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    Post Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    randomspot555 edit: Because it apparently hasn't been clear enough, this thread is strictly for reporting ERRORS in PokeCheck's Legality Analyses. Anything beyond that is off-topic and may get you an an infraction.
    evandixon edit: Because this thread is for reporting errors, this is also NOT the thread to ask why your Pokémon aren't legal. Be sure to search for legality guides before asking somewhere besides this thread.

    Until the release of an update to Sabresite's legal.exe, I have added a basic legality checker for generation 5 to Pokécheck.
    This tool is meant to detect edited or cloned pokémon. In accordance with ProjectPokemon's policy on hacking, you are reminded that edited Pokémon are not allowed on Black & White Random Wifi matchup and in all nintendo or affiliated events. As such, any request to make a Pokémon legal for Wifi or any official or non official tournament will be ignored and can get you banned by the moderation team.

    To try it you can either deposit the pokémon to test on the Pokécheck GTS or have an account and import the .pkm file.
    For a legit pokémon you should expect somthing similar to this:

    Spoiler


    Please report any pokémon either incorrectly reported as hacked or new ideas to detect currently undetected hacks.
    Always include a link to the incriminated pokémon if you can. You don't have to make it public.
    Last edited by evandixon; Jun 9th, 2013 at 10:15 PM. Reason: Clarified policy on edited pokémon
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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    yes

    Your filter for searching has nature mispelled: Nautre

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    Have fun maintaining an annoying list of data just to allow utter idiots to get Pokemon working online.

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    Quote Originally Posted by kaphotics View Post
    Your filter for searching has nature mispelled: Nautre
    Fix'd

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    Awesome, thanks for this. I've been using your site a lot already, have several .pkm files I've loaded up there.

    One question though, should the legality analysis have green text like in your picture? The ones I've already uploaded don't have green text but seems to all be valid for the most part...

    here take a look at one...
    http://pokecheck.kraftpaper.org/?p=detail&uid=62426

    also it thinks Dream Ball is hacked, even though this appears to be a valid DW pokemon

    and this pokemon does not need trash bytes in the nickname but returns this statement "Name contains no trash bytes (more tests missing)."


    some other things I noticed with this pokemon
    http://pokecheck.kraftpaper.org/?p=detail&uid=71016

    Light Ball is an illegal item for BW as it can not be acquired this gen yet.

    Also it shows Nasty Plot as "Hacked / Event only (417)" for Pikachu... my understanding is it is a normal level up move from Pichu? please correct me if I'm wrong.


    under certain conditions pokemon do not need a terminator sequence for their OT name - http://projectpokemon.org/forums/sho...scape-Sequence

    for this pokemon i removed the terminator sequence, saved it with only the trainer name - http://pokecheck.kraftpaper.org/?p=detail&uid=71039
    but it returns this for OT
    JeanY\xFFFF\x0000\x0000
    All characters in name are valid.
    Name has proper terminators.

    As a hatched pokemon I expected it to say the following:
    JeanY
    All characters in name are valid.
    Name has proper sequence.

    OR if the pokemon was captured instead of hatched it should say:
    JeanY
    All characters in name are valid.
    Invalid terminator sequence.


    This pokemon is level 50 but does not evolve till level 64, doesn't seem to be detected - http://pokecheck.kraftpaper.org/?p=detail&uid=71068
    Also has a level up move which can't be learned till level 79 but returns this error "Hacked / Event only (200)"
    Last edited by cH053n; May 8th, 2011 at 06:02 AM.

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    Is Dream World Blaziken released in English yet?

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    Quote Originally Posted by PsytroniX View Post
    Is Dream World Blaziken released in English yet?
    Good point, no it is not.

    This is not detected on Nintendo WFC random wifi check though, as this pokemon can play online...


    ahh... just noticed you cant see the legality analysis of other peoples pokemon.

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    They have to be marked as public (manage -> allow download of PKM) for you to have the legality toggle box.

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    Quote Originally Posted by kaphotics View Post
    They have to be marked as public (manage -> allow download of PKM) for you to have the legality toggle box.
    ahh i see now, thanks.

