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    My second team I made needs help

    My team is built around hitting hard and fast but I have a few weaknesses I need addressed. So here is my team.

    Old Team
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    Azelf @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
    Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - Psychic
    - Stealth Rock
    - Explosion
    - Fire Blast
    ---I took a standard lead because before Heatran was my lead but I needed fire for longer so I changed up my team

    Heatran (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 SDef
    Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Earth Power
    - Explosion
    - Stone Edge
    ---My main attacker due to his great typing and speed, I don't like to be locked into a move so I chose power over speed

    Celebi @ Life Orb
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 76 HP/180 Spd/252 SAtk
    Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Grass Knot
    - Psychic
    - Recover
    ---Compiments Heatran with his typing to help against waters like swampert

    Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Hyper Cutter
    EVs: 252 HP/40 Def/216 Spd
    Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Roost
    - Stone Edge
    - Ice Fang
    ---My defensive wall that I use like a attacker, this has not ended well for me

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 Def/80 SAtk/176 SDef
    Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Toxic
    - Flamethrower
    ---The best wall in OU in my opinion, I chose flame over ice because I got into a pp stall with jirachi and lost

    Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 32 HP/252 Atk/224 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Bullet Punch
    - Brick Break
    - Roost
    ---Here for more power.


    New Team
    Spoiler
    Mamoswine (F) @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Snow Cloak
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Ice Shard
    - Earthquake
    - Protect
    ---
    Heatran (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 SDef
    Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Earth Power
    - Explosion
    - Dragon Pulse
    ---
    Celebi @ Life Orb
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 76 HP/180 Spd/252 SAtk
    Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Grass Knot
    - Psychic
    - Recover
    ---
    Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Stone Edge
    - Ice Fang
    ---
    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 Def/80 SAtk/176 SDef
    Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Toxic
    - Flamethrower
    ---
    Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 32 HP/252 Atk/224 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Bullet Punch
    - Brick Break
    - Roost
    ---

    I know my team has many holes but I have trouble seeing them myself. Any helpful comments would be appreciated.
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    Re: My second team I made needs help

    Hey bear! Had the honour of facing this team a while ago.

    Azelf - Standard

    Heatran - All good, you might wanna choose choice scarf actually, heatran has alot of power, but he's 4x weak to the ever used earthquake. So his defences might not let him survive for that long, more so you have life orb equiped. Heatran does have a lot of power, but in order for me to effectively use it would be choice scarf, Shuca Berry can also end it's ground problem.

    Celebi - good stuff

    Gliscor - Just watch out for ice attacks, ice shard will end him.

    Blissey - yea hands down this is the best special wall. You could try seismic toss, but that would render you useless to ghost pokemon.

    Scizor - Standard

    Pokemon to be Weary about.

    Infernape - Becareful for this dude, it will beat your Azelf in a lead battle everytime..
    it will outspeed your heatran and close combat, fire blast celebi, close combat blissey and fire blast scizor all for OHKOs

    Mamoswine can Eq Heatran, Iceshard gliscor/celebi and superpower blissey.

    Salamence - flamethowers your scizor and celebi, eqs your heatran.

    Weaville - Weaville is really a problem to your team, beating your Azelf, Heatran, Celebi, Gliscor, Blissey in speed and OHKOing all of them. Luckily Scizor makes an excellent counter
    by throwing a quick bullet punch.

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    Re: My second team I made needs help

    Quote Originally Posted by memjee View Post
    Hey bear! Had the honour of facing this team a while ago.

    Azelf - Standard

    Heatran - All good, you might wanna choose choice scarf actually, heatran has alot of power, but he's 4x weak to the ever used earthquake. So his defences might not let him survive for that long, more so you have life orb equiped. Heatran does have a lot of power, but in order for me to effectively use it would be choice scarf, Shuca Berry can also end it's ground problem.

    Celebi - good stuff

    Gliscor - Just watch out for ice attacks, ice shard will end him.

    Blissey - yea hands down this is the best special wall. You could try seismic toss, but that would render you useless to ghost pokemon.

    Scizor - Standard

    Pokemon to be Weary about.

    Infernape - Becareful for this dude, it will beat your Azelf in a lead battle everytime..
    it will outspeed your heatran and close combat, fire blast celebi, close combat blissey and fire blast scizor all for OHKOs

    Mamoswine can Eq Heatran, Iceshard gliscor/celebi and superpower blissey.

    Salamence - flamethowers your scizor and celebi, eqs your heatran.

    Weaville - Weaville is really a problem to your team, beating your Azelf, Heatran, Celebi, Gliscor, Blissey in speed and OHKOing all of them. Luckily Scizor makes an excellent counter
    by throwing a quick bullet punch.
    Thanks I will revamp my team with these recommendations in mind.

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    Re: My second team I made needs help

    Heatran should not have stone edge. Switch it for Dragon Pulse. I reccomend you give him Choice Scarf as well. If you do, change the EVs for 252 in Speed instead of SDef. If you leave it as is, either put some EVs into speed or give him Modest to further boost his attack.

    More in depth rate will come later.

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    Re: My second team I made needs help

    I revamped my team and I hope these changes help.

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