Pokémon Legality Guide

[Greencat]

Pokémon Legality Guide
- This guide was intended for the use of D/P
Welcome to the Pokémon Legality Guide. This guide will provide you information on the defintion of Legit, Legal and Illegal. In addition, there is also a step-by-step guide on how to make a Legal Pokémon with Pokesav under any situation, weather you want it to be PalPark, Hatched or caught in the Wild--this guide will help you. ;)

Definition
* Legal (Valid) Pokémon are able to exist naturally in the game without the use of external devices.
* Illegal Pokémon are not able to exist naturally in the game without the use of external devices.
* Legitimate (Legit) Pokémon are created without the use of external devices. Because all of these Pokémon are also able to exist naturally in the game, legitimate Pokémon are a subset of legal Pokémon.

Although illegal Pokémon can only be created with the use of an external device (they simply cannot exist without the intervention of such a device), legal Pokémon can be created either naturally or through the intervention of an external device. Legitimate Pokémon, however, are always created naturally. Because of the nature of these definitions, it is possible to check for the legality of the Pokémon, but impossible to check for legitimacy. Therefore, there is no objective way to tell whether a Pokémon is truly legitimate or not. Programs such as Legality Checker and pAC can only check for legality, not legitimacy.

Examples:
* A Torterra, originating as a starter Pokémon in the game and raised only in the game is legitimate.
* A Spiritomb with Wonder Guard is illegal because Spiritomb cannot naturally have Wonder Guard as an ability.
* The perfect 31 IVs, shiny, docile, Umbreon from the PKM Database is legal because it was created with the use of external devices, however, it could have naturally occurred or existed in the game without the use of an external device. Although it would be extremely rare to encounter such a Pokémon, all aspects of its underlying data could have been generated by the game naturally.

Preparation
First, in order to create a Legal Pokémon, the user will need:

* Pokesav
* Legality Checker
* SCV's PID/IV Program
* Trash Byte Normalizer

"Pokésaving" The Pokémon
And will also need a way of transferring Pokémon into your game.
Beginning
1. Open Pokesav
2. Open your .sav file
3. Go into the Storage menu on the bottom right corner of the main Pokesav screen and select an available spot in any of your boxes and click Edit
4. At this point, select a Pokémon and the enter desired Trainer ID, Secret ID, Level, Happiness, Name, Held Item, and OT Name.
5. Enter in the correct ability of the chosen Pokémon.
6. Select a valid moveset.
7. Enter desired EVs, but make sure that the sum does not exceed 510
8. Contest Stats can be anything desired.
9. Marking can be anything desired.

Hatched Pokémon
1. Region/Version, choose either Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum
2. Ball Caught With to Pokéball
3. Egg Hatched at to DayCareCouple
4. Met Level to 0
5. Met at Place to a location that is in the game, where an egg may hatch. Common locations include Route 209.

Wild/Caught Pokémon
1. Region/Version, choose either Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum
2. Ball Caught With to any Pokéball that can be purchased at a PokéMart. It is not recommended to use a Master Ball.
3. The Pokémon may not know any moves which can only be learned from hatching.
4. Met at Place to the location where the desired Pokémon can be caught.
5. Met Level and choose a valid level depending on the Met at Place. Consult a Pokédex for this information.
6. Hidden Hex Values section, change 85h according to the method of encounter:

02 – Tall Grass
04 – Dialga/Palkia
05 – Cave/Hall of Origin
07 – Caught in the Water
09 – Catught in Building
0A – Great Marsh
0C – Starters/Fossils

PalParked Pokémon
1. Region/Version, choose the GBA Pokémon Game or Colosseum/XD from where the Pokémon may be caught from.
2. Ball Caught With to any Pokéball that can be purchased at a PokéMart. It is not recommended to use a Master Ball.
3. Met at Place to 55 (Pal Park).
4. Met at Level needs to be the level at which the Pokémon migrated. This should not be lower than the level it can be obtained at.