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    Thank you for your comments, cH053n. Your post on OT escape sequence is interesting, I found out the same results as you for the most part and if you want to complete your table, I have found out that:
    - Fateful encounter is basically the same case as Event (except for Shaymin in Pt) and terminator for those is all \FFFF
    - NPC Pokémon Gift like those first badge monkeys is the same as starters and NPC trade, with simple escape sequence.

    ALL name fields have AT LEAST one terminator \FFFF to mark the end of the name; I call this simple terminator. Some others, most importantly wild pokémon, have double terminator, i.e. \FFFF at the end of the name AND at the end of the field. Even if you remove what you call the "terminator sequence", you will still have the mandatory first terminator. It doesn't appear in PokeGen but that's because PokeGen is smart and will always include it (otherwise it can corrupt your save file). Pokécheck should handle most cases correctly but I think it is missing roaming and maybe some NPC cases.

    There is no check for level and items, I'll add it or part of it (like Codr said I don't really want to keep a database of stuff updated). Also I don't have a table of released dream world pokémon and genders, if you know where to find one I should add a dream world legality check. Currently all gen5 dream world are flagged as hacked.

    As for your Pikachu it was a bug that caused level up moves exclusive to the preevo to not be recognized properly. The check is not very smart and all invalid moves are listed as Hacked, even level up moves from higher levels.
    Pokécheck - A GTS to let you deposit and receive pokemon, view their stats, import and export to .pkm and more - gen 4 and 5 supported
    Pokémon Black/White animated sprites, now with back sprites, alternate/female forms and all shiny versions thereof.

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    Quote Originally Posted by cH053n View Post
    Also it shows Nasty Plot as "Hacked / Event only (417)" for Pikachu... my understanding is it is a normal level up move from Pichu? please correct me if I'm wrong.
    I can see "Valid (level up)" for Nasty Plot.

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Pingouin7 View Post
    I can see "Valid (level up)" for Nasty Plot.
    I just fixed this.

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    @xfr

    Thanks for the additional info about the terminator sequence, hope you don't mind if I quote you in my thread.


    For DW pokemon check out these pages

    All DW normally found in the Island of Dreams theoretically can be female or male
    http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/dreamworldareas.shtml

    Any event exclusive pokemon are supposedly male only
    http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/dr...dpokemon.shtml

    Here is a Japanese wiki that further confirms what DW pokemon are released and their gender
    http://www14.atwiki.jp/bwpokekousatsu/pages/521.html

    Smogon also has a thread but it appears to be incomplete as far as gender is concerned... but could be used to compare to the Japanese wiki.
    http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80928


    To further add about there being no level check
    This pokemon can only be encountered at min lv 25 and max lv 31
    http://pokecheck.kraftpaper.org/?p=detail&uid=71975
    This is not shown as invalid under encounter

    So if there was a level check it would need two separate checks. One for its level of its current form and one for encountered at level.

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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    Thanks. Also I checked the roamers and they do have a simple terminator. They should be recognized properly now. Landorus is stationary hence has a double terminator in OT.
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    Re: Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

    Found a couple more inconsistencies on the legality analysis.

    http://pokecheck.kraftpaper.org/?p=detail&uid=72816
    - This is Shaymin Sky form, no matter what PID combination I used the Ability shows as "Hacked".
    - Also it knows a move that only Sky form can learn, Air Slash, but it shows as "Hacked / Event Only (403)"

    http://pokecheck.kraftpaper.org/?p=detail&uid=72800
    http://pokecheck.kraftpaper.org/?p=detail&uid=72799
    - These Mew and Mewtwo both have moves which can be taught from the Gen III Move Tutor in Pokemon XD but show as "Hacked / Event only (95)" and "Hacked / Event only (120)"

    http://pokecheck.kraftpaper.org/?p=detail&uid=72765
    Japanese Pokemon with foreign English letters return this error "Cannot check the character set for non-latin alphabets."


    For Gen III Pokemon the nickname returns this message "Pokémon is from gen 3, check trash bytes manually."
    - My question is how should the terminator sequence appear for Gen III? I loaded up several .pkm files from Gen III that were on pkmdb.com and they either had no terminator sequence or it has a single terminator and then several trash bytes afterwards or whatever...


    Check out my current distro that I'm doing using Pokecheck! Maybe can get more people to know about your site
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/98955...rsion/59070401

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