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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

    Find another PID that is shiny, with Class 2

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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

    Quote Originally Posted by damio View Post
    Find another PID that is shiny, with Class 2
    But the thing is that I don't know what it is about the PID that tells me it's a shiny Pokemon. I know that I can easily generate one via the "Generate" button, but isn't the problem here that doing such a thing makes the Pokemon non-legit? Basically, I just don't really know what I'm looking for on the list made the "PID/IV" button.
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    But the thing is that I don't know what it is about the PID that tells me it's a shiny Pokemon. I know that I can easily generate one via the "Generate" button, but isn't the problem here that doing such a thing makes the Pokemon non-legit? Basically, I just don't really know what I'm looking for on the list made the "PID/IV" button.
    Well, if you make it appear hatched, it can have any PID you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damio View Post
    Well, if you make it appear hatched, it can have any PID you want.
    Ah. Now that, I did not know. Thanks.

    The new problem I'm having is how legal shiny Pokemon are made for the species that cannot come from an egg. In this case, Latias. See, when I find a Timid Latias on the list, it reverts it back to non-shiny status and I cannot just use "Generate" since it wasn't hatched. It has 37 in it's 46h hidden value since I've made her migrated to Platinum from Emerald.

    So...how would I go about making her legally shiny? Not that I want to for her case. I just am wondering how this is done for Pokemon that cannot legally be the result of a breed (Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, etc).
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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho K View Post
    Ah. Now that, I did not know. Thanks.

    The new problem I'm having is how legal shiny Pokemon are made for the species that cannot come from an egg. In this case, Latias. See, when I find a Timid Latias on the list, it reverts it back to non-shiny status and I cannot just use "Generate" since it wasn't hatched. It has 37 in it's 46h hidden value since I've made her migrated to Platinum from Emerald.

    So...how would I go about making her legally shiny? Not that I want to for her case. I just am wondering how this is done for Pokemon that cannot legally be the result of a breed (Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, etc).
    PIDs for those are TOUGH. Try finding SCV's legal IV generator for that. It's on the main site.

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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

    great thread, very useful as I have now re edited a few mon to include this info

    anyway this can sometimes be awkward to navigate just scrolling down the page so I was wondering if you had this information in an .xls or similar so that I can find the pokemon and ability via a search

    Its not a huge problem but this would speed things up a little

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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

    Ctrl + F
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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

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    OK yeah that works for me...but I would still like (if possible) the database with this info (if it even exists)

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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

    Once I get back to a computer with excel, I can do it...
    Or you can just follow the smogon link and copy and paste the table into excel yourself

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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayc View Post
    Depositing in the PC should reset the ability to the corresponding class as well.
    Depositing in PC only lowers FULL-HACKED Stats. What I mean by FULL-HACKED Stats is like a Magikarp with 300 Attack for examply. Magikarp can't have that much. So if you put it in the PC it's attack will simply go back to the supposed attack for its Level/Nature/IV/EV.
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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Toffeuy View Post
    Depositing in PC only lowers FULL-HACKED Stats. What I mean by FULL-HACKED Stats is like a Magikarp with 300 Attack for examply. Magikarp can't have that much. So if you put it in the PC it's attack will simply go back to the supposed attack for its Level/Nature/IV/EV.
    Let me explain this really quick.

    The data structure of a Pokémon stored in the PC is 136 bytes long. For party Pokémon, the data is 236 bytes long. The last 100 bytes hold info like calculated battle stats, level, status conditions, and other stuff.

    Every time you deposit a Pokémon and then withdraw it, you are basically deleting that information and then recalculating it. That is why stuff like your 300 Attack Magikarp would be fixed. However, the Pokémon's Ability is not stored in that last 100 bytes, and therefore it would not be recalculated from depositing / withdrawing the Pokémon.

    Get it?

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    Get it?
    I think this has already been answered.

    On a side note, the only way to keep hacked stats while depositing over from the party is to edit the ROM itself?

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    Yes, you would need to edit the ROM in such a way that boxed Pokémon retain the 236 byte structure, if it's even possible to do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayc View Post
    I think this has already been answered.
    I was simply explaining the answer, which no one had done yet.

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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

    Thank goodness. No longer do I need to answer this question! Thank you, Wraithy~

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    Re: Pokemon Class ID

    This topic's been out for quite a long time. First time seeing this? :/

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