Trash Bytes
1. In POKESAV, click on Save in the Storage menu.
2. Name the file and save it somewhere accessible.
3. Drag the saved file (extension is .pkm) over the Trash Byte Normalizer.
4. The program will ask you to press Enter to exit.
5. Click on Load in POKESAV from the Storage menu to import the normalized Pokémon.

Making a Valid PID/IV
Individual values (IVs) are stat values given at random to Pokémon when they are encountered in the wild. Pokémon which have been bred have a higher predisposition to the individual values of their parents.

Both the PID/IV Generator in POKESAV and SCV’s PID/IV Generator will generate a Personality Value (PID) for a given set of IVs.

* Normal NDS or GBA
This type is the most common and will be seen on wild/legend encountered Pokémon in :NDS/GBA games.

* Wild NDS or GBA
This type is less common and will be seen on wild encountered Pokémon in NDS/ GBA :games. It is unclear whether GBA legends will be seen with this type.

* Uncommon GBA
This type is seen uncommonly by wild encountered Pokémon in GBA games.

* Rare GBA
This type is seen rarely by wild encountered Pokémon in GBA games.

* Very Rare GBA
This type is seen in less than 1% of wild encountered Pokémon in GBA games.

* Ultra Rare GBA
This type is seen in less than 0.01% of wild encountered Pokémon in GBA games.

* Common GBA Event (Restricted)
This type is seen with particular promotional GBA Pokémon.

* Common GBA Event (Unrestricted)
This type is seen with particular promotional GBA Pokémon.

Note: For more information on Algorithms, check the readme.txt with the Legality download.

Using POKESAV

1. Choose the desired IVs and click on PID/IV in POKESAV.
2. Click Generate, look at the algorithms and find the one that matches the Pokémon being created.
1. eg. A wild Starly will be Normal or Wild NDS.
3. The corresponding natures are displayed to the right of the algorithms.

Using SCV's IV/PID Generator

1. Open SCV’s PID/IV Generator and select the appropriate option.
2. The program will guide ask various questions relating to the Pokémon.
3. After answering the questions, the program will output legal PIDs.
4. Copy the first one to POKESAV.
TIP: Some natures may not yield desired results. Try changing one of the IVs slightly. This will radically alther the given PIDs.

Testing the Pokémon

1. In POKESAV, click on Save from the Storage menu
2. Name the file and save it somewhere accessible.
3. Drag the saved file (extension is .pkm file) over the Legality Checker.
4. Make sure nothing says Invalid.
5. The last line, Type should correspond to the algorithm used during the PID/IV stage.

Congratulations! The Pokémon is legal and ready to be used!

Frequently Asked Questions
Will a legal Pokémon work on Pokémon Battle Revolution?
* A: Yes, if the Pokémon is legal, it will work on PBR.
How does a person make a shiny legal Pokémon?
* A: Select the option for a shiny Pokémon in SCV’s PID/IV Generator.
Exporting the Pokémon as an Action-Replay code does not work?
* A: Due to translation limitations, a second program was created, POKESAVARDSOutput.exe. Load the Pokémon using this version of POKESAV.
Will editing an existing Pokémon still be legal?
* A: Yes, as long as it follows this article.

Credits
* SCV - IV/PID Program
* Sabresite - Legality Checker and Trash Byte Normalizer
* coolhbo3K - Definition section
* Greencat - Creating this article for the guide.

[fenzo666]

Good stuff. Stickied.

[Gator]

Dayum, You couldn't have made that earlier when I didn't know how to make a legal pokemon? Lulz, I needed it back then, I don't need it now, but awesome job!

[Destati]

Wait, do I NEED the Trash Byte Normalizer to make legal pokemon? I've never even heard of that program before : /

[Preston]

Wait, do I NEED the Trash Byte Normalizer to make legal pokemon? I've never even heard of that program before : /

Yea, you kind of do, mainly if they are PalParked or Event Pokemon.

[Destati]

oh. What if they're not palparked or event pokemon, but pokemon I've edited (not created) and/or pokemon that have been hatched?

[Preston]

oh. What if they're not palparked or event pokemon, but pokemon I've edited (not created) and/or pokemon that have been hatched?

