 - Max Ether - Vermilion City OW (3.5) 1048
31 - Rare Candy - Cerulean City OW (3.3) 1049
32 - Great Ball - Route 4 OW - (3.22) 1050
33 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1051
34 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1052
35 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1053
36 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1054
37 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1055
38 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1056
39 - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1057
3A - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1058
3B - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1059
3C - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1060
3D - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1061
3E - Item 0000 (Coins) - Celadon Game Corner (10.14) 1062
3F - Cheri Berry - Sevault Canyon OW - (3.64) 1063
40 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1064
41 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1065
42 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1066
43 - Heart Scale - Tanoby Ruins - (3.65) 1067
44 - Nest Ball - Rocket Warehouse - (1.114) 1068
45 - Net Ball - Rocket Warehouse - (1.114) 1069
46 - Potion - Underground Path - (1.31) 1070
47 - Antidote - Underground Path - (1.31) 1071
48 - Paralyze Heal - Underground Path - (1.31) 1072
49 - Awakening - Underground Path - (1.31) 1073
4A - Burn Heal - Underground Path - (1.31) 1074
4B - Ice Heal - Underground Path - (1.31) 1075
4C - Ether - Underground Path - (1.31) 1076
4D - Potion - Underground Path - (1.34) 1077
4E - Antidote - Underground Path - (1.34) 1078
4F - Paralyze Heal - Underground Path - (1.34) 1079
50 - Awakening - Underground Path - (1.34) 1080
51 - Burn Heal - Underground Path - (1.34) 1081
52 - Ice Heal - Underground Path - (1.34) 1082
53 - Ether - Underground Path - (1.34) 1083
54 - Tiny Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1084
55 - Tiny Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1085
56 - Tiny Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1086
57 - Big Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1087
58 - Big Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1088
59 - Big Mushroom - Mt. Moon Floor 2 - (1.2) 1089
5A - Razz Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1090
5B - Bluk Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1091
5C - Nanab Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1092
5D - Wepear Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1093
5E - Oran Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1094
5F - Cheri Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1095
60 - Chesto Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1096
61 - Pecha Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1097
62 - Rawst Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1098
63 - Aspear Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1099
64 - Persim Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1100
65 - Pinap Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1101
66 - Lum Berry - Berry Forest - (1.109) 1102
67 - Stardust - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1103
68 - Stardust - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1104
69 - Pearl - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1105
6A - Pearl - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1106
6B - Ultra Ball - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1107
6C - Ultra Ball - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1108
6D - Star Piece - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1109
6E - Big Pearl - Treasure Island - (3.46) 1110
6F - Rare Candy - Cape Brink OW - (3.47) 1111
70 - Pokeball - Pewter City OW (3.2) 1112
71 - Oran Berry - Route 3 - (3.21) 1113
72 - Persim Berry - Route 4 OW - (3.22) 1114
73 - Pecha Berry - Route 24 - (3.43) 1115
74 - Oran Berry - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1116
75 - Bluk Berry - Route 25 OW - (3.44) 1117
76 - Sitrus Bery - Route 6 OW - (3.24) 1118
77 - Rare Candy - Route 6 OW - (3.24) 1119
78 - Pecha Berry - S.S Anne Outside - (1.10) 1120
79 - Cheri Berry - S.S Anne Outside - (1.10) 1121
7A - Chesto Berry - S.S Anne Outside - (1.10) 1122
7B - Rare Candy - Route 9 - (3.27) 1123
7C - N/A - N/A - N/A  1124
7D - Persim Berry - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1125
7E - Cheri Berry - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1126
7F - Rawst Berry - Route 8 OW - (3.26) 1127
80 - Lum Berry - Route 8 OW - (3.26) 1128
81 - Leppa Berry - Route 8 OW - (3.26) 1129
82 - Rare Candy - Route 12 OW - (3.30) 1130
83 - Leftovers - Route 12 OW - (3.30) 1131
84 - Leftovers - Route 16 OW - (3.34) 1132
85 - Max Revive - Fuchsia City OW - (3.7) 1133
86 - Net Ball - Rocket's Hideout Basement Floor 4 - (1.45) 1134
87 - Ultra Ball - Silph Co. Floor 2 - (1.48) 1135
88 - Protein - Silph Co. Floor 3 - (1.49) 1136
89 - Iron - Silph Co. Floor 4 - (1.50) 1137
8A - PP Up - Silph Co. Floor 5 - (1.51) 1138
8B - Carbos - Silph Co. Floor 6 - (1.52) 1139
8C - Zinc - Silph Co. Floor 7 - (1.53) 1140
8D - Nugget - Silph Co. Floor 8 - (1.54) 1141
8E - Calcium - Silph Co. Floor 9 - (1.55) 1142
8F - HP Up - Silph Co. Floor 10 - (1.56) 1143
90 - Revive - Silph Co. Floor 11 - (1.57) 1144
91 - Lum Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1145
92 - Sitrus Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1146
93 - Aspear Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1147
94 - Leppa Berry - Route 23 - (3.42) 1148
95 - Zinc - Route 14 - (3.32) 1149
96 - Chesto Berry - Route 9 - (3.27) 1150
97 - Nanab Berry - Route 10 OW - (3.28) 1151
98 - Wepear Berry - Route 7 OW (3.25) 1152
99 - Star Dust - Route 20 - (3.38) 1153
9A - Pearl - Route 21 (OW 1 out of 2) - (3.39) 1154
9B - Max Elixir - Route 23 - (3.42) 1155
9C - Razz Berry - Route 4 OW - (3.22) 1156
9D - Pinap Berry - Route 14 - (3.32) 1157
9E - Fire Stone - Mt. Ember OW Entrance - (1.97) 1158
9F - Soothe Bell - Pokémon Tower Floor 7 - (1.94) 1159
A0 - Sacred Ash - Navel Rock Roof - (2.37) 1160
A1 - PP Max - Cape Brink OW - (3.47) 1161
A2 - Ultra Ball - Mt. Ember OW Entrance - (1.97) 1162
A3 - Nugget - Three Isle Path - (2.34) 1163
A4 - PP Up - Three Island - (3.14) 1164
A5 - Max Repel - Bond Bridge - (3.48) 1165
A6 - Pearl - Bond Bridge - (3.48) 1166
A7 - Stardust - Bond Bridge - (3.48) 1167
A8 - Pearl - Four Island - (3.15) 1168
A9 - Ultra Ball - Four Island - (3.15) 1169
AA - Big Pearl - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1170
AB - Razz Berry - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1171
AC - Sitrus Berry - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1172
AD - Bluk Berry - Memorial Pillar - (3.57) 1173
AE - Nest Ball - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1174
AF - Stardust - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1175
B0 - Star Piece - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1176
B1 - Stardust - Resort Gorgeous OW - (3.54) 1177
B2 - Star Piece - Outcast Island - (3.58) 1178
B3 - Net Ball - Outcast Island - (3.58) 1179
B4 - Ultra Ball - Green Path - (3.59) 1180
B5 - Aspear Berry - Water Path OW - (3.60) 1181
B6 - Oran Berry - Water Path OW - (3.60) 1182
B7 - Pinap Berry - Water Path OW - (3.60) 1183
B8 - Leppa Berry - Six Island - (3.18) 1184
B9 - Big Pearl - Trainer Tower OW - (3.62) 1185
BA - Pearl - Trainer Tower OW - (3.62) 1186
BB - Nanab Berry - Trainer Tower OW - (3.62) 1187
BC - Rawst Berry - Canyon Entrance - (3.63) 1188
BD - Macho Brace - Viridian City's Gym - (5.1) 1189
BE - Lava Cookie - S.S Anne Ship Dock - (1.4) 1190

