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1 minute ago, wrathsoffire76 said:

Both failed for me, this seems o be one of the files that we can't get :(

yeah those are missing too, but I'm not too concerned with them. (unless it has the mystery gift, then damn; I can't check, cause @suloku's mystery gift tool is oddly treated as a trojan)

Lucky 4 us, the 2006 save for XD's Pokemon, has Tanabata Jirachi from 2004, 2005 and 2006.

The missing Celebi's are the Mitsurin Celebi, which @HaxAras got for us,
and @Afepoke also recently sent it to us. (the Tanabata Jirachi's was also provided there)

I'm guessing the Poochyena wasn't saved, since it doesn't seem to be an event Pokemon.

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@wrathsoffire76 once again, not a save XD

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The website was archived and due to that is still alive:  https://web.archive.org/web/20080417193505/http://gbfan.web.infoseek.co.jp:80/pokemon_savedata/emerald/index.html You might remember when

I was taking a look at it and I'm not sure... but yeah, there's a possibility that there were 2 different versions of ネガイボシ's Distribution software. Strange thing is one of them is OT Gender Female

Do you mind posting or PMing me those saves? They look interesting! kaphotics edit: forwarded via pm

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1 hour ago, Sabresite said:

And the pokerus tagging and files that were touched were reversed. 

I'm of the kind that thinks that having the most untouched version as well as the "fixed" ones is better for preservation.

Also, if anyone is up to it I think it would be interesting to have a compilation of all savefiles from Ahuri in a single zip, as well as html dumps of the page for preservation and future reference from anyone wanting to revise the site,

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1 hour ago, ajxpk said:

Just for your information...
@HaxAras has the Jirachi+Celebi archive from me. He asked me about it shortly after I opened the Thread.
It originally comes from @Purin so he deserves all the credit for it.

Sorry about that. I should have added credit.

7 minutes ago, suloku said:

I'm of the kind that thinks that having the most untouched version as well as the "fixed" ones is better for preservation.

I just don't see the point in keeping modified Pokémon.

1 hour ago, Sabresite said:

Ahuri had some hacks :/

FYI, almost all of these are now on the github event gallery. Minus the hacks. This includes WC3 files and pk3m mail files (extracted manually). And the pokerus tagging and files that were touched were reversed. 

I haven't really looked at the files. We're there any new wonder cards?

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46 minutes ago, HaxAras said:

I just don't see the point in keeping modified Pokémon.

Me neither, but I guess some people prefer "reverted" files to the most untouched possible state and I don't see a problem in providing them with propper specification that they are modified versions of the file we have, be it removing pokérus or de-leveling to distribution state.

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On 10/22/2017 at 4:42 AM, theSLAYER said:

No worries.

In the mean time, I've uploaded all the other ones I could get:

 

@Sabresite: The Negaboshi that Ahiru has is BACD_AU_X, but the ones we have are BACD_R

Ahiru's one: 385 - ジラーチ - 49F976B0815F.pk3

One we have: 385 - ジラーチ - 8A9C15B6163B.pk3

Update: In Ahiru save, there are both kinds of PID for Negaiboshi:
emerald_irotigai_no_pokemon.sav

I somehow missed this when you mentioned it.  I will look into it further, but if this is the case, then they may have updated the code prior to finalizing it. @ajxpk, thoughts?

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I was taking a look at it and I'm not sure... but yeah, there's a possibility that there were 2 different versions of ネガイボシ's Distribution software.
Strange thing is one of them is OT Gender Female and the Trash Bytes are like PCNY, since you know more about PCNY than I do I leave it up to you.
I always found the idea that the generation code was used like this in the US only weird, so I really can imagine that this was the origin of the software for the PCNY Distributions. We already had the idea that PCNY is related to the older Japanese Events, so it's nothing new and could be an further indicator that the theory is correct. :) 

This also means that スタンプ could be either like one of those two... Seeing that there's an Absol with ネガイボシ's berries that was used for スタンプ and for PCNY I would say that that this is the newer one but this would also mean that スタンプ could be both OT Gender Male and Female as well. Which is hard to confirm based on the low numbers of Distributions. We don't have any legit スタンプ seen to this day...
  

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We have indications that otg and game origin come from the users game for this kind of distribution. Since up to 80k were distributed, it is understandable that either Pokemon festa or the world hobby fair (or both) would use GameCubes.