As far as I know, the trash bytes should be fine as long as you checked the nickname box and then unchecked it. (Or go to the NickNameDude in Eterna city and renickname your Pokemon's names)

[Destati]

ok, so I should be fine then. I don't nickname Pokemon until I bring them over to my real cart. Almost spooked me there. I think that means the only Pokemon I need to fix is... crap, my Milotic which I created from scratch.

[Greencat]

Thank you very much. :)
It's made so if you have any questions about legality (besides codding), the answer is more than a 80% chance that it's there.

[damio]

You forgot all the different hex values for platinum.

Note that the Trash Byte Normalizer doesn't support Platinum.
But, If a pokemon's 46h value is 37, Legal.exe (at time of post) does not support Platinum trash bytes, so it will not give a correct reading.
Simply leave all hex values at 00 and the Trash Byte Normalizer will work, and so will legal (it will appear to have been Pal-Parked to DP and then traded to Pt)

[TheKeyMan]

interesting. i tried entering an OT for my Dialga but nothing shows. i type in the OT but when i click ok, it just disappears. can anyone tell me whats wrong?

[damio]

Hit backspace 20 times and then enter the OT.

[TheKeyMan]

Thanks. lol by the time you replied, I already figured it out. I have another question regarding legality checker. will it say my pokemon is legal despite it have all 31 IV's?

[damio]

will it say my pokemon is legal despite it have all 31 IV's?

This part of the guide tells you how:

Making a Valid PID/IV
Individual values (IVs) are stat values given at random to Pokémon when they are encountered in the wild. Pokémon which have been bred have a higher predisposition to the individual values of their parents.

Both the PID/IV Generator in POKESAV and SCV’s PID/IV Generator will generate a Personality Value (PID) for a given set of IVs.

* Normal NDS or GBA
This type is the most common and will be seen on wild/legend encountered Pokémon in :NDS/GBA games.

* Wild NDS or GBA
This type is less common and will be seen on wild encountered Pokémon in NDS/ GBA :games. It is unclear whether GBA legends will be seen with this type.

* Uncommon GBA
This type is seen uncommonly by wild encountered Pokémon in GBA games.

* Rare GBA
This type is seen rarely by wild encountered Pokémon in GBA games.

* Very Rare GBA
This type is seen in less than 1% of wild encountered Pokémon in GBA games.

* Ultra Rare GBA
This type is seen in less than 0.01% of wild encountered Pokémon in GBA games.

* Common GBA Event (Restricted)
This type is seen with particular promotional GBA Pokémon.

* Common GBA Event (Unrestricted)
This type is seen with particular promotional GBA Pokémon.

Note: For more information on Algorithms, check the readme.txt with the Legality download.

[TheKeyMan]

hmmm ok. i have a question regarding secret IDs...how many digits must it be? i put 5 at 1st. then put 3

[damio]

It must be a number that is 65535 or less

[Leotronico]

Hi guys I have a question about the PID/IV creation process.

I'm hacking my own save file of Pokémon Platinum. I'm building a perfect Azelf, Mesprit, Uxie, Rotom and Giratina IV's right now. I got they in game and i'm only changing they date.

My question is, for Example: When i try to build a: Modest 31 31 31 31 31 31 Giratina - (I checked and this IV's and Nature Combination is possible) I receive 4 differents valors of PID, they are:

1) Normal D/P or GBA - 1765268040 - Nature: Modest - Ability: 2 - Gender Value: 72 - Hidden Power: Dark 70

2) Normal D/P or GBA - 1750077865 - Nature: Modest - Ability: 1 - Gender Value: 169 - Hidden Power: Dark 70

3) Normal D/P or GBA - 4181880690 - Nature: Modest - Ability: 2 -
Gender Value: 114 - Hidden Power: Dark 70

4) Normal GBA - 3095800965 - - Nature: Modest - Ability: 1 - Gender Value: 133 - Hidden Power: Dark 70

The 4º i know is not right because it's for a GBA game only, but and the other 3??????????????

I realized that the only difference between the 1, 2 and 3 valors are the gender and the Ability but, Giratina do not have sex and there is only one ability for him... So, which one i have to choose when this happen????

