Rule: Ladies First

[YuzuruHitokiri]

I say that the rule is only valid if the male chooses to let her be first, not if the female gets snotty about the rule.

The rule should be invalidated (temporarily) if the female says that line at all...

Which is any usage today... The only time I've seen it mentioned is if they want to be so damn lazy that they can't open the door in front of them and saying "Ladies first..." is just their way of saying "Open this door, I don't want to"...

Am I the only one who fails to see what the 'debate' is here?
Either way I shall randomly rant for I grow bored.

As for the origin of the phrase, as far as I knew it was due to the fact that in earlier days if women were allowed to walk behind a man they'd be able to run away so in order to keep an eye on them the phrase women first came to be. Another theory I heard was that when Moses was instructed to inform the people of Israel about the Torah, he was told to "speak to the house of Jacob, and tell the sons of Israel." Since the house of Jacob appears first in the instructions, and it refers to women, the theory follows that Moses had to speak first with the ladies.

I for one was raised as a gentleman and open doors for women and all that 'sweet' stuff. Is it sexist? To some yeah it is but I don't think it's a big deal if a woman doesn't like that sort of stuff and is 'big girl' that can take care of herself they should just voice it. Either way that ends my random rant.

P.S.
For the record I don't consider myself a gentleman just because I tend to be an ass (ass =/= refined == not a gentlemen)

(As for the 'debate' of this being in question, I'll change that...)
So you're saying that the problem lies at the woman's discretion?... That the man should do it on the woman's wim?...

I find it very gentlemanly of a guy to allow a woman to go first, like in opening doors for her out/into a car, or into a restaurant. That to me is so sweet, no matter who the man may be. As they say, "Ladies first, after you, m'dear"

And hey, guys. Please be respectful to us women here. (Not saying you aren't, but it's the tone that I feel...) Not all of us are snotty. =/
(All of us have our moments, but give us a break, we have reason for it! )

I don't think you are from around where I am because I've never heard "m'dear" anywhere but on the television and, as I've said above, "Ladies first..." has only been used when women around here were demanding that their husbands, boyfriends, etc. immediately come and do a task for them... I don't think all women are so rude, and I still open doors out of common courtesy, but I think that neither "Ladies first..." or men being such wonderful gentlemen has anything to do with it... I just do it automatically, no thought attached... Even for men/couples as well... But if a woman wants to be so demanding to say "Ladies first..." and start standing in front of a door, impatiently tapping her foot, I think she can open her own damn door!...

[ASuch]

Women do take advantage of that. But it does make a great insult.

[Shadowlord757]

It's nice to treat a lady with such respect, but it shouldnt just be took upon the woman just to get ahead! We are all equal, arent we?

[Pingouin7]

Which is any usage today... The only time I've seen it mentioned is if they want to be so damn lazy that they can't open the door in front of them and saying "Ladies first..." is just their way of saying "Open this door, I don't want to"...

In that case, you open the door, but go in first.

[Fawful Of Ice]

Out of common courtacy for me. though somtimes it doesnt turn out the best, as i can tend to have a bit of a split personality :{

[Fawful Of Ice]

Out of common courtacy for me. though somtimes it doesnt turn out the best, as i can tend to have a bit of a split personality
EDIT: my stupid phone...i made a mistake in the smilely, so i went back to change it, but my phone posted the first one anyway -.-

[Tbird]

Ladies first? Psht out of common decency I'll hold the door open for anyone, people open and hold the door for me all the time so why not?

[Riolu Aura Sphere Now]

I was raised with manners so as for me saying Ladies First is just how I was raised. I open doors for anyone who is coming before or after me. I am a gentleman, but I do have two personalities and that tends to make me over due it from time to time.

You know how they say when you are a Gemini that your other personality tends to come out when you least expect it.

A lot of people now a days tends not to say Ladies First for respect or having manners, but rather use that phrase as an insult or joking around.

[YuzuruHitokiri]

It's nice to treat a lady with such respect, but it shouldnt just be took upon the woman just to get ahead! We are all equal, arent we?

(We aren't truly equal, but we're getting closer...) If a woman wants to be equal, they shouldn't expect special treatment. Gentlemanship has no female equivalent. When the day comes that I find it, then we can say men and women are equal...

In that case, you open the door, but go in first.

But if they were demanding that I open it, they've push their way through (yes, they've been aggressive) and sometimes hurt themselves in the process...

I was raised with manners so as for me saying Ladies First is just how I was raised. I open doors for anyone who is coming before or after me. I am a gentleman, but I do have two personalities and that tends to make me over due it from time to time.

You know how they say when you are a Gemini that your other personality tends to come out when you least expect it.

A lot of people now a days tends not to say Ladies First for respect or having manners, but rather use that phrase as an insult or joking around.

Which is why I believe Chivalry is nothing more than a joke today... It's not used in a Gentlemanly manner by most...

[Bowser Ex]

I'm a girl like Okami, but I can tend to be evil at times, GWAHAHAHA!!!! That's how Bowser laughs