# Legal PID for a shiny?

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I was wondering if there was a PID that would give me good attack, speed, and 30 HP IV's that was Adamant and Shiny?

In other words, is there a PID that gives me an Adamant, Shiny pokemon with 30 HP IV's? I REALLY need one.

Also, is there a PID list somewhere?

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There might be but i'm not sure. Trying to have a specific amount of IV's, a specific nature, being shiny and matching your TID/SID is not always possible. Even if it is, it will take forever for someone to find one.

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I was wondering if there was a PID that would give me good attack, speed, and 30 HP IV's that was Adamant and Shiny?

In other words, is there a PID that gives me an Adamant, Shiny pokemon with 30 HP IV's? I REALLY need one.

Also, is there a PID list somewhere?

~X

You don't specify your ID/SID, so the following PVs are shiny for the indicated OTID and OTSID. All these PVs match your (quite open) specifications, so choose the one that best suits your needs. Gender label is based on a gender probability of 50%, so depending on the pokemon species that you are going to apply the PV to, actual pokemon gender might be different, but this doesn't really matter for your purposes.

PV=2501467678 OTID=58009 OTSID=10652   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=29 Spd=31 SAtk=31 SDef=31 (Sum=183)   HPow=67(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=0971034953 OTID=30642 OTSID=40734   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=30 Spd=31 SAtk=31 SDef=30 (Sum=183)   HPow=70(GHOST)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=3385264303 OTID=46585 OTSID=29841   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=31 SDef=28 (Sum=182)   HPow=49(STEEL)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=3805358803 OTID=54762 OTSID=07662   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=29 SDef=30 (Sum=182)   HPow=59(STEEL)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=3346458753 OTID=49586 OTSID=60994   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=29 Spd=31 SAtk=30 SDef=30 (Sum=181)   HPow=67(GROUND)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=0866276128 OTID=27783 OTSID=03077   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=28 Spd=31 SAtk=30 SDef=31 (Sum=181)   HPow=67(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=0219640028 OTID=31507 OTSID=01755   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=30 SDef=27 (Sum=180)   HPow=70(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=4245445553 OTID=54086 OTSID=30205   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=30 SDef=27 (Sum=180)   HPow=70(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=0639734528 OTID=48103 OTSID=03780   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=28 SDef=29 (Sum=180)   HPow=39(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=3026381428 OTID=45489 OTSID=61347   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=30 Spd=31 SAtk=29 SDef=29 (Sum=180)   HPow=39(ICE)      Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=0234830203 OTID=22561 OTSID=27810   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=30 SDef=27 (Sum=180)   HPow=70(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=4113104278 OTID=45957 OTSID=47935   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=30 SDef=30 (Sum=179)   HPow=70(GROUND)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=0809897103 OTID=40072 OTSID=41025   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=29 SDef=31 (Sum=179)   HPow=59(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=2836795603 OTID=57624 OTSID=22750   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=31 SDef=29 (Sum=179)   HPow=49(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=1306362878 OTID=25014 OTSID=44946   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=28 Spd=31 SAtk=31 SDef=28 (Sum=179)   HPow=47(GHOST)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=1850089928 OTID=60619 OTSID=41798   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=27 SDef=29 (Sum=179)   HPow=49(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=2035442678 OTID=25966 OTSID=32715   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=28 SDef=31 (Sum=178)   HPow=59(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=2516718278 OTID=33563 OTSID=02010   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=28 Spd=31 SAtk=30 SDef=28 (Sum=178)   HPow=47(POISON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=0505009953 OTID=62660 OTSID=15871   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=28 Spd=31 SAtk=28 SDef=30 (Sum=178)   HPow=57(POISON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=1406380053 OTID=47427 OTSID=17029   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=29 Spd=31 SAtk=28 SDef=29 (Sum=178)   HPow=36(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=2190159503 OTID=39193 OTSID=13597   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=30 Spd=31 SAtk=31 SDef=25 (Sum=178)   HPow=49(ICE)      Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=1079821278 OTID=21354 OTSID=53485   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=29 SDef=26 (Sum=178)   HPow=59(STEEL)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=0366187228 OTID=40478 OTSID=06417   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=25 Spd=31 SAtk=30 SDef=31 (Sum=178)   HPow=67(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=2921622603 OTID=56216 OTSID=06645   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=28 Spd=31 SAtk=28 SDef=30 (Sum=178)   HPow=57(POISON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=3588250953 OTID=20083 OTSID=50905   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=25 Spd=31 SAtk=31 SDef=29 (Sum=177)   HPow=47(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=4008345453 OTID=32506 OTSID=61310   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=25 Spd=31 SAtk=29 SDef=31 (Sum=177)   HPow=57(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=2477912728 OTID=21622 OTSID=13659   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=26 Spd=31 SAtk=29 