Event: Shiny Johto Beast Trio and English Celebi Leaked, Now Available!

[Soladept]

Im hearing that the ID and OT for Gamestops current Celebi distribution is WIN2011 instead of GAMESTP, which makes it look that Nintendo gave out new distribution carts and that the leaked Celebi wont be legal/legit

[AtomicGreymon]

Interesting, if true. I'm glad I didn't give myself the GAMESTP Celebi Wondercard early on any of my legit cartridges.

[Tsujin]

It's true. I went to Gamestp myself and was disappointed to find out this was the case. Mean I'll have to delete my Gamestp Celebi. Sad too. It was flawlessly IV'd.

[Pingouin7]

The GAMESTP ones still aren't fake, because it was possible to obtain them without cheating.
Many people did go to Gamestop and managed to get the employee there to change the date on the DS so that they could get the Celebi early.
And some employees deliberately let people download Celebi early.

I would say they simply are a less common version of the event, since much fewer people managed to get the GAMESTP one from Gamestop.

[Soladept]

The GAMESTP ones still aren't fake, because it was possible to obtain them without cheating.
Many people did go to Gamestop and managed to get the employee there to change the date on the DS so that they could get the Celebi early.
And some employees deliberately let people download Celebi early.

I would say they simply are a less common version of the event, since much fewer people managed to get the GAMESTP one from Gamestop.

You know the odds of there being any high number of real legit occurances of that is slim to none, especialy when you factor in the leak and people being lazy.

[Tsujin]

True you could say that but isn't that basically the same thing as getting the Wonder Card? Besides the fact that it's a little more legit. And I say little because setting the date forward to get it early doesn't really necessarily mean it's not fake. The point is that Nintendo did not release the Gamestp Celebi. The only released the WIN2011 Celebi in the US which means that nobody should've gotten the Gamestp Celebi.

[Pingouin7]

Well I guess arguing about this one would be like arguing about the difference between legit and legal.

[Soladept]

Well I guess arguing about this one would be like arguing about the difference between legit and legal.

Well, even the legality of GAMESTP Celebis might be arguable, they were never released officaly.

Sure, the distribution cart was built and leaked, but that particular Celebi got replaced, so it was never legitly distributed.

and as far as I thought, for something to be Legal, does it not have to mimic something that is Legit?

So, in that sense, there cant be Legal GAMESTP Celebis if there isnt any Legit GAMESTP Celebis.

[Tsujin]

True. It's arguing a thin line over the Celebi.

But the point of view I see it from is as Soladept put much more concise than I was of that. It was never officially released so it's like it never happened and cannot exist legally. It's only that we happened to get the leaked distribution cart that we got it in the first place.

[Pingouin7]

So, in that sense, there cant be Legal GAMESTP Celebis if there isnt any Legit GAMESTP Celebis.

There are legit GAMESTP Celebi, since some people got the Gamestop employee to change the date on the distribution DS so that they could get Celebi early.
But very few GAMESTP Celebi were obtained that way, which means a legit version of this event is pretty rare.

[AtomicGreymon]

And of course nobody really has any way of knowing whether a GAMESTP Celebi they received might be one of those few or not; I wouldn't be surprised if the community just wrote it off as not legit.

[Tsujin]

I wouldn't even consider those few early GAMESTP Celebi's to be legit either. Getting an employee to change the date of the DS so you can get the event early is pretty much the same things as the leaked Distro Cart. Granted that the only difference was that they got it in the store from the DS instead of just downloading the Wonder Card from the site and injecting it into your save.

[Pingouin7]

I wouldn't say it's the same thing, because it came from the real cartridge that was sent by Nintendo, while using a distro rom requires the use of an external device.
Besides, if a game store broke the street date for a game, would you consider that game non-legit just because Nintendo didn't meant for it to be released early?

And I agree with Greymon, because there are only so few GAMESTP Celebi that were actually obtained from the store itself that any one you find has extremely good chances of being hacked (Or at the very least, legal.)

[Tsujin]

While it requires an external device the distro rom also came from the cartridge that was sent by Nintendo as well. It just wasn't on the physical cartridge. I can see your point obviously in the fact that it was gotten without any use of an external device however and gotten from the store itself that had the physical distro cart but it's still very similar in a way.

Also the difference with the game that was released early was that it was released at a point officially period. The GAMESTP Celebi was never released. It got replaced by the WIN2011 Celebi. So in order for there to be a Legit or Legal Celebi Nintendo would have to eventually officially release the GAMESTP Celebi. At least that's how I see it from my point of view.

[Pingouin7]

I personally think Nintendo should simply have told Gamestop stores to change the date on the distribution DS'es.
Because this "Gamestop" Celebi makes the Mall Tour one much less special.