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For those who have missed my modified Gym Leaders proposal, click here. This is a continuation of the proposal, only for rematches. This time, ANY suggestions are welcome, even with Sinnoh/Hoenn Pokemon. So let her rip! :)

Johto Gym Leaders

Falkner:

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Noctowl level 64

- Roost

- Night Shade

- Hypnosis

- Reflect

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Dodrio level 65

- Drill Peck

- Pursuit

- Knock Off

- Torment

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Swellow level 65

- Quick Attack

- Aerial Ace

- Endeavor

- U-turn

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Staraptor level 65

- Quick Attack

- Endeavor

- Brave Bird

- Close Combat

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Pidgeot level 66@Sitrus Berry

- Roost

- Featherdance

- Air Slash

- Heat Wave

Bugsy:

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Shuckle level 64

- Sandstorm

- Rest

- Bug Bite

- Toxic

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Pinsir level 65

- X-Scissor

- Superpower

- Stone Edge

- Swords Dance

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Yanmega level 65

- Air Slash

- Bug Buzz

- Hypnosis

- Protect

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Scizor level 66@Sitrus Berry

Ability: Technician

- Bullet Punch

- Swords Dance

- X-Scissor

- Pursuit

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Heracross level 65

Ability: Guts

- Swords Dance

- Megahorn

- Close Combat

- Earthquake

Whitney:

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Clefable level 64

Ability: Magic Guard

- Seismic Toss

- Softboiled

- Cosmic Power

- Thunderbolt

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Kangaskhan level 65

- Sucker Punch

- Outrage

- Shadow Claw

- Attract

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Bibarel level 65

- Super Fang

- Thunder Wave

- Waterfall

- Curse

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Tauros level 65

- Zen Headbutt

- Pursuit

- Earthquake

- Giga Impact

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Miltank level 66@Sitrus Berry

- Milk Drink

- Earthquake

- Body Slam

- Zen Headbutt

Morty:

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Dusknoir level 68

- Gravity

- Pain Split

- Earthquake

- Confuse Ray

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Banette level 67

- Will-o-Wisp

- Screech

- Shadow Claw

- Torment

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Mismagius level 68

- Calm Mind

- Shadow Ball

- Thunderbolt

- Pain Split

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Spiritomb level 67 <--- still questioning if I should put this guy in or not

- Confuse Ray

- Hypnosis

- Dream Eater

- Shadow Ball

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Gengar level 68@Sitrus Berry

- Hypnosis

- Destiny Bond

- Shadow Ball

- Focus Blast

Chuck:

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Hariyama level 68

- Force Palm

- Smellingsalt

- Belly Drum

- Earthquake

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Primeape level 67

- Swagger

- Thrash

- Fire Punch

- Close Combat

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Medicham level 68

- Fire Punch

- Thunderpunch

- Psycho Cut

- Ice Punch

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Toxicroak level 67

Ability: Dry Skin

- Nasty Plot

- Sludge Bomb

- Rain Dance

- Vacuum Wave

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Poliwrath level 68@Sitrus Berry

Ability: Water Absorb

- Hypnosis

- Waterfall

- Mind Reader

- Dynamicpunch

Jasmine:

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Skarmory level 68

- Spikes

- Whirlwind

- Roost

- Steel Wing

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Magnezone level 67

Ability: Magnet Pull

- Rain Dance

- Flash Cannon

- Magnet Rise

- Thunder

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Steelix level 68

- Earthquake

- Gyro Ball

- Stealth Rocks

- Toxic

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Probopass level 67

Ability: Magnet Pull

- Earth Power

- Magnet Rise

- Lock-On

- Zap Cannon

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Bronzong level 68@Sitrus Berry

- Hypnosis

- Gyro Ball

- Earthquake

- Zen Headbutt

Pryce:

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Walrein level 69

- Crunch

- Body Slam

- Waterfall

- Ice Fang

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Cloyster level 69

- Spikes

- Ice Shard

- Protect

- Poison Jab

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Dewgong level 69

- Icy Wind

- Signal Beam

- Surf

- Aqua Ring

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Jynx level 69

- Perish Song

- Ice Beam

- Lovely Kiss

- Mean Look

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Mamoswine level 70@Sitrus Berry

- Earthquake

- Ice Shard

- Stone Edge

- Avalanche

Clair:

Note: To prevent Clair from overshadowing her cousin, her dragons will be more marine based while Lance's will be all the strong guys. I don't know what to do with this one... :-/