SDef=30 (Sum=177)   HPow=59(GHOST)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=0605027128 OTID=65114 OTSID=08553   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=29 Spd=31 SAtk=25 SDef=31 (Sum=177)   HPow=57(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=2290176678 OTID=54980 OTSID=03301   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=28 SDef=26 (Sum=177)   HPow=59(GROUND)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=0554967953 OTID=26398 OTSID=26013   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=29 Spd=31 SAtk=30 SDef=25 (Sum=176)   HPow=47(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=3019256478 OTID=56018 OTSID=23481   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=30 Spd=31 SAtk=25 SDef=29 (Sum=176)   HPow=39(ICE)      Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=3500532078 OTID=63788 OTSID=51429   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=27 SDef=26 (Sum=176)   HPow=70(STEEL)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=1488823753 OTID=28772 OTSID=36115   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=25 SDef=28 (Sum=176)   HPow=39(STEEL)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=3361709353 OTID=55904 OTSID=36630   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=28 Spd=31 SAtk=29 SDef=27 (Sum=176)   HPow=57(ICE)      Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=1350001028 OTID=50985 OTSID=63199   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=28 Spd=31 SAtk=27 SDef=29 (Sum=176)   HPow=47(ICE)      Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=0239662803 OTID=44478 OTSID=21794   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=29 Spd=31 SAtk=25 SDef=30 (Sum=176)   HPow=57(STEEL)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=3905436403 OTID=47166 OTSID=27137   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=31 Spd=31 SAtk=25 SDef=28 (Sum=176)   HPow=39(STEEL)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=4121873428 OTID=24202 OTSID=26420   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=31 SDef=25 (Sum=175)   HPow=49(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=4090789153 OTID=47535 OTSID=14170   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=26 SDef=30 (Sum=175)   HPow=70(GROUND)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=2560356428 OTID=24829 OTSID=02092   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=28 Spd=31 SAtk=26 SDef=29 (Sum=175)   HPow=47(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=0111258078 OTID=61390 OTSID=16565   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=31 SDef=25 (Sum=175)   HPow=49(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=0080173803 OTID=52778 OTSID=36869   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=26 SDef=30 (Sum=175)   HPow=70(GROUND)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=0654985128 OTID=43033 OTSID=51390   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=30 Spd=31 SAtk=27 SDef=26 (Sum=175)   HPow=70(GHOST)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=0840337878 OTID=55843 OTSID=25058   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=26 Spd=31 SAtk=28 SDef=28 (Sum=174)   HPow=39(POISON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=1321613478 OTID=34776 OTSID=61884   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=30 SDef=25 (Sum=174)   HPow=49(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=0211275253 OTID=30617 OTSID=46841   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=28 Spd=31 SAtk=28 SDef=26 (Sum=174)   HPow=57(POISON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=1865340528 OTID=27841 OTSID=54685   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=30 Spd=31 SAtk=26 SDef=26 (Sum=174)   HPow=70(POISON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=3256950528 OTID=62644 OTSID=10647   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=26 Spd=31 SAtk=28 SDef=28 (Sum=174)   HPow=39(POISON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=1726517803 OTID=50471 OTSID=12773   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=28 SDef=27 (Sum=174)   HPow=59(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=0862713428 OTID=41997 OTSID=24880   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=25 Spd=31 SAtk=31 SDef=25 (Sum=173)   HPow=47(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=0925164878 OTID=29689 OTSID=41366   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=25 SDef=29 (Sum=173)   HPow=39(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F
PV=2050693278 OTID=38669 OTSID=62893   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=26 Spd=31 SAtk=27 SDef=28 (Sum=173)   HPow=49(GHOST)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=0940355053 OTID=54037 OTSID=18161   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=27 Spd=31 SAtk=25 SDef=29 (Sum=173)   HPow=39(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=0293718953 OTID=39788 OTSID=16708   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=30 Spd=31 SAtk=25 SDef=25 (Sum=172)   HPow=39(ICE)      Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=3697037278 OTID=22189 OTSID=50473   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=26 Spd=31 SAtk=29 SDef=25 (Sum=172)   HPow=39(ICE)      Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=1691810403 OTID=48513 OTSID=09013   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=25 Spd=31 SAtk=25 SDef=29 (Sum=171)   HPow=36(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=2895684353 OTID=21260 OTSID=23697   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=26 Spd=31 SAtk=26 SDef=27 (Sum=171)   HPow=70(GRASS)    Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=F
PV=0415501728 OTID=55759 OTSID=52396   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=25 Spd=31 SAtk=26 SDef=28 (Sum=171)   HPow=47(GROUND)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=M
PV=4106039753 OTID=30428 OTSID=45998   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=26 Spd=31 SAtk=25 SDef=27 (Sum=170)   HPow=59(ICE)      Nat=ADAMANT Abl=2ND Gen=M
PV=0855588478 OTID=23364 OTSID=22469   HP=30 Atk=31 Def=25 Spd=31 SAtk=27 SDef=25 (Sum=169)   HPow=47(DRAGON)   Nat=ADAMANT Abl=1ST Gen=F

