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PKhex Legality Check - mIssing Event

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Hello. I'm new to PKhex and i encounter some problem...

1. Missing mystery gift in database.

So i'm trying to move my event Rayquazza from Black to Alpha Sapphire... And somehow it's unable to match with the gift database... (I already attached the WC for research purpose)

Card # 0059 - くろいレックウザ プレゼント.pgf

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Reference:
http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/384.shtml#2012

2. Event OT affection should be 0

Next, event Camerupt. Yeah, i know it should be 0, but i "received" it by import WC (delivered by a guy from pokemon center), not from pkm file...
 

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3. Evolution not valid

And Event Vivillon is missing from event database too...

Somehow, it doesn't have have any relearn move too...

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I got it those WCs  (for 2nd and 3rd problem) from:

4.  Transferring from gen 4 to gen 6

I transferred my Feraligatr from HG (Totodile starter) to AS by following this tutorial: https://forum.romulation.net/threads/migrating-gen-iii-v-pokamon-to-gen-vi-using-pkhex-and-pokagen-gen-v.63889/

But it didn't go well... Although i already reroll the PID for several times.

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PS: Sorry for the messy post. Thanks.

 

Edited by flixwito
minor edit, lel

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2 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

Erm, why would you need to reroll the PID.

Show me a screenshot of said error for the Feraligatr

There ya go.

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9 minutes ago, flixwito said:

There ya go.

for now, assume there's an error with all mystery gift detection.

The thing I don't get it, there isn't legality analysis for pre gen 6 pokemon previously,
so glad to see it's implemented!

Try changing the PID to 42E21594
(I'm assuming it wasn't shiny in back in HGSS)

Also, the origin game shouldn't be Black2, but HG/SS
and I doubt it will have any relearn moves.

It's starting to look like a recreation, not an original transfer.

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1 hour ago, theSLAYER said:

Try changing the PID to 42E21594
(I'm assuming it wasn't shiny in back in HGSS)

I rebooted the PKhex, somehow, the PID problem is gone. And it's still "shiny".

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Yes, it wasn't shiny at first. I just want to recreate my old memories. When the first time i'm playing Pokemon Crystal on Java mobile phone, the starter was shiny. I thought that spinning sparkle means "Your first partner is rolling out". But the save got corrupted after beating the pokemon league. Years later, i found out that it was shiny and it's hard to get, and i was, damn... That's how i met AR and sav editor.

1 hour ago, theSLAYER said:

Also, the origin game shouldn't be Black2, but HG/SS

and I doubt it will have any relearn moves.

It's starting to look like a recreation, not an original transfer.

There's no any location prior to gen 5.

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Hope this helps, thanks.

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For the Feraligatr
Origin Game: HGSS, Met location: Poke transfer.

In case you are unconvinced, a Pokemon I legitimately caught in HeartGold and transferred up:
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Explanation on the mechanics:
1. All Pokemon retain their "Origin Game" (the game they were caught/encountered/hatched in)
2. The location was updated when it gets transferred from Gen 3 -> 4 -> 5
3. When transferred to Gen 6&7, it's location data stays as per gen 5, but isn't displayed in game

 

It'll probably be better if you play HGSS on an emulator,
load that save in PKHeX and make the changes,
then save that pokemon as a pk4, and import it into AS save on PKHeX.
 

Should reduce the amount of errors you're triggering.

(meaning catch the Pokemon then minor modify it. would prevent all this errors)

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7 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

For the Feraligatr
Origin Game: HGSS, Met location: Poke transfer.

Oh, my bad, haha

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The PID problem is back, yeah, maybe it's the shiny thingy. Even if i make it "not shiny", it's still unable to match origin game.

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Seems legit to me, lol. Besides, emulator can't go online (except desmume). I will wait for the next PKhex update then. xD

Thank you so much for the help.

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17 minutes ago, flixwito said:

Oh, my bad, haha

 

The PID problem is back, yeah, maybe it's the shiny thingy. Even if i make it "not shiny", it's still unable to match origin game.

 

Seems legit to me, lol. Besides, emulator can't go online (except desmume). I will wait for the next PKhex update then. xD

Thank you so much for the help.

no no, what I mean is catch your pokemon in emulator,
drag the save into pkhex, dump the pokemon,
then import int your AS save in pkhex.

Also, upload the Feraligatr here.
 

Edit: also, fella Singaporean, my Feral works just fine:
160 ★ - Feraligatr - D91AA19136EA.pk6

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1 minute ago, theSLAYER said:

no no, what I mean is catch your pokemon in emulator,
drag the save into pkhex, dump the pokemon,
then import int your AS save in pkhex.

Also, upload the feraligatr here.

You mean, like this?

Caught in black 2 using AR: Feraligatr caught in black 2.pk5

Dragging to AS (not edited): Feraligatr dragged to AS.pk6

 

Original from Black: 160 ★ - FERALIGATR - 5F743234A548.pk5

Original from HG: 160 - FERALIGATR - 3B403ECA7F93.pk4

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14 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

@flixwito
If you drag the .pk4 into your PKHeX window when opening the AS save, it'll emulate the transfer process for you.
 

Never thought it was that easy, lol. Maybe it was his nature afterall. Just changed the IV, rerolling PID, shinify. Everything goes well.

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But, i found out that changing the memories from "somewhere" to the "pokemon center" (just like the "migrating tutorial" above says) seems to cause the PID problem too. Except if the transferred pokemon's origin was actually from gen 5. So i won't touch that thing.

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Thank you so much for your help. xD

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@flixwito well there's many mechanics involved, so its best to make as minimal changes and simple changes as possible.

It's always easier to catch something normally, then do limited changes, if you're not too sure about the mechanics involved.

 

Glad to help.

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Also keep in mind that while PKHex may tell you the PID/IVs for a Gen 3/4 pokemon is legal, that may not be the case.  The PID/IV are algorithmically linked.  When you reroll, PKhex doesn't do it according to the algorithm.  While this is fine for personal use, just keep in mind that collectors do check these things if you trade.

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On 25/4/2017 at 3:13 AM, Sabresite said:

Also keep in mind that while PKHex may tell you the PID/IVs for a Gen 3/4 pokemon is legal, that may not be the case.  The PID/IV are algorithmically linked.  When you reroll, PKhex doesn't do it according to the algorithm.  While this is fine for personal use, just keep in mind that collectors do check these things if you trade.

Thanks, i will keep that in mind.

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