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Gyarados level 69

- Hyper Beam

- Aqua Tail

- Rain Dance

- Thunder

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Altaria level 69

- Dragon Dance

- Earthquake

- Dragon Claw

- Aerial Ace

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Feraligatr level 69

- Dragon Dance

- Flail

- Waterfall

- Rain Dance

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Dragonite level 69

- Thunder Wave

- Dragon Rush

- Safeguard

- Aqua Tail

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Kingdra level 70@Sitrus Berry

- Surf

- Waterfall

- Outrage

- Dragon Dance

Elite Four

Wil:

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Xatu level 70

- Confuse Ray

- Psychic

- Silver Wind

- Roost

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Slowking level 71

- Nasty Plot

- Trick Room

- Surf

- Flamethrower

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Jynx level 71

- Lovely Kiss

- Ice Beam

- Psychic

- Fake Tears

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Exeggutor level 71

- Sleep Powder

- Sunny Day

- Solarbeam

- Psychic

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Claydol level 72@Sitrus Berry

- Toxic

- Earth Power

- Shadow Ball

- Calm Mind

Koga:

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Venomoth level 73

Ability: Tinted Lens

- Sleep Powder

- Signal Beam

- Psychic

- Double Team

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Muk level 74

- Minimize

- Curse

- Shadow Sneak

- Ice Punch

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Drapion level 74

- Fire Fang

- Ice Fang

- Thunder Fang

- Swords Dance

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Weezing level 74

- Haze

- Thunderbolt

- Flamethrower

- Sludge Bomb

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Crobat level 75

- Confuse Ray

- Roost

- X-Scissor

- Zen Headbutt

Bruno:

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Hitmontop level 76

- Fake Out

- Close Combat

- Endeavor

- Quick Attack

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Hitmonlee level 76

- Blaze Kick

- Meditate

- Endure

- Reversal

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Hitmonchan level 76

Ability: Iron Fist

- Agility

- Thunderpunch

- Ice Punch

- Close Combat

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Blaziken level 77

- Agility

- Overheat

- Superpower

- Thunderpunch

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Machamp level 78@Sitrus Berry

Ability: No Guard

- Dynamicpunch

- Stone Edge

- Rest

- Sleep Talk

Karen:

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Umbreon level 78

- Confuse Ray

- Sand Attack

- Payback

- Yawn

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Honchkrow level 79

- Superpower

- Heat Wave

- Drill Peck

- Night Slash

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Weavile level 79

- Swords Dance

- Ice Shard

- Brick Break

- Aerial Ace

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Gengar level 79

- Destiny Bond

- Confuse Ray

- Spite

- Shadow Ball

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Houndoom level 80@Sitrus Berry

- Dark Pulse

- Nasty Plot

- Flamethrower

- Will-o-Wisp

The Champion Lance (why are you champion?!!):

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Gyarados level 81

- Taunt

- Dragon Dance

- Stone Edge

- Waterfall

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Aerodactyl level 82

- Giga Impact

- Crunch

- Earthquake

- Rock Slide

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Charizard level 82

- Sunny Day

- Solarbeam

- Flamethrower

- Hyper Beam

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Salamence level 83

- Dragon Dance

- Earthquake

- Dragon Claw

- Hydro Pump

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Tyranitar level 84

- Thunderbolt

- Ice Beam

- Stone Edge

- Crunch

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Dragonite level 85@Sitrus Berry

- Dragon Dance

- Outrage

- Fire Blast

- Earthquake

Kanto Gym Leaders

Lt. Surge

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Ampharos level 64

- Light Screen

- Power Gem

- Signal beam

- Thunderbolt

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Electrode level 65

- Magnet Rise

- Rain Dance

- Thunder

- Explosion

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Manectric level 65

- Charge Beam

- Overheat

- Crunch

- Signal Beam

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Electivire level 65

- Ice Punch

- Thunderpunch

- Fire Punch

- Earthquake

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Raichu level 66@Sitrus Berry

- Sing

- Nasty Plot

- Grass Knot

- Thunderbolt

Sabrina

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Mr. Mime level 64

- Light Screen

- Reflect

- Psychic

- Thunderbolt

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Espeon level 65

- Baton Pass

- Psychic

- Calm Mind

- Shadow Ball

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Solrock level 65

- Rock Slide

- Earthquake

- Fire Spin

- Psychic

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Lunatone level 65

- Calm Mind

- Hypnosis

- Psychic

- Ice Beam

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Alakazam level 66@Sitrus Berry

