Pokemon Colosseum/XD Legal Checking Tools

[Bond697]

This will run the RNG forward and backward, check a poke's PID/IVs for the proper relationship, or list compatible PIDs for given IVs:

http://pokemon.thundaga.com/research/apps/pokegc_13.exe

http://pokemon.thundaga.com/research...kegc_13_src.7z

e: the source isn't great because it was ripped out of another project, but it works and is fairly readable.

This is the proper version of shaym.in, fully restored from its butchering:

http://hack.thundaga.com/doc.html


e:

or have a look at ToastPlusOne's awesome web app:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18231634/Pok...s/XDLegit.html

It's lightweight and is currently in development to cover as much as possible with regards to Colo/XD.

[Dreamer]

This is actually amazing beyond words,but i thought you guys wanted seeds to be kept secret??Anyway,thanks a lot Bond!!

[ToastPlusOne]

Well, I'll go ahead and throw the JS version on here. It's just a quick check. I planned on adding more, but the variable typing had a different opinion.

Anyway, here it is.

[OmegaDonut]

This is the proper version of shaym.in, fully restored from its butchering:

http://hack.thundaga.com/doc.html

This tool is reporting the wrong seeds. It's posting the RNG call that comes after the IVs\PID are generated, not the one just before.

[Bond697]

not exactly; it's just reporting the first pid seed. i just checked. all i did was reverse what kaphotics did to it, anyway. apparently he didn't bother changing that part from the original shaym.in. it lists the first pid seed, as though it was creating a gen 3/4 poke. that's easy enough to change, though.

not that it really matters, i suppose. the other apps are more useful anyway.

[Kaphotics]

Here was the original modification I used, in which that legal check was then further modified off of.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12206225/xdpid.html
(last modified 9/23/2011 @ 7pm PST)

This was before I figured out how the ability was determined, might just add that in tonight (ref: iv2/2147483648). The butchering was to prevent a small time scriptkiddie from reversing whatever changes I did to get back to the original (as in, to get a PID/IV generator to cheat). Now that these other generation tools are out, I don't care anymore. We have a list of who actually can RNG on the GC in addition to all results; it's incredibly short. We can see what Pokemon were actually RNG'd, instead of created.

Pokecheck recently got the (Common GC) method implemented, so all previously existing uploads can be verified that way.

There's still another layer of legality (akin to sabresite's sync (j/k) check) which reduces the probability of a spread occurring by a factor of ~(1/25). I know how to implement a rough check and will do it tonight as well. The limiting nature lock depends on the trainer you are battling.

ref(pid2^-7rev / 65536 _ for1/65536 .. mod 25; lookup display || pid2^-14rev/65536 _ for1/65536 .. mod 25; lookup display)
covers 1&2 nongap nature check

[Bond697]

Here was the original modification I used, in which that legal check was then further modified off of.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12206225/xdpid.html
(last modified 9/23/2011 @ 7pm PST)

this is just you straight out lying to cover your ass. as of less than 48 hours ago, it looked like this:

http://img.thundaga.com/c.png

you ripped everything off. not the first time.

This was before I figured out how the ability was determined, might just add that in tonight (ref: iv2/2147483648). The butchering was to prevent a small time scriptkiddie from reversing whatever changes I did to get back to the original (as in, to get a PID/IV generator to cheat). Now that these other generation tools are out, I don't care anymore. We have a list of who actually can RNG on the GC in addition to all results; it's incredibly short. We can see what Pokemon were actually RNG'd, instead of created.

such a lame excuse and that list of people is worthless.

i'm sure this was also to stop scriptkiddies, right?

// This calculator is a modified version of Alex Smith's Method 1/J/K PIDIV calculator. It may only be used by Kaphotics' Dropbox.
// http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12206225/RNG/xdc-legal.html
// If this is uploaded to another site, then you are an asshole and a good for nothing. I will hunt you down.

there's your original credit to the author. buried in the middle of the source.

