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Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5


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I was making an event meloetta, but it says It has no event for it to be legal, but on Pokegen, I set it to "obtained in game event" as well as "Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey tree/Shaymin".

EDIT: I see what I did wrong. I needed to set it to "Pokemon Movie 12" instead of "Game event."

>making an event meloetta

This thread is for reporting legitimate Pokemon that have false LA results. Not for making hacked Pokemon look legal.

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That has been an issue for quite some time now. Roamers are in the same boat.

A user had uploaded a level 21 Lucario with moves ExtremeSpeed and Close Combat. This is illegal because Riolu cannot inherit them as level-up egg moves, nor can Lucario have learned them at such a low level. However, the LA flags them as level-up egg moves.

In a similar vein, this is illegal: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3892162

Tyrogue cannot learn either Close Combat, or Detect, so there isn't any way for them to be level-up moves inherited from the parents (and of course Ditto can't learn either move naturally). And obviously Hitmontop itself doesn't learn them until much later.

Edit: Unsurprisingly, the same idiot has another bad hack with the same issue: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3882676 . Same issue as above, this time with Blaze Kick.

Edit 2: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=538500 Gen 3 Shedinja retains the ball Nincada was caught in.

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https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3901763

Met/egg received dates must be between 2000 and 2099 due to the date restrictions set by the console. DS can be 2000-2099, while 3DS can be 2000-2050.

Edit: DSi is also 2000-2099.

Technically the year is stored as a 1 byte value that can legally be between 0x00 and 0x63 inclusive at 0x7B in the .pkm file.

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http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4080228

The egg hatched location must exist in the game version of origin for 4th gen format eggs, unless the Egg Received location is Link Trade. Example, in Solaceon Town does not exist in HG/SS.

Edit: Could there be mouseover text for CntSt to explain that it means Contest Stats? Also, come to think of it, that applies for 5th gen eggs, but even when traded (ie. no B/W1 version w/ egg hatched at Virbank, or B/W2 version w/ egg at Route 10). Just not 4th gen eggs in 5th gen format (hatch location becomes Poketransfer).

Oh and of course, Cold Storage and PWT have the same hex for the location.

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I noticed that eggs hatched in B/W2 that have all flawless (or 30s) for IVs have a red flag for IVs. However, it also shows up for eggs with the egg received location as Link Trade. Could there be an orange message saying "Probably edited or RNG abused on another game" instead?

Edit: https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4094553 That wondercard that I downloaded from this site isn't on the LA. Same with the Sceptile from my account.

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Had to delete some posts to get rid of the offending content.

As Hozu said, the purpose of this thread is to report bugs in Pokecheck's legality analysis. It is not to declare if something is hacked or not or how to make stuff legal.

Anyone going off topic in the thread is eligible for post deletion and infractions. Please feel free to Report or PM me for any rule offenders.

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I'm wondering why the checker doesn't include a check for ribbons. Take this: https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=2362804 , for example. It has several GenIII-only ribbons despite it being obtained in GenIV, not only that it has several Battle Tower/Frontier medals despite Mew being unable to compete in it. Yet Pokécheck says it's ok. Those kind of things would be easy to look for, though I do realise my next suggestions will be a bit harder

There's also "suspicious" (yellow text) things to look out for, but it's a bit harder: for example a Pokémon having the "master" rank medal in 2 or more contest categories would be suspicious - as it's hard to max out 2 stats. Indeed you can even look at the contest stats to see if it has a high stat in a category it got a master rank medal in. Contest stats are still in GenV you just can't see them. If you Pokétransfered a Feebas with max beauty and leveled it up it still evolves. Another thing to look for here would be the fact that for it to have any contest ribbon, it also needs the ribbon that's ranked below it (ie, a pokemon with a genIII master ribbon also needs hyper, super and normal of the same type. without hyper it couldn't compete in master, without super it couldn't compete in hyper, without normal it couldn't compete in super)

For GenIV pokes you check for ribbons removed in GenV, which were presumably removed because they were never used. There are other ribbons still in the code that bulbapedia claim have not been made avialable, http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Ribbons_in_the_games . They'll be hard to verify whether or not they have been made available, but stuff like "World Champion Ribbon" should at least be considered suspicious.

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There's also "suspicious" (yellow text) things to look out for, but it's a bit harder: for example a Pokémon having the "master" rank medal in 2 or more contest categories would be suspicious - as it's hard to max out 2 stats. Indeed you can even look at the contest stats to see if it has a high stat in a category it got a master rank medal in.

I don't know how good poffins can be for raising contest stats in 4th gen, but in 3rd gen it is possible to max out all 5 contest stats apparently... though that requires 4 people (not just 4 GBAs). Thus getting master rank ribbons in all 5 categories isn't impossible. You don't even need to max the contest stats to win them all - I've got all 3rd and 4th gen contest ribbons with ~180ish in all 5 stats. It is possible to get ~180ish in the 5 contest stats with just one cart, though that requires the stat pinch berries (all but Liechi are from Col/XD, Liechi is from Mirage Island only).

Edit: Could there be a question in the FAQ regarding how to get the favourite Pokémon to show in the LA and Battle Vids?

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