- Focus Blast

- Psychic

- Future Sight

- Reflect

Erika

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Jumpluff level 70

- Sleep Powder

- Sunny Day

- Leech Seed

- U-Turn

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Breloom level 70

- Spore

- Focus Punch

- Thunderpunch

- Seed Bomb

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Tangrowth level 70

- Sleep Powder

- Ancientpower

- Grass Knot

- Earthquake

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Victreebel level 70

- Sleep Powder

- Swords Dance

- Sucker Punch

- Leaf Blade

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Bellossom level 70@Sitrus Berry

- Stun Spore

- Moonlight

- Solarbeam

- Sunny Day

Janine

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Ariados level 64

- Spider Web

- Double Team

- Baton Pass

- Bug Bite

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Seviper level 65

- Poison Fang

- Night Slash

- Glare

- Swagger

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Crobat level 65

- Confuse Ray

- Roost

- Brave Bird

- U-Turn

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Roserade level 65

- Sunny Day

- Weather Ball

- Sleep Powder

- Sludge Bomb

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Venomoth level 66@Sitrus Berry

- Sleep Powder

- Supersonic

- Psychic

- Bug Buzz

Misty

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Golduck level 68

- Screech

- Cross Chop

- Zen Headbutt

- Aqua Jet

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Lumineon level 67 <--- LOL

- Silver Wind

- Surf

- Rain Dance

- Attract

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Mantine level 68

- Confuse Ray

- Aqua Ring

- Signal Beam

- Hydro Pump

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Starmie level 68@Sitrus Berry

- Recover

- Surf

- Thunderbolt

- Psychic

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Lapras level 67

- Dragon Dance

- Ice Shard

- Aqua Tail

- Confuse Ray

Brock

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Aggron level 68

- Metal Burst

- Double Edge

- Iron Head

- Dragon Claw

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Rhyperior level 67

- Rock Polish

- Earthquake

- Stone Edge

- Megahorn

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Omastar level 68

- Rain Dance

- Surf

- Ancientpower

- Ice Beam

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Kabutops level 67

- Rain Dance

- Aqua Jet

- Brick Break

- Rock Slide

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Steelix level 68@Sitrus Berry

- Earthquake

- Curse

- Gyro Ball

- Stealth Rock

Blaine

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Camerupt level 70

- Earth Power

- Yawn

- Flamethrower

- Stealth Rock

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Rapidash level 70

- Megahorn

- Double Kick

- Flare Blitz

- Overheat

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Magmortar level 70

- Thunderbolt

- Fire Blast

- Sunny Day

- Solarbeam

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Arcanine level 70@Sitrus Berry

- Extremespeed

- Flare Blitz

- Crunch

- Overheat

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Ninetales level 70

- Hypnosis

- Nasty Plot

- Energy Ball

- Flamethrower

Green (Blue in U.S.)

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Heracross level 89

- Megahorn

- Swords Dance

- Close Combat

- Stone Edge

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Alakazam level 89

- Calm Mind

- Signal Beam

- Psychic

- Reflect

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Tyranitar level 89

- Curse

- Stone Edge

- Crunch

- Aqua Tail

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Jolteon level 93@Sitrus Berry

- Agility

- Baton Pass

- Thunderbolt

- Signal Beam

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Flareon level 93@Sitrus Berry

- Fire Blast

- Superpower

- Quick Attack

- Shadow Ball

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Vaporeon level 93@Sitrus Berry

- Surf

- Ice Beam

- Acid Armor

- Baton Pass

Other Trainers

Red

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Pikachu level 97@Sitrus Berry

- Volt Tackle

- Charm

- Quick Attack

- Thunderbolt

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Espeon level 89

- Morning Sun

- Psychic

- Signal Beam

- Reflect

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Snorlax level 89

- Body Slam

- Earthquake

- Curse

- Rest

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Venusaur level 93

- Synthesis

- Sleep Powder

- Sludge Bomb

- Frenzy Plant

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Charizard level 93

- Blast Burn

- Sunny Day

- Solarbeam

- Dragon Pulse

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Blastoise level 93

- Fake Out

- Focus Blast

- Hydro Cannon

- Blizzard

Double Battle: Red and Green/Blue (takes place before rematch with Blue or Red)

Red

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Venusaur level 90@Sitrus Berry

- Toxic

- Sunny Day

- Synthesis

- Solarbeam

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Charizard level 90@Sitrus Berry

- Thunderpunch

- Fire Blast

- Swords Dance

- Dragon Pulse

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Blastoise level 90@Sitrus Berry

- Fake Out

- Hydro Pump

- Blizzard

- Rain Dance

Green/Blue

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Exeggutor level 90@Sitrus Berry

