# Thread: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

1. ## ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

~Preston's Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, 85h, and 86h Values~
Last updated: 10/09/09

~Which game uses these values?~
On R/S/E/FR/LG/CO/XD, none of the hidden values are used. On D/P, only the 85h is used. On Platinum, 44h-47h and 85h are used. On HeartGold and SoulSilver, 44h-47h and 85h-86h are used.

~What are the values for a Pokemon that was migrated from Pal-Park?~
D/P Migration: Set all values to 00
Platinum/HG/SS Migration: Set 46h to 37 (Pal-Park in hexadecimal) and the rest to 00.

~What do the values mean?~
44h and 45h are used for who you recieved the egg from in Platinum/HG/SS.
46h and 47h are used for where the egg was hached at or where the Pokemon was caught at in Platinum/HG/SS.
85h is used to determine how the Pokemon was caught/received in D/P/Pt/HG/SS
86h is used to determine what Pokeball was used to capture the Pokemon in HG/SS

~Do the values change when you trade them to a different game?~
Once a Pokemon's values have been determined by the game, they will never change. This means trading a Pokemon from Diamond to Platinum will keep its regular hex values from Diamond. There are exceptions for Pokemon eggs when they are traded.

Finding the Values:

44h and 45h
44h and 45h will always be 00 if your Pokemon did not come from an egg.
If you obtained your Pokemon as an egg, go to PokeSav and look for the decimal number of where the egg was received at. For example, my Riolu was received from Riley. Riley's decimal value is 2010. (The decimal number is shown in PokeSav right next to Riley.) Now I need to convert 2010 to hexadecimal. If you don't know how to convert, then just use the link at the top.

2010 is 7DA in hex. Egg location and Met location are written from right to left in hex (called little endien).
I'll rewrite 7DA to 07DA to make things easier.

Since we have to read this from right to left, we need to break it in two and then flip the values.

1. 07DA
2. 07 DA
3. DA 07

So the 44h value will be DA and my 45h value will be 07.

46h and 47h
These are found just the same way as the egg locations. Find the decimal number for where your Pokemon was hatched or caught at in PokeSav. My Riolu hatched at Iron Island, and Iron Island is 69 in decimal. So now I just convert 69 into hexadecimal, and I get 45. (0045)

Since we have to read this from right to left, we need to break it in two and then flip the values.

1. 0045
2. 00 45
3. 45 00

My 46h value is 45, and my 47h value is 00.

85h
85h Values are used in Diamond and Pearl too, along with Platinum.

00 - Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey Tree/Shaymin (D/P/Pt)
02 - Tall Grass/Darkrai (D/P/Pt)
04 - Dialga/Palkia (D/P/Pt)
05 - Cave/Hall of Origin/Giratina (D/P/Pt)
07 - Caught in the Water (D/P/Pt)
09 - Caught in Buildings (D/P/Pt)
17 - Distortion World (Giratina) (Pt)
18 - Starter Pokemon/Bebe's Eevee/Fossil Pokemon (Pt)
0A - Great Marsh/Safari Zone (D/P/Pt)
0C - Starter Pokemon/Fossil Pokemon (D/P)

My Riolu was in an egg, so my 85h would be 00.

86h
86h Values are used in HeartGold and SoulSilver only to determine the PokeBall. (Thanks to Wylfred for listing them out!) If there is an *, that means the normal Pokeball slot in Pokesav should be set to a Pokeball. Never set the normal Pokeball slot in Pokesav to any Apricorn balls.