It's fast, automatic, and shows off the GameCube on the big screen (which was still their hot system at the time). I bet they set up makeshift gotta catch em all stations.

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Just for clarification... ALL ネガイボシ Distributions were made using GameCubes. So this has nothing to do with GameCube or not.
To be honest... I have no clue why a revision was made at all. That's what's so confusing about it... Lots of question marks... 

The only two reasons why I believe that this is true is that they're undeniably similar to PCNY and because I don't believe Ahiru would collect hacks...

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3 hours ago, ajxpk said:

Just for clarification... ALL ネガイボシ Distributions were made using GameCubes. So this has nothing to do with GameCube or not.
To be honest... I have no clue why a revision was made at all. That's what's so confusing about it... Lots of question marks... 

The only two reasons why I believe that this is true is that they're undeniably similar to PCNY and because I don't believe Ahiru would collect hacks...

Additionally this:
Capture.PNG

 

 

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12 hours ago, honcoop91 said:

Is there a reason none of the Pokepark Meowths i have come with the move Petal Dance like the serebii listed event?

and the saves from that website dont even have meowth at all?

Petal Dance is an egg move from the PCJP04 event, not Pokepark. I'm not sure what you're asking, Ahiru's Wonderland has two different Pokepark Meowths and dozens of different PCJP04 Petal Dance Meowth eggs.

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OK, meanwhile I did research about this, there were 2 different Versions of the Distribution, at least now I think we should see them this way. One of them was with Nintendo Game Cube and the other one using a Nintendo Game Cube Development System. Some people might be confused about it just the way I was, so this is for your information...

Nintendo GameCube Version:
- Performed with a normal Nintendo Game Cube with a Game Boy Advance Cable were you got connected with your GBA, identical to the Pokemon Center 5th Anniversary.
- Seeded with RTC, then Jirachi was generated with the 3rd rand() call.
- Generated normally as BACD.
- Game Origin was always Ruby and OTG Male Only.
- RTC reseed for the Berry then rand() &1 to determine Ganlon or Salac Berry.
-This is the one we have. 
- Confirmed being distributed at Ito-Yokado, JUSCO, Toys "R" Us and HelloMac.

Nintendo GameCube Development System Version:
- Performed with a modified Nintendo GameCube Development System that had a cartridge Slot were you inserted your cartridge.
- Apparently seeded with RTC, then the rand() is looped until button press (A?).
- Generated as BACD but PID == PID High ^ Trainer ID ^ Secret ID | PID Low
- Game Origin and OTG are taken from the Trainer Info from the save file.
- Seeded with RTC most likely reseeded for the Berry rand() &1 to determine Ganlon or Salac Berry. (Needs to be confirmed...)
- This is the one we don't have.
- Confirmed being distributed at Pokemon Festa 2003 and World Hobby Fair '18.


For more information and again thanks to @Lycp01:



It looks like the Bulbapedia article got updated,  but as always they got it wrong and mixed it completely up.
@Sabresite can you fix it? I would recommend splitting Negaiboshi Jirachi, as one of them can be OTG Male only. I think it needs to be visualized that 2 different versions were distributed. Especially considering how different these two Jirachi's are.

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@Lycp01 has already told us about it before, I have linked his posts above... There you also can find the 2ch posts.

On 4/13/2018 at 7:54 PM, Lycp01 said:

I found some replies that Ito-Yokado, JUSCO, Toys "R" Us and HelloMac used the GameCube discs.(the distribution of the movie advance ticket(Negaiboshi))

Because contents are dangerous, I do not translate it. It turned out that my memory was correct.:D


sample0519.bin was distributed via GCN Disc which has long been confirmed. Without hacking it would be incompatible to use without a Nintendo GameCube. The Multiboot ROM of Negaiboshi Jirachi has only JOY Bus functions and as we know it is too big, Nintendo would never have distributed it GBA to GBA the way it is as it would be too slow. Without a shadow of a doubt it was made for JOY Bus, same as Pokemon Center 5th Anniversary and the Berry Program Update.

The other Development System Multiboot ROM however would have been more suitable for a GBA to GBA distribution. I already confirmed that it must have been way smaller than the one we have since the ReadFlash subroutine was apparently located at 0x0200CFXX. This has lead to my assumption that it could have been distributed via GBA, but after you explained to me how the PCNY Events worked it was clear to me that this is what Lycp01 explained to us. And this is that one type of Distribution was with Nintendo GameCube Development System and the other one using a normal Nintendo GameCube.

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