I choose the first one and the second one to do a test, and using the "Legal.exe" program with this 2 valor there isn't any problem, my Giratina seen perfect like as you can see in the picture Below:

http://www.uploadimagens.com/upload/c4050d4fed9f405e605b9c6c726deb1d.jpg (http://www.uploadimagens.com/)


Which one Ability (1 or 2) is right to choose when the Pokémon has only one: the number 1 or number 2? I think there is a difference, but i dont know what. And the same thing happen with Rotom. Azelf, Uxie and Mesprit there is only 1 valor of PID for they nature and IV's combination but Azelf and Mesprit has ability 2 and Uxie has ability 1 looking in the Legal.exe program.... I think in the case of Azelf And Mesprit i need to change they ability to 1, but how if the program don't give this possibility for us?
So I'm a bit confuse about it. >.<"

And one more thing, in the IPID.exe the ability of my Giratina is 1 and in the Legal.exe the ability is 2, using the same number of PID: 1750077865....

[Neo]

Nice guide there Greencat. This is ten times better than the crappy one i put on Wiki :(.
You can replace it with this one if you like.

[Zafur]

Hey, I'm a bit confused.><

Hatched Pokémon
3. Egg Hatched at to DayCareCouple
5. Met at Place to a location that is in the game, where an egg may hatch. Common locations include Route 209.

I thought it would be the opposite?

[Greencat]

Nope. That's the way it is. ;)

@Leotronico:
Any of those will work (Besides the Normal GBA). This is because if a Pokemon only has one ability, it can be either class.
If it has two abilities, than it would have to match respectively. ;)

[Leotronico]

Thanks Greencat, so i think my pokemon are legal now. Thanks so much man!!!

[Greencat]

No problem. ;)

Note to everyone: There is now a Permanent/Sticky Redirect to this thread. This redirect is found in Pokemon Legality Forum, however, it redirects to this thread which is found in Save Editing. Hopefully this didn't confuse you. ;P

[Dragonite.Luv]

Hit backspace 20 times and then enter the OT.

whoadang. haha you REALLY know your stuff! :P

Anyways, great guide! I personally find the egg guide the most helpful, because I love to breed.... but now that I own Platinum, I would find the other hex values helpful too.....

[TheKeyMan]

Does anyone know what lv Giratina is at turnback cave in platinum?

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nvm i found it out

[Dragonite.Luv]

Does anyone know what lv Giratina is at turnback cave in platinum?

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nvm i found it out

....wait. you're saying you can get ANOTHER Giratina.... in.... Platinum? I mean, what you're saying is, you can get 2 from the storyline? also, while we're on this topic, how do you change your Giratina from regular forme to origin forme?

[Relyte]

Can DPPt hatched pokemon have anything but Normal NDS/GBA or Wild NDS/GBA PIDs?

[temok]

Is there any kind of list out there with good IVs/Natures PIDs? Or do I must try out random convinations of Ivs/natures every time?
I'm going to go ahead and asume the isnt such a guide and then proceed to copy paste a compilation of good IV's/natures PIDs I made for myself last night. Hope I helps someone.
Anyone with acces to SCV's PID creator should be able to get this PIDs, but having them compiled in a single sheet should made the process of making legit pokemon easier.


Perfect IVs Hidden Power Dark-70
Modest Normal DP or GBA 1765268040 Ability 2 Gender 72
Modest Normal DP or GBA 1750077865 Ability 1 Gender 169
Modest Normal DP or GBA 4181880690 Ability 2 Gender 114
Modest Normal GBA 3095800965 Ability 1 Gender 133
Jolly Ultra rare GBA 1452549313 ability 1 Gender 193
Jolly Rare GBA 3163859688 Ability 2 Gender 232
Rash Non-event DP GBA 3662173844 Ability 2 Gender 148
Timid Normal GBA 948350085 Ability 1 Gender 133
Timid Normal DP or GBA 2034429810 Ability 2 Gender 114
Adamant Rare GBA 2894443353 Ability 1 Gender 89
Careful Non-event DP or GBA 296319748 Ability 2 Gender 4
Careful Normal GBA 425344148 Ability 2 Gender 148
Calm Ultra-rare GBA 2063888070 Ability 2 Gender 198
Calm Normal DP or GBA 3912718920 Ability 2 Gender 72
Sassy Rare GBA 1016343272 Ability 2 Gender 232
Lax Non-event D/P or GBA 1869760159 Ability 1 gender 159
Lax Ultra-rare GBA 1184871884 Ability 2 Gender 204
Naive D/P or GBA 1514722964 Ability 2 Gender 148
Naive Non-event D/P or GBA 2443839164 Ability 2 Gender 4
Naive Normal GBA 2572860564 Ability 2 Gender 148
Naive Ultra-rare GBA 3332322764 Ability 2 Gender 204
Naughty Ultra-rare GBA 3600065729 Ability 1 Gender 193
Hasty Ultra-rare GBA 4211404486 Ability 2 Gender 198