- Sleep Powder

- Leech Seed

- Reflect

- Psychic

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Arcanine level 90@Sitrus Berry

- Extremespeed

- Flare Blitz

- Overheat

- Crunch

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Gyarados level 90@Sitrus Berry

- Taunt

- Dragon Dance

- Stone Edge

- Waterfall

Silver (your rival fights alongside you)

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Weavile level 80

- Ice Punch

- Night Slash

- Brick Break

- Aerial Ace

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Magnezone level 80

- Flash Cannon

- Magnet Rise

- Thunderbolt

- Iron Defense

One of the following starters

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Meganium level 88@Sitrus Berry

- Light Screen

- Synthesis

- Energy Ball

- Ancientpower

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Typhlosion level 88@Sitrus Berry

- Eruption

- Quick Attack

- Focus Blast

- Thunderpunch

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Feraligatr level 88@Sitrus Berry

- Dragon Dance

- Ice Punch

- Rock Slide

- Waterfall

Coming Soon:

- Kanto Leaders

- E4

- Bonus trainers?

Misc:

Klaatu's Lineup

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Whats wrong with the original teams? They ruled!

Erm... read again Floot. REMATCHES. As in... REMATCHES. You know, when you fight a trainer again after you fought the trainer before. Wait, you don't know what fighting means? Okay, you know a Pokemon Battle... where you, er... never mind. Figure out for yourself :P

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I'm sorry. I believe the rosters in your other thread were good, but ruined the images of nostalgia in the team. Maybe try editing IV's and EV's and Movesets, but Pokémon altogether, its quite extreme isn't it?

The funny thing is, I have no idea if EVs are actually implemented in a in-game trainer. The other thread wasn't too bad actually; I kept their signature Pokemon in-tact... I only modified their levels so that we don't get another LOLZ0R level 9 Pidgeotto and added a FEW Pokemon to make the teams more "versatile".

The rematch thing here means anything goes... even Sinnoh/Hoenn :P

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They all seem just fine to me. It would be fun to fight them again :D

The only thing that I notice is the small level difference between them. Falkner-whitney are the same. Morty-Jasmine are the same and Pryce-Clair are the same. Though they are rematches a little more of a level difference might be interesting. (Not exactly sure if a big level difference would be good for the rematches >_<)

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Rematches tend to use the person's best Pokemon, but yeah, please do tell me. The reason why I put Salamence is because it can learn Hydro Pump, and Clair's dragon Pokemon tend to be more aquatic based. I'm not so sure though... could you give me a possible moveset for a candidate?

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Since when do Gym Leaders use moves that can only be gotten on a Pokemon by breeding? I'm looking at a Clefable with Softboiled on that list.

Almost all trainers in the game, including Gym Leaders, leave their Pokemon practically untouched on the moves list. If the Pokemon don't learn it via levelling up (or via a Gym Leader's signature TM), that Pokemon won't have it when you fight them. It's a big jump from that to them being master breeders, isn't it?

Oh, and you're right. Until the variable level battles (things like the Orre Colleseum in xD), trainers don't get EVs on Pokemon.

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Since when do Gym Leaders use moves that can only be gotten on a Pokemon by breeding? I'm looking at a Clefable with Softboiled on that list.

Almost all trainers in the game, including Gym Leaders, leave their Pokemon practically untouched on the moves list. If the Pokemon don't learn it via levelling up (or via a Gym Leader's signature TM), that Pokemon won't have it when you fight them.

claires original dragos knew flamethrower,ice beam,thunderbolt to name a few

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Since when do Gym Leaders use moves that can only be gotten on a Pokemon by breeding? I'm looking at a Clefable with Softboiled on that list.

Almost all trainers in the game, including Gym Leaders, leave their Pokemon practically untouched on the moves list. If the Pokemon don't learn it via levelling up (or via a Gym Leader's signature TM), that Pokemon won't have it when you fight them.

Some of them do actually. Remember Misty's Golduck with Psychic in Gen II? You couldn't get Psychic except via breeding because Golduck couldn't learn Psychic. But then again, Lance's Pokemon had hacked moves back then too. Rock Sliding Aerodactyl? Barrier Dragonite?

Anyways if you think Clefable with Softboiled or Salamence with Hydro Pump is odd, go ahead and suggest something else then.

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I remembered Lance's hacked Pokemon, but I had mostly forgotten the rest. It's been too long since I've played the older gen games.

But, anyway, I'd stick with TM moves only, for the rematches, and leave Egg Moves out of it.