01 = Master Ball
02 = Ultra Ball
03 = Great Ball
04 = Poke Ball
05 = Safari Ball
06 = Net Ball
07 = Dive Ball
08 = Nest Ball
09 = Repeat Ball
0A = Timer Ball
0B = Luxury Ball
0C = Premier Ball
0D = Dusk Ball
0E = Heal Ball
0F = Quick Ball
10 = Cherish Ball
11 = Fast Ball*
12 = Level Ball*
13 = Lure Ball*
14 = Heavy Ball*
15 = Lovely Ball*
16 = Friend Ball*
17 = Moon Ball*
18 = Compé Ball*

My Riolu's Summary:
44h: DA (Egg recieved from Riley)
45h: 07 (Egg recieved from Riley)
46h: 45 (Pokemon was hatched/caught at Iron Island)
47h: 00 (Pokemon was hatched/caught at Iron Island)
85h: 00 (Pokemon was hatched)
86h: 00 (Pokemon was hatched on Pt, not HG/SS)

All the other values you see on Pokesav should be 00. None of them have been used yet.

The Giratina Factor
Giratina, as well as any other Pokemon caught or hatched in a new Platinum, HeartGold, or SoulSilver location, are kind of tricky. This will show you how the game reads these new locations, and how to create them.

First of all, these are the new locations added.

112- Battle Frontier
113- Battle Factory
114- Battle Castle
115- Battle Roulette
116- Battle Stage
117- Distortion World
118- Global Terminal
119- R.A House
120- Match Place
121- Rotom's Room
122- Eterna Galactic HQ
123- Iron Ruins
124- Iceberg Ruins
125- Rock Peak Ruins
2011- Cynthia*

(In Hex)
7E - New Bark Town
7F - Cherrygrove City
80 - Violet City
81 - Azelia Town
82 - Cianwood City
83 - Goldenrod City
84 - Olivine City
85 - Ecruteak City
86 - Mahogany Town
87 - Lake of Rage
88 - Blackthorn City
89 - Silver Cave
8A - Pallet Town
8B - Viridian City
8C - Pewter City
8D - Cerulean City
8E - Lavender Town
8F - Vermillion City
90 - Celadon City
91 - Fuchsia City
92 - Cinnabar Island
93 - Indigo Plateau
94 - Route 1
95 - Route 2
96 - Route 3
97 - Route 4
98 - Route 5
9A - Route 6
9B - Route 7
9C - Route 8
9D - Route 9
9E - Route 10
9F - Route 11
A0 - Route 12
A1 - Route 13
A2 - Route 14
A3 - Route 15
A4 - Route 16
A5 - Route 17
A6 - Route 18
A7 - Route 19
A8 - Route 20
A9 - Route 21
AA - Route 22
AB - Route 23
AC - Route 24
AD - Route 25
AE - Route 26
AF - Route 27
B0 - Route 28
B1 - Route 29
B2 - Route 30
B3 - Route 31
B4 - Route 32
B5 - Route 33
B6 - Route 34
B7 - Route 35
B8 - Route 36
B9 - Route 37
BA - Route 38
BB - Route 39
BC - Route 40
BD - Route 41
BE - Route 42
BF - Route 43
C0 - Route 44
C1 - Route 45
C2 - Route 46
C3 - Route 47
C4 - Route 48
C5 - Diglett Cave
C6 - Mt. Moon
C7 - Cerulean Cave
C8 - Rock Tunnel
C9 - Power Plant
CA - Safari Zone
CB - Seafoam Islands
CC - Sprout Tower
CD - Tin Tower
CE - Burnt Tower
CF - National Park
D0 - Radio Tower
D1 - Ruins of Alph
D2 - Union Cave
D3 - Slowpoke Well
D4 - Lighthouse
D5 - Rocket Hideout (Mahogany Town)
D6 - Ilex Forest
D7 - Goldenrod Underground
D8 - Mt. Mortar
D9 - Ice Path
DA - Whirl Islands (Lugia's Chamber)
DB - Silver Mountain Cave
DC - Dark Cave
DD - Victory Road
DE - Dragon's Den
DF - Tohjo Falls
E0 - Viridian Forest
E1 - Pokéthlon Dome
E2 - S.S. Aqua
E3 - Safari Zone Gate
E4 - Cliff Cave
E5 - Frontier Front
E6 - Path to Tin Tower
E7 - Shinto Ruins
E8 - Hidden Tower
E9 - Pokéwalker
EA - Cliff’s Gate
*2011 is the Hall of Fame for D/P/Pt, but when read for where the egg was from, Pt regards it as Cynthia.