IVs Hp30 Atk31 Def31 Spe31 SpA31 SpD31 Hidden Power Dragon-70
Brave Normal GBA 2528489277 Abil 1 Gen 189
Brave Normal GBA 2015548877 Abil 1 Gen 205
Brave Rare GBA 3317520227 Abil 1 Gen 99
Sassy Rare GBA 1170069347 Abil 1 Gen 99
Sassy Normal GBA 391038397 Abil 1 Gen 189
Careful Rare GBa 3587002098 Abil 2 Gen 242
Naive Normal DP or GBA 1734887689 Abil 1 Gen 9
Hasty Non-event DP or GBA 1225367411 Abil 1 Gen 115
Quiet Ultra-rare GBA 2675161292 Abil 2 Gen 204
Naughty Normal GBA 1492477404 Abil 2 Gen 220
Adamant Rare GBA 1708967553 Abil 1 Gen 129
Relaxed Normal GBA 4162999757 Abil 1 Gen 205
Bold Normal DP or GBA 3882404105 Abil 1 Gen 9
Mild Non-event DP or GBA 3372818291 Abil 1 Gen 115
Lonely Ultra-rare GBA 527644876 Abil 2 Gen 204
Calm Normal GBA 3639993820 Abil 2 Gen 220
Impish Rare GBA 3856418433 Abil 1 Gen 129

IVs Hp31 Atk30 Def31 Spe31 SpA31 SpD31 Hidden power Dragon-70
Careful Normal GBA 3247019573 Abil 1 Gen 53
Jolly Normal DP or GBA 2888010738 Abil 2 Gen 242
Jolly Rare GBA 372611863 Abil 1 Gen 23
Timid Ultra-rare GBA 1597156885 Abil 1 Gen 21
Rash Non-event DP or GBA 3276964769 Abil 1 Gen 161
Lax Rare GBA 642093734 Abil 2 Gen 166
Relaxed Normal GBA 1099503157 Abil 1 Gen 53
Relaxed Normal GBA 576562757 Abil 1 Gen 69
Sassy Normal D/P or GBA 740494322 Abil 2 Gen 242
Lonely Non-event DP or GBA 200466226 Abil 1 Gen 50
Modest Ultra-rare GBA 3744607765 Abil 1 Gen 21
Modest Ultra-rare GBA 60913690 Abil 2 Gen 26
Gentle Normal DP or GBA 725304146 Abil 2 Gen 82
Adamant Non-event DP or GBA 1129448353 Abil 1 Gen 161
Naive Rare GBA 2789544614 Abil 2 Gen 166

IVs Hp31 Atk31 Def30 Spe31 SpA31 SpD31 Hidden power Dragon-70
Modest Rare GBA 3138860140 Abil 2 Gen 108
Modest Rare GBA 1953384340 Abil 2 Gen 148
Adamant Non-event DP or GBA 1082353828 Abil 2 Gen 164
Adamant Ultra-rare GBA 219352753 Abil 1 Gen 177
Sassy Ultra-rare GBA 1755595947 Abil 2 Gen 171
Hasty Normal DP or GBA 3199498211 Abil 1 Gen 227
Mild Non-event DP or GBA 2011401491 Abil 1 Gen 19
Rash Ultra-rare GBA 2366869169 Abil 1 Gen 177
Rash Non-event DP or GBA 3229870244 Abil 2 Gen 164
Naughty Normal GBA 2915187479 Abil 1 Gen 23
Timid Rare GBA 991409260 Abil 2 Gen 108
Relaxed Normal DP or GBA 1067237507 Abil 1 Gen 131
Jolly Ultra-rare GBA 3903112363 Abil 1 Gen 171
Gentle Non-event DP or GBA 4158852371 Abil 1 Gen 19
Lax Normal GBA 219352753 Abil 1 Gen 177