 

 

I haven't gotten around to using PKHex to unset those Heart Scales yet. I'm still wondering as to what specific in-game event would naturally trigger those flags. I've never used any of those one-time tutors. Maybe the Heart Scale flags are tied to them? No idea how, but this fellow here was able to find the Heart Scales: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l8IekFzPfWg. Maybe it's because they used those move tutors? My oh my, what a hassle! 😅

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4 minutes ago, DestroyMagnet said:

I haven't gotten around to using PKHex to unset those Heart Scales yet. I'm still wondering as to what specific in-game event would naturally trigger those flags. I've never used any of those one-time tutors. Maybe the Heart Scale flags are tied to them? No idea how, but this fellow here was able to find the Heart Scales: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l8IekFzPfWg. Maybe it's because they used those move tutors? My oh my, what a hassle! 😅

You could give that a try XD

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6 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

You could give that a try XD

Lol I will. Hopefully, they'll FINALLY naturally spawn.

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On October 29, 2018 at 6:31 AM, cicciochiave said:

Hi, for the Big Pearl at Trainer Tower you need to unset flag 1185

  Reveal hidden contents

For those who don't know where it is: 

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As for the Heart Scales, i can't find them... in every island of the Tanoby Ruins the Itemfinder didn't find anything, but they should be there ?

 

1 hour ago, theSLAYER said:

You could give that a try XD

Yessssssssss. I can 100% confirm that using up ALL the one-time move tutors will naturally spawn the Heart Scales. Although, it was probably only triggered by using up a particular move tutor. I took no chances and did them all just to cover all bases. I FINALLY found all the Leaf Green hidden items, I can finally rest easy 😅.

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Just now, DestroyMagnet said:

 

Yessssssssss. I can 100% confirm that using up ALL the one-time move tutors will naturally spawn the Heart Scales. Although, it was probably only triggered by using up a particular move tutor. I took no chances and did them all just to cover all bases. I FINALLY found all the Leaf Green hidden items, I can finally rest easy 😅.

At least we know is it tied to a move tutor, now can pinpoint which one.
Also, if you made a save backup per move tutor, could just check at which point the flag was triggered (on PKHeX)

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7 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

At least we know is it tied to a move tutor, now can pinpoint which one.
Also, if you made a save backup per move tutor, could just check at which point the flag was triggered (on PKHeX)

Sorry, I didn't make any backups per tutor. I just wanted to get it over with because it was a hassle tracking them all down one by one. I saved immediately after I got all 4 because I was so glad I found everything and didn't wanna risk losing my progress. Thinking back, the developers probably intended for the Heart Scales to ONLY spawn after using up all (or some) in-game move tutors as some form of RSE-related irony. At least the mystery of the hidden Heart Scales has been solved lol. 

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