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    Faking Legal Pokemon Transfers From Gen 4 to Gen 5 - PID, Met, OT, Extra byes

    I want to generate a BRED Donphan that seems like it was transferred from a Gen 4 game.
    I want to do this in the Black and White mode of Pokegen.

    In Gen 4, PID was related to IVs and Natures. In Gen 5, Pid is not. Therefore, if I used the PID finder in the Gen 5 mode of Pokegen, to generate a PID for a pokemon that originated from Gen 4, will this PID be illegal? In the Gen 5 PID finder, it seems as if the finder still accounts for IVs and Natures when finding PIDs. This bit is confusing.

    In the "Met" tab, I am assuming it goes:
    Location: Poke Transfer Lab
    Ball: The ball that the transferred Pokemon was supposedly caught in, in Gen 4.
    Level: The level at which the pokemon was transferred to Gen 5 through the lab.
    Date: The date when the Pokemon was transferred
    Encounter: Egg/Pal Park...
    As egg: So what do I put here? Is this only for Pokemon that were gotten as eggs and hatched in Gen 5? If my Pokemon was gotten as an egg and then hatched and then transferred, this is to be left untouched?

    Ot/Misc
    -So for all this trainer information, what do I enter if I don't know a correct combination from the trainer that I supposedly got the transferred Pokemon from?
    -The extra bytes, they were used in Gen 4 for various conditions. When the pokemon was transferred to Gen 5, does this mean I do not have to change any of these values?

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    Re: Faking Legal Pokemon Transfers From Gen 4 to Gen 5 - PID, Met, OT, Extra byes

    Gen 5 doesn't technically use the PID Finder at all. The PID Finder is still meant for 4th Gen. Use that to generate PIDs for Gen 4 Pokemon.

    Location will be Day-Care Couple (G4). Hatch Location will be (Pokétransfer).
    OT/Misc, follow Trash Bytes instructions here: http://projectpokemon.org/forums/sho...n-in-Pok%E9Gen

    Alternatively, make whatever Pokemon it is in Gen 4, then PokeTransfer it using PokeCheck.
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    Re: Faking Legal Pokemon Transfers From Gen 4 to Gen 5 - PID, Met, OT, Extra byes

    I know that in a Gen 5 game the only extra byte that is commonly seen is the 42 one for dw ability to over write the normal ability, but meh, I thought the hidden hex from plat and hgss carried over or something

    hatch location, i dont see a Poketransfer exactly, only poke transfer lab.

    So the PID bit means if I was to generate a pokemon that is hatched or caught or whatever in gen 5, i can just spam some ivs, natures genders and abilities, and then in the end save the pokemon as a pkm file, and pokegen just automatically generates a gen 5 legal pid for me like the instructions say eh?

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    Re: Faking Legal Pokemon Transfers From Gen 4 to Gen 5 - PID, Met, OT, Extra byes

    I'm getting really confused right now I can't tell if I should check the obtained as egg thing and fill out the egg boxes, since in game you cant transfer eggs. I just left the met thing as poke transfer lab. Someone check this out for legality please (I did want to avoid this).

    If I randomly change the trainer id, secret id, gender of ot and ot name to some combination (to make it look like it's not mine), will it be legal?
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    Re: Faking Legal Pokemon Transfers From Gen 4 to Gen 5 - PID, Met, OT, Extra byes

    Your file is corrupt in some way. At least I think so, PokeCheck doesn't like it regardless.

    Anyway, (Pokétransfer) is at the top of the Met list. If the Pokemon is hatched (both 4th and 5th Gen), it shouldn't correspond to any algorithm, so just leave the PID field blank and PokeGen will fill it in for you.
    Yes, tick the As Egg box.

    You are making the Pokemon in PokeGen under Black/White as a Target Game, right?
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    Re: Faking Legal Pokemon Transfers From Gen 4 to Gen 5 - PID, Met, OT, Extra byes

    I will try to upload a newer version of my Donphan.

    I am making this Donphan with BW as the target game.

    Why would my file be corrupted though...all I did was fill in some boxes and then save the pokemon from the tabs as a pkm file...puzzling

    Met
    Game: Black/White
    Location: Day-Care Couple (G4)
    Ball: Poke Ball
    Level:25

    As Egg: Ticked
    Game: Black/White
    Location: (poketransfer)
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    Re: Faking Legal Pokemon Transfers From Gen 4 to Gen 5 - PID, Met, OT, Extra byes

    Everything's fine now except for DPPt trash bytes. They're different from the usual \FFFF\0000\0000\FFFF since they were hatched. This one's out of my knowledge, sorry. Not sure how you can legalize that part.
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    Re: Faking Legal Pokemon Transfers From Gen 4 to Gen 5 - PID, Met, OT, Extra byes

    Do you know anyone that can help me with the trash bytes part in the nick name?

    Or, I could try and get a legal Nickname with trashbytes for a Donphan by doing this, so see if this works:

    -Download the Leaf Green Donphan from pkmdb
    -Set Pokegen to D/P/Pt/HGSS
    -Pretend that the Donphan was taught stealth rocks, EQ, rapid spin and toxic in one of those games
    -Use the PID finder to find a Gen 4 PID that is appropriate for the IVs, nature, and gender that I want.
    -Save the PKM (just in case)
    -Now set Pokegen to Black/White
    -Since the Donphan does not seem like it was gotten as an egg in Leaf Green, All I change now is the met location, which should be (poketranster).
    -I now have a Legal Donphan that has had a long travel through time and knows stealth rocks?

    Oh yea, since Pokegen doesnt have a park ball option, in the Diamond mode of Pokegen, the Donphan, which was caught in Pal Park, was supposedly in an Ultra Ball. What can I do about this?

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