Unreleased Prototype Pokemon

[Aurum]

2 hours ago, Ruby Genseki said:

It somehow bothers me to see how you deliberarely fled that shiny Starly ._. I mean, considering the other wild Pokémon weren't shiny I'm assuming it's most likely legal.

No need to worry. It appeared because I'm abusing the Cute Charm glitch

[St. GIGA]

@Purin I was talking about how to get oras demo anytime.

 

At hex offset 108d6a in the debug crystal rom kabiin

venasaur's 4-byte OT name can be found. The I'd is 23 01 in hex just before that. This should be enough to extract the pokemon.

Edited August 27, 2017 by St. GIGA

[Got_Eevees]

@everyone

O.O. so...

is anyone else who's barely going to start learning C a bit lost here?

I understand most of it but the rest....

I'm having trouble with hexadecimal.. :/.

[jojo12100]

1 hour ago, St. GIGA said:

At hex offset 108d6a in the debug crystal rom kabiin

venasaur's 4-byte OT name can be found. The I'd is 23 01 in hex just before that. This should be enough to extract the pokemon.

So actually I have a RAM dump of the debug trades but even with the map I'm unable to understand where to search. Maybe @BlackShark will be able to do it?

But I have a bad feeling about them (missing datas).

DebugTrade.DMP

[St. GIGA]

In that case if we cannot extract them we can reconstruct them based on some of the other debugger pokemon in my save of JPN debuggers pokemon.

 

To reconstruct the Venasaur I took Satoru Iwata's Meganium and changed the ID and OT to Nishino's, while I changed the other dumped DEBUG Charizard to the ID and OT of Matsumiya. Do note that these are reconstructions so you know what bytes to look for in the dump file. They may also replace the others if we can't dump them under new policy, therefore making this a troll Charizard/Venasaur. These edits still belonged to debuggers, and the edit was in their power to do via another debug menu in the patch that GG codes can give you. No caught data for you :{ No moves were edited, so Venasaur is legal, and debug charizard keeps it's debug moves.

RECONSTRUCTED_JPN_DEBUGGERS_PKMN.sav

006 - リザードン - 5F4A.pk2

003 - フシギバナ - D8E9.pk2

JPNDEBUGGERS_WITH_RECONSTRUCTED_DEBUG_TRADES.zip

Edited August 27, 2017 by St. GIGA
added files

[Aurum]

I have a question. How would I provide my Roaming Darkrai file in the downloads section? All the options are grayed out.

[jojo12100]

3 minutes ago, Aurum said:

I have a question. How would I provide my Roaming Darkrai file in the downloads section? All the options are grayed out.

In Unreleased Events but if you don't have access let @theSLAYER do this.

[Aurum]

Yup, seems like I don't have access to this section. I'll send him a private message. Thanks.

[jojo12100]

2 minutes ago, Aurum said:

Yup, seems like I don't have access to this section. I'll send him a private message. Thanks.

Write it here instead, it was created for that.

[Aurum]

Oh well, now it's too late. I've already sent him a private message.

[Deoxyz]

@Aurum Do you know if Darkrai has the roaming data in Diamond and Pearl also, or just Platinum? To me it seems like a scrapped feature that would've been carried over from DP code, rather than something scrapped from Platinum development, but that's just my speculation.

[Aurum]

I was thinking the same when I discovered this yesterday. In fact, the Darkrai that is found on Newmoon Island in DP is at lvl. 40 as well. I haven't tested if it exists in DP as well. I'll test it asap, though.

EDIT: Yup, it exists in DP as well:

Edited August 28, 2017 by Aurum

[wrathsoffire76]

Has anyone thought of getting the Battle Factory rentals from Platinum and HGSS? That would be cool (And large)

[Deoxyz]

@Aurum Thanks for checking it out! I guess that confirms our theory then.

I wonder if this could infer that at one point Darkrai wasn't meant to be a mythical pokemon, rather a regular in-game legendary. Perhaps more likely though, it was still supposed to be a mythical, but flee from New Moon Island once you gain access to it, as it is Cresselia's counterpart.

[BlackShark]

1 hour ago, wrathsoffire76 said:

Has anyone thought of getting the Battle Factory rentals from Platinum and HGSS? That would be cool (And large)

Aren't those Pokemon randomly generated each time? Or is there actually a list of Pokemon that are possible to rent? I mean if they are random this would be too much to get them as you can literally get anything there with a few exceptions.

By the way for Platinum (US) while you are in the Battle Factory you will find the Pokemon from the selection screen in the RAM at 0x022AE2B0 - 0x022AE837

Here's an example from Lv 50 SIngle Battle: Treecko.ek4

[wrathsoffire76]

14 minutes ago, BlackShark said:

Aren't those Pokemon randomly generated each time? Or is there actually a list of Pokemon that are possible to rent? I mean if they are random this would be too much to get them as you can literally get anything there with a few exceptions.

By the way for Platinum (US) while you are in the Battle Factory you will find the Pokemon from the selection screen in the RAM at 0x022AE2B0 - 0x022AE837

Here's an example from Lv 50 SIngle Battle: Treecko.ek4

They are random, but there is a fixed list of them. I think the full list is on Smogon.

