Trainer ID, and secret ID

[Necrodox]

03575 is the normal trainer ID on my card in SoulSilver, I got a code to find my SID and that is; 96209. When I plug these values into Pokesav and click "Ok" for that particular Pokemon, I go back and click "Edit" to double check. The values changed from 03575 to 3575, and my SID from 96209 to 65535.

Is there an explanation for this?

I'm trying to make LEGAL duplicates of my team in Pokemon Diamond (lost the game a year or so ago) and apparently there are other methods that need to be used in conjunction with Pokesav to ensure the legality of said Pokemon; anyone mind clarifying?

I apologize if these are reoccurring questions I am a bit new to this stuff, any help is greatly appreciated!

EDIT: Please disregard my question in terms of legality of said Pokemon, I don't know how I missed the stickied guide hah, however if you have any tips for a novice legal Pokemon creator I would greatly appreciate it!

[Feralligates]

If that's only what you're doing, then ditch Pokesav and use PokeGen. PokeGen is far more user-friendly than Pokesav will ever be.

Anyways, your TID changing from 03575 to 3575 is no problem, as the "blank" space is still read as 0. Now, your SID changing I've no clue about...

Like I said, use PokeGen.

[Necrodox]

Now I was reading that legality stickie and it seems it is only for Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum. How would I go about making legal Pokemon in Soul Silver and will PokeGen allow me to do that?

[Feralligates]

There is a Pokesav for HG/SS, but like I said, PokeGen surpasses Pokesav.

And yes, PokeGen supports all NDS PKMN versions.

[Necrodox]

How would I go about checking if a Pokemon from PokeGen is legal, and could you please explain the PID option in the "Main" tab?

[Bassman]

I suspect that the SID may have a maximum value of 65535. The safest way to check SID is to look at the Pokemon in Pokesav or Pokegen. If you can't do that directly, you can trade any Pokemon to me and I can upload the save to check the SID.

There is a program that checks the legality of a Pokemon, but it has its limitations. Event and Pokewalker Pokemon come out as hacked. If the information on the Pokemon is correct and available for that Pokemon then it is probably legal.

Pokegen calculates its PID in conjunction with Nature and IV's (I think). Only certain combinations of IV's will generate a PID in Pokegen. For a Shiny it also takes into account the Trainer ID and SID, unless you generate a Shiny by adjusting SID.

[Feralligates]

Oi! Yes, ID values can't exceed 65535. Definitely the reason why it changes.

Also, so long as you're making your PKMN with the correct info, you'll more than likely produce a legit one.

[Necrodox]

Just saw a tutorial, can't check my SID myself; mind if I trade you a Pokemon now Bassman?

[Feralligates]

Since you must have an AR, you can use a code to check for your SID.

I found one posted by Trikitiger.

Money Reveals SID [start+Select]
(Hold Start+Select)

94000130 FFF30000
62111880 00000000
B2111880 00000000
DA000000 00000086
D6000000 00000088
D2000000 00000000

[Necrodox]

I actually used an AR to find my Secret ID however I am rather skeptical about certain codes producing the incorrect data; I'll try this code and if it matches with the current secret ID I'll assume it is the correct one.

[Necrodox]

Now the secret ID is 30673. !

Maybe I should trade just to be safe?

[Feralligates]

That "current" SID you posted is not correct: ID values can't exceed 65535, as I stated earlier.

EDIT:

Now the secret ID is 30673. !?

Sounds about right.

[Necrodox]

Oh I thought that was simply a fault within Pokesav, they can't EVER exeed 65535 eh? So I guess my SID is 30673! I still can't seem to figure out the whole PID thing, when I click it another window pops up that completely boggles the mind.

The Met, Stats, Attacks and OT/Misc are all filled correctly, also in OT/Misc is extra bytes something I should worry about or simply leave it the stock values?

[Feralligates]

If you hover over anything in PokeGen you'll get an explanation of what is what. Overall, the one thing you can completely ignore is the "Extra bytes" section.

[Necrodox]

So I tried generating a legitimate Darkrai, and this is the outcome;

It seems everything checks out but it's still a hacked Pokemon, ideas?

[Bond697]

could you post the pkm?

[Necrodox]

I'll be sure to post a customizable Darkrai for all to use, I'm still working out the kinks.

[KazoWAR]

The SID displaying as 96209 and not 30673 is a from a typo I made in making the code. The money is stored as a 32-bit singed int and the SID is a 16-bit unsigned int.

The code overwrites the first 16 bits with the bits form the SID when if should overwrite all 32-bits. If you had 65535 or less cash, then all the bits used by the cash will be replaced and your SID is shown. If you have 65536 or more. then there are bits in the upper half of the 32 bit value that is not modified, so the number displayed is the SID plus upper half the of the 32-bit value.

So results are:

SID (0000000000000000XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

65536 + SID (0000000000000001XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

131072 + SID (0000000000000010XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

196608 + SID (0000000000000011XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

262144 + SID (0000000000000100XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

327680 + SID (0000000000000101XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

393216 + SID (0000000000000110XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

458752 + SID (0000000000000111XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

524288 + SID (0000000000001000XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

589824 + SID (0000000000001001XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

655360 + SID (0000000000001010XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

720896 + SID (0000000000001011XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

786432 + SID (0000000000001100XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

851968 + SID (0000000000001101XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

917504 + SID (0000000000001110XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

983040 + SID (0000000000001111XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

Since the fixed code showed the SID of 30673, that would be the second result. 65536 + 30673 = 96209