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Provide the OTID and OTSID and I will generate a rainbow table while I am at work. The rainbow table will have all legal PIDs (just like Kazu did). Thankfully I have a really damn fast quad core machine and a nice beta program I made that utilizes all cores. Works similar to SCV's PID <--> IV program.

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hi this is a very good an interesting thread as u can see im new in the forums and im learning how to pokesav correctly... kazumi213 [or any other user] please u can post ID/SID and PVs to the following natures for a shiny pokemon like the previous post [with good IV`s]?

well the natures are...: modest,calm,timid,naive, i think this will be very useful to many other user's

if any person can help me i will be very thankfull :3

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Heh, I want to bring this topic back up since I also have concerns with legal PIDs for shinies.

Kazumi, I'm curious, how did you generate so many legal PIDs? Did you utilize the same method Sabresite used?

Also, after browsing through Smogon's PRNG research and "abuse" thread, I'm beginning to question whether or not the catch date should be changed to suit the legality of the Pokemon. Please correct me on this if I'm wrong, since I barely have the time to read through the entire article.

Personally, I'm just finding ways to make a PID for a shiny Rotom for use in competitive WiFi battles (and for showing off). However, I want to guarantee that the Rotom is absolutely legal, to avoid speculation during battles.

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Provide this information for shiny PID generation:

- Trainer ID

- Secret ID

- IV's you request (minimum or exactly?)

- Nature you would like to have (or will anything do?)

- Do you want a specific gender or anything will do?

- 30 on all IV's (minimum)

But we need the TID and SID to be able to generate a valid PID that will work for you.

I can make you a PID using a random tid and sid but it does take time to calculate the pids.

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Sure... I'll use these:

TID: 50399

SID: 29386

I never specified I wanted an Adamant nature (hehe). I actually want a Bold nature. Yes, 30 < IVs. Any gender is fine.

Btw, Vlad, how in the world do you generate these? Do you have a supercomputer in your house to make rainbow tables? I'm just curious, after reading a bit of this: http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/pid_iv_creation

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if u can use ur id an sid that guarantees that u will have a legal pid?

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Sure... I'll use these:

TID: 50399

SID: 29386

I never specified I wanted an Adamant nature (hehe). I actually want a Bold nature. Yes, 30 < IVs. Any gender is fine.

If anybody else finds a better IV spread for his specific bold shiny Rotom, please feel free. I like this one:

PV=0305308705   HP=30 Atk=11 Def=30 Spd=31 SAtk=26 SDef=29 (Sum=157)   HPow=49(GRASS)    Nat=BOLD    Abl=N/A Gen=N/A

Regarding you "date caught" question, I've started looking into this just recently, but if I've correctly understood it, you could catch the above Rotom i.e. today 2009-08-15. It would be interesting that another member with advanced knowledge on the subject could confirm this.

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Shress, you don't need one. I just wrote some functions in Java for fun (using smogon formulas). The faster computer you got the faster you can calculate.

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