IVs Hp31 Atk31 Def31 Spe30 SpA31 SpD31 Hidden power Ice-70
Careful Normal DP or GBA 1196564148 Abil 2 Gen 180
Hasty Ultra-rare GBA 515161949 Abil 2 Gen 182
Bold Normal GBA 927097630 Abil 2 Gen 30
Bold Normal DP or GBA 1480981630 Abil 2 Gen 126
Modest Rare GBA 1662920865 Abil 1 Gen 161
Timid Normal DP or GBA 3628432510 Abil 2 Gen 126
Timid Ultra-rare GBA 2331631035 Abil 1 Gen 187
Timid Normal GBA 1471290485 Abil 1 Gen 117
Sassy Non-event DP or GBA 2088667897 Abil 1 Gen 249
Mild Rare GBA 477445066 Abil 2 Gen 202
Naive Normal DP or GBA 3344080564 Abil 2 Gen 180
Naughty Non-event DP or GBA 2662612829 Abil 1 Gen 93
Calm Ultra-rare GBA 1063065270 Abil 2 Gen 182
Gentle Normal GBA 3074614046 Abil 2 Gen 30
Brave Non-event DP or GBA 4236118777 Abil 1 Gen 249
Rash Ultra-rare GBA 184114619 Abil 1 Gen 187
Lonely Normal GBA 3618806901 Abil 1 Gen 117
Relaxed Rare GBA 2624961482 Abil 2 Gen 202

IVs HP31 Atk31 Def31 Spe31 SpA30 SpD31 Hidden power Electric-70
Careful Normal GBA 2800979273 Abil 1 Gen 73
Careful Normal Dp or GBA 812916848 Abil 2 Gen 112
Relaxed Rare GBA 2370390757 Abil 1 Gen 229
Relaxed Normal GBA 653462857 Abil 1 Gen 73
Sassy Non-event DP or GBA 544211797 Abil 1 Gen 85
Lax Ultra-rare GBA 55905059 Abil 1 Gen 35
Timid Normal DP or GBA 3244785210 Abil 2 Gen 58
Timid Non-event Dp or GBA 4265234160 Abil 2 Gen 240
Bold Non-event DP or GBA 2117783280 Abil 2 Gen 240
Bold Normal DP or GBA 1097334330 Abil 2 Gen 58
Rash Ultra-rare GBA 3472856169 Abil 1 Gen 41
Brave Rare GBA 222939877 Abil 1 Gen229
Naive Normal DP or GBA 2960433264 Abil 2 Gen 112
Naive Ultra rare GBA 1324405289 Abil 1 Gen 41
Jolly Non-event DP or GBA 2691728213 Abil 1 Gen 85

IVs Hp31 Atk31 Def31 Spe31 SpA31 SpD30 Hidden power Steel-70
Mild Normal Dp or GBA 3831706541 Abil 1 Gen 173
Quiet Non-event DP or GBA 866995392 Abil 2 Gen 192
Quiet Normal GBA 3630957492 Abil 2 Gen 180
Hasty Ultra-rare GBA 1287654461 Abil 1 Gen 61
Hasty Rare GBA 2209664211 Abil 1 Gen 211
Hasty Normal DP or GBA 1684255661 Abil 1 Gen 173
Careful Normal GBA 2006512548 Abil 2 Gen 164
Rash Rare GBA 4087633219 Abil 1 Gen 67
Impish Non-event DP or GBA 3014511808 Abil 2 Gen 192
Brave Ultra-rare GBA 3435170877 Abil 1 Gen 61
Adamant Normal GBA 4153963428 Abil 2 Gen 164
Naive Rare GBA 1940182339 Abil 1 Gen 67
Calm Rare GBA 62147795 Abil 1 Gen 211