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What exactly do you have in mind? I don't know... Softboiled Clefable looks fun to fight with! Vacuum Wave Toxicroak, Pain Split Dusknoir... what else do we have? I don't know. I feel like it limits some Pokemon if they don't have hereditary moves, but if you have better suggestions, by all means please do say :)

Moved Altaria from Falkner's roster to Clair's roster and removed Salamence. Staraptor has been added to Falkner's roster.

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I'd give Falkner at least one Pokemon that's not normal/flying, after all it's not the normal/flying gym =P

GF screwd that part with the Johto gym types up IMO.

They had 17 types, 8 used by Kanto gyms. So one of the left 9 being flying, which no Pokemon has/will ever have as it's primary type, the obvious, logical and perfect decision would have been to include a Dark type gym and leave out flying but no.... xD

I considered that, they will probably keep (at least 1 of each species) Pokemon from the lines they use the first time.

Falkner

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Bugsy

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Whitney

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Morty

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Chuck

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Jasmine

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Pryce

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Clair

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Will

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Koga

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Bruno

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Karen

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Lance

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Lt. Surge

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Sabrina

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Erika

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Janine

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Misty

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Brock

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Blue He's got only Pokemon already used by someone else, so that's why I'd do the following with him:

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Blaine

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Blue looks like Giovanni's line o_O

I'm giving Blue something unique :D

I gave everyone a theme for a reason. Bugsy gets strong Bugs... Whitney gets Pokemon from the plains, and I kept Morty's Gengar last because it is his signature Pokemon.

And about your Bugsy... there's TOO many Level 10 Bugs in there! :eek:

I want it to be a challenge :D

You're right about Falkner... I need something more original :P

Someone help me on Chuck :(

I gave Jasmine Sinnoh Pokes because she was in Sinnoh at D/P/P.

Your ideas are cool though, but you should post their movesets and whatnot :P

I'll make Kanto and E4 soon. :)

I just don't want their lineups to be so similar to their Sinnoh counterparts.

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I like Klaatu's teams. Especially Togekiss in Falkner's team.

I thought about Togekiss in Falkner's... and I put Staraptor mostly for a filler because I moved Altaria down to Clair. I just had this idea for a themed team really... even with typing and whatnot. :-/

Any ideas to replace Staraptor or Swellow with? Those two are quite exchangeable @_@

I need better ideas for Chuck and Pryce, but Weavile doesn't seem to fit Pryce, although Glalie sure does :)

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I especially like my Lance team and how the colours go from first to last <3

Also I was trying to have them have max 2 non Kanto/Johto Pokemon in (and succeeded at most of em).

So most of them have 2K/1J/1H/1S<--most times an evo

Yeah I thought about Bugsy's team being to crap. The Butterfree and Beedrill are in because of his Metapod and Kakuna.

Scizor is obvious for various reasons.

I wanted to give Heracross to Chuck so much, so he would get at least 1 of the 2 Johto Fighting type Pokemon (the other being Hitmontop @ Bruno)

Shuckle seems fine in there.

Then I put Yanmega in also, but took it out before posting, because I for some reason didn't want to make his team half same like Aarons(?) (Sinnoh E4 bug) and replaced it with... the other Johto Bug left. Altough Ledian is weak, I saw his counterpart used by Koga... LOL

Now I'm thinking... maybe a Shedinja? O.o

EDIT: I gave him Yanmega instead of Ledian now. Those Kanto bugs still bother me, but I'll leave them cause of his original team.

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I especially like my Lance team and how the colours go from first to last <3

Yeah I thought about Bugsy's team being to crap. The Butterfree and Beedrill are in because of his Metapod and Kakuna.

Scizor is obvious for various reasons.

I wanted to give Heracross to Chuck so much, so he would get at least 1 of the 2 Johto Fighting type Pokemon (the other being Hitmontop @ Bruno)

Shuckle seems fine in there.

Then I put Yanmega in also, but took it out before posting, because I for some reason didn't want to make his team half same like Aarons(?) (Sinnoh E4 bug) and replaced it with... the other Johto Bug left. Altough Ledian is weak, I saw his counterpart used by Koga... LOL

Now I'm thinking... maybe a Shedinja? O.o

I have a slightly different Lance team in mind, shall I post it? :)

And yeah, Bugsy shouldn't be a Aaron clone. Ledian/Ariados combo took down Cynthia for me (Baton Pass :P)

Try a Baton Pass Ledian or something. Maybe even a pseudopasser with the screens and everything, like Lucian's Mr. Mime.

Surge looks like a Volkner clone :-/

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