There's still another layer of legality (akin to sabresite's sync (j/k) check) which reduces the probability of a spread occurring by a factor of ~(1/25). I know how to implement this and will do it tonight as well.

ref(pid2^-7rev / 65536 _ for1/65536 .. mod 25; lookup display || pid2^-14rev/65536 _ for1/65536 .. mod 25; lookup display)
covers 1&2 nongap nature check

akin? no, it's the same thing as the one in gen 3, pretty much. it looks for a specific nature.

[Kaphotics]

Spoiler

As you can see, the (previously private) full tool was in a different directory to prevent people from fusking it out.

I rigged up a PID/IV generator heavily based on Method 1/J/K IV/Stat/Legality Checker that will allow me to do GC PID's (XD/Colo/GC Events). No plans on sharing with the public.

it's 99% someone elses, all I did was mod it. I cut off the bottom with the credits:
99.9999% based off of Alex Smith's Method 1/J/K PIDIV calculator. I essentially took the original source and edited the LCRNG and call structure to output GameCube PID/IVs. -- Kaphotics

It's javascript!

I'm at togepi in outskirt sand, but with a midterm tomorrow. So I'm not even close to any other decent mons.

src

I never ended up doing those Duskull. Some may see that as attention whoring, but it was hype building to get more people interested. It worked, and since there are more people interested there's more R&D.

nice try

Except that specific nature is by no means directly related the the shadow Pokemon's nature, and is different between games and trainers based on the locked nature.

[Bond697]

that proves literally nothing. on 9/23, it was this:

http://img.thundaga.com/c.png


and didn't change from that until you got called on it. you deleted it on 9/28, which is the day you also deleted your thread.

nice try.

e: and what you're saying now is partially nonsensical and makes no difference.

oh, and wow, i missed that "source" pic. here's another one from the research thread:

http://img.thundaga.com/page32.png

there's what you posted in the research thread. way to go.

[Kaphotics]

This isn't a thread to be arguing in.

Tools were modified, and I was toying with another version to reduce the information given out. During the 'obfuscation' I deleted a massive chunk of the flavor text (because that wouldn't convert). I hastily put it out, because people were pestering me on multiple forums. That source tag was mainly just to identify if anyone else re-uploaded it to their own site, cuz why the hell not lol.

I don't see you crediting OmegaDonut or myself in your tools, which is ironic. If you would kindly fuck off, it's Pokemon, nobody makes money from this and the work everyone does is for free. Don't be a drama queen.

[Bond697]

which is why you started it, right? you didn't change a damn thing for 6 days until you got called out for it and then the page magically disappeared right after. could you be more full of shit?

and no, no credit. i could make quite a list of everything you've managed to rip off and claim as your own. starting from last november.

it's amazing that you're trying to insinuate that i'm trying to start something here when all i'm doing is calling you out for bullshit you've been pulling for a year. that's right it's free and shaym.in took a lot of work and all you did is rip it off and misrepresent it as yours.

[Kaphotics]

straight douchebaggin^

cya later Pokemon Fans. I'm done with Pokemon.

[Bond697]

this is like your 7th "retirement". the first 6 didn't net you enough attention, so you're trying again i see. i give it 48 hours.

e:

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called it. less than 24 hours this time.

[Codr]

I don't see you crediting OmegaDonut or myself in your tools, which is ironic.

Bond isn't copying completed source code and presenting it as if he created it.

If you would kindly fuck off, it's Pokemon, nobody makes money from this and the work everyone does is for free. Don't be a drama queen.

So because it's free, there has to be no respect for someone's time and effort? Also, the argument "it's free, it's ok" is pretty easy to interpret as expressing guilt.

[Tombstoner]

This drama is stupid seriously. But, I will say that, from my perspective, Kaph made it clear shaym.in wasn't his, both in the link he gave me and in his posts regarding it. I would dig up quotes but I don't think I need bother.
But enough on the source code as I'm uninvolved. The "list" is an excellent idea in my opinion, and Bond, I don't see why you would doubt its effectiveness. As a member on the list myself, one which does not seem to represent an "elite" group but rather those who know slight more about RNG in general, I fully support this measure to moderate hacking. Obviously it would only work on Smogon because no other place is strict enough.