Update: I found the list

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-frontier-max-stats-pokemon-database.15426/

Edited August 28, 2017 by wrathsoffire76

[Ruby Genseki]

1 hour ago, Deoxyz said:

I wonder if this could infer that at one point Darkrai wasn't meant to be a mythical pokemon, rather a regular in-game legendary. Perhaps more likely though, it was still supposed to be a mythical, but flee from New Moon Island once you gain access to it, as it is Cresselia's counterpart.

It's always seemed so strange for Darkrai to be a mythical Pokémon while its counterpart is just a regular ol' legendary. Maybe it's just me, but it feels so uncanny.

 

39 minutes ago, BlackShark said:

Aren't those Pokemon randomly generated each time? Or is there actually a list of Pokemon that are possible to rent?

Partially. While things such as PID, gender, ability, and sometimes IVs* are randomly generated, all of these Pokémon have a preset nature, moveset, items, and most times IVs*.

*IVs are a particular case, since, as far as I remember, non-Super Battle Subway and Maison use Pokémon with randomly generated IVs, whereas "Super" modes have all set to 31.

Adding to what wrathsoffire76 said, Smogon keeps a full list of these preset characteristics (be it for rent Pokémon or for NPC ones), not only for Battle Factory but for every battle facility. Serebii and Bulbapedia have these lists as well, and while the latter ones are easier to navigate, Smogon is usually a bit more technical.

[theSLAYER]

@Aurum is the Darkrai roaming script in HGSS?

an edit:
-updated: Uncatchable Tutorial Pokemon
-added: Unobtainable Roaming Darkai
-added: Cal's Pokemon
-added: Carrie's Pokemon
 

[Deoxyz]

Now that I'm thinking about it, does this roaming Darkrai have the same initial moveset as the New Moon Island one in DP? That could further the theory of its original intent.

I can't find the DP New Moon Island Darkrai's initial moveset anywhere online, and my old Diamond Darkrai isn't untouched. From looking at my Platinum though, that New Moon Island Darkrai has a different moveset since it is 10 levels higher.

[theSLAYER]

43 minutes ago, Deoxyz said:

Now that I'm thinking about it, does this roaming Darkrai have the same initial moveset as the New Moon Island one in DP? That could further the theory of its original intent.

I can't find the DP New Moon Island Darkrai's initial moveset anywhere online, and my old Diamond Darkrai isn't untouched. From looking at my Platinum though, that New Moon Island Darkrai has a different moveset since it is 10 levels higher.

I've got the file on site.
I just checked, NMI darkrai moves are Quick Attack, Hypnosis, Pursuit, Nightmare.
(Well, if it's encountered at the same level, and the game uses the same method of generating moves in a Pokemon,
It's gonna have the same moves, tho)

edit:
The Roaming one has Feint Attack instead of Pursuit.

 

edit2:
Added: Map 0xFE Pokemon
Added: PkmnStadium2 Rental Pokemon
Added: Rental Passes Pokemon

[Lum]

Anybody know if a Korean Manaphy Egg was distributed? Or a way to activate the event as close as it would've been intended.

Pokemon Ranger wasn't released in Korea, but the location met and associated text might be translated (if unused) in the gen 4 games.

[jojo12100]

5 hours ago, Lum said:

Anybody know if a Korean Manaphy Egg was distributed? Or a way to activate the event as close as it would've been intended.

Pokemon Ranger wasn't released in Korea, but the location met and associated text might be translated (if unused) in the gen 4 games.

 

It's a bit off topic but 2 Manaphy were distributed (not as egg unfortunately) in gen4 in Korea (here) and 1 in gen6 to commemorate the movie.

[BlackShark]

5 hours ago, Lum said:

Anybody know if a Korean Manaphy Egg was distributed? Or a way to activate the event as close as it would've been intended.

Pokemon Ranger wasn't released in Korea, but the location met and associated text might be translated (if unused) in the gen 4 games.

If you take a look at the Manaphy Egg PGT files from other regions you will notice that they don't differ. So I would assume that a Korean Manaphy Egg PGT would have been identical as well. They all don't have a wondercard (PCD) anyway.

[Lum]

26 minutes ago, BlackShark said:

If you take a look at the Manaphy Egg PGT files from other regions you will notice that they don't differ. So I would assume that a Korean Manaphy Egg PGT would have been identical as well. They all don't have a wondercard (PCD) anyway.

 

Okay. OT and nickname don't matter for eggs. That just leaves the question of how make the game display the Korean equivalents of "A very mysterious Pokemon Egg that came from Pokemon Ranger" and "Pokemon Ranger Egg Arrived".

[BlackShark]

5 hours ago, Lum said:

 

Okay. OT and nickname don't matter for eggs. That just leaves the question of how make the game display the Korean equivalents of "A very mysterious Pokemon Egg that came from Pokemon Ranger" and "Pokemon Ranger Egg Arrived".

That is read from the ROM, it's not stored in the Pokemon data. There are just index values so the game knows what to display.

By the way, it's interestng how the decrypted Manaphy Egg PGT looks like. The species isn't even in the PKM data, it's only determined by the gift type. They really could have left the PKM data blank like they do for other non-PKM gift types.

Spoiler

07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 04 1F 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 
E2 00 E2 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 E2 00 FF FF 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00

We only have the following data set, anything else is left blank:
Gift type: Manaphy Egg (0x07)
PID: 0x00000001
Checksum: 0x1F04
Nickname: ？？？？？？？？？？
OT Name: ？？？？？？？
Poke Ball: Cherish Ball (0x10)
Level: 1
Current HP: 1
Max HP: 1