Okay, these are the new locations. But how would Diamond and Pearl read these unknown areas? Nintendo came up with a "good" solution.

Here's how to do it:

The first step is to convert your location to hex. I'm gonna give an example of me hatching a Togepi in Rotom's Room.

Rotom's Room is 121 in decimal, and 79 (0079)in hex.

0079
00 79
79 00

So 46h will be 79 and 47h will be 00.

This is where most people screw up. If you are using a new location in Platinum, you must set the place you met at to 3002 (FarAwayPlace).

When the game notices your Pokemon was caught in a Faraway place, it then looks at your 46h and 47h values. If they are both 00, then the game will simply show FarAwayPlace. If they have values, such as my Togepi here, your game will show the hex value location for where the Pokemon was caught.

This way, if you trade Giratina or any Pokemon from a new location in Platinum, it will show up as FarAwayPlace on Diamond and Pearl. (D/P do not read the 46h/47h values at all.)

Please respond with any questions you have, or any part that was confusing to you! I would love to help!
If you have any Information that isn't up here, please tell me!

Special Thanks to:
damio
Sabresite
SCV
ZMaster
Xeomyr
Wylfred

2. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

Nicely done. Stickied as requested.

3. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

Nice to see you back Preston.

Btw Preston, for 85h Dialga/Palkia (Platinum), its still the same 04. I caught both Dialga and Palkia in Platinum, and their 85h was 04, 46h was 33. Hope this helps.

4. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

Its great to be back! lol
Thanks for the Dialga/Palkia info ZMaster! (I just caught them both today anyway lol)

5. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

Originally Posted by Preston
Its great to be back! lol
Thanks for the Dialga/Palkia info ZMaster! (I just caught them both today anyway lol)
Oh, and Honey Tree is DEFINITELY 00 for 85h. In Platinum, that is.

6. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

hmm but how/where can you check for the decimal numbers of ALL the locations and people in sinnoh?

7. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

Originally Posted by darkfaith
hmm but how/where can you check for the decimal numbers of ALL the locations and people in sinnoh?
In the Pokesav pokemon edit menu, choose the location. There should be a # in the location box. Convert that number to hexidecimal.

8. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

would catching a Gastly in the lost tower be a example of of inside buildings (09)?

9. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

Originally Posted by DeltaRay
would catching a Gastly in the lost tower be a example of of inside buildings (09)?
I would say so.
But I know for a fact that the Old Chateau is an example of inside a building.

Preston, please edit your first post with this:
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10. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

I was curious because when I caught a Gastly it shows up as route 209 but
its actually the lost tower so i wouldnt know if i should of the 02 or 09

11. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

@above me
=_= .. check the decimal value of the place in the pokesav
and convert it into hex ..
u can use window's scientific calculator to do that, it's very simple >_<

12. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

I think my question was misunderstood but I found an answer (looked in old forums).

13. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

Preston, this guide is perfect. Perfect in making me afraid of every single Gamefaqs hacker!

But seriously. This helps me a lot in my hacking. I feel like a superior hacker now. Most Gamefaqs pokesavers will overlook this stuff.

14. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

Nice thing to note, the new Pt hexadecimal values will soon be placed in legality checkers (if not already) and it will be an excellent way to differentiate between a good hacker and a poor hacker.

I would say, all experienced pokesavers should start putting in all these values regardless where the pokemon was said to come from for safety's sake.

15. ## Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

Originally Posted by Illithian
Nice thing to note, the new Pt hexadecimal values will soon be placed in legality checkers (if not already) and it will be an excellent way to differentiate between a good hacker and a poor hacker.
Good. I'm afraid the Hex values will be the most-missed details. I wish the next version of Pokesav or Pokemod would automatically set the Hidden Values to their proper locations, but also have a setting where you can change them.

But having the Legality checker ensure things is good as well.

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