This don't have only 31 and 30 IVs but I found them to be pretty useful.

impish Normal D/P or GBA 2001022658 ability 2 Gender 194
Hp31 Atk31 Def 31 Spe31 SpA25 SpD31

Adamant Normal DP or GBA 1063927178 Ability 2 Gen 138
Hp31 Atk31 Def31 Spe31 SpA24 Spd31

Jolly Normal DP or GBA 1738985838 Ability 2 Gen 110
Hp31 Atk31 Def31 Spe31 SpA29 SpD31

[BaldWombat]

Can DPPt hatched pokemon have anything but Normal NDS/GBA or Wild NDS/GBA PIDs?

I would also like to know what are the correct algorithms for HATCHED pokemon on the DS and GBA.

[Dragonite.Luv]

I would also like to know what are the correct algorithms for HATCHED pokemon on the DS and GBA.

wait.... are you saying that there are certain PIDs for "hatched" pokemon?

[BaldWombat]

wait.... are you saying that there are certain PIDs for "hatched" pokemon?

No, I was just wondering if I have to do anything special for hatched pokemon to make them legal as well.

[xeomyr]

No, I was just wondering if I have to do anything special for hatched pokemon to make them legal as well.
yes, correcting the trashbyte ^^ ...
many people tend to forget this thing ^^

[BaldWombat]

yes, correcting the trashbyte ^^ ...
many people tend to forget this thing ^^

And adjust the hex values of 46h and 47h since I use Platinum. I just have a hard time with the fact that the PIDs and algorithms are useless for hatched pokes. It doesn't make sense to me. I feel like something has been missed, oh well.

If the trash bytes and hex are the only things you have to worry about, that would mean that hatching all shiny and all 31 IVs would be legal. Of course, with enough time and practice you can do this with the RNG abuse.

[xeomyr]

If the trash bytes and hex are the only things you have to worry about, that would mean that hatching all shiny and all 31 IVs would be legal. Of course, with enough time and practice you can do this with the RNG abuse.

i would say that it's almost impossible to get all 31 IV to get it in the game .. why??
because maybe you will only got it after hatching 1 billion or maybe trillion eggs XD XD

except you hack the parent to all 31 IV first and try to produce a "legal" one in the game XD XD ... then it will be possible XD XD .. with enough luck :)

[TheKeyMan]

....wait. you're saying you can get ANOTHER Giratina.... in.... Platinum? I mean, what you're saying is, you can get 2 from the storyline? also, while we're on this topic, how do you change your Giratina from regular forme to origin forme?

no there is only one. if you happen to K.O giratina in the distortion world, you can find it again at turnback cave at lv 47 after you beat the elite 4 and become champion

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i would say that it's almost impossible to get all 31 IV to get it in the game .. why??
because maybe you will only got it after hatching 1 billion or maybe trillion eggs XD XD

except you hack the parent to all 31 IV first and try to produce a "legal" one in the game XD XD ... then it will be possible XD XD .. with enough luck :)

Lol i think thats a bit of an exaggeration. its more like millions of eggs. either way its very time consuming and requires monk like patience (having this kind of patience is easier when you actually a monk :bidoof: )

[fer2911]

i have a question what is unknown gba type i get a mewtwo from a trade

[xeomyr]

that could be a hack, hatched pokemon or maybe an event pokemon ..
try to see it in the legality checker's readme ...

for mewtwo .. i don't think that should be unknown ...
.. what's the region anyway ... kanto or Colloseum/XD??

[HottSushiz]

Wow thanks, that defiantly cleared the whole Legit vs Legal thing.

[Aarux]

So... question.

If a Pokemon has only one ability, it'd have to have Class 1, right?

[damio]

So... question.

If a Pokemon has only one ability, it'd have to have Class 1, right?
No, if it only has one ability, it can be either class.

[Aarux]

No, if it only has one ability, it can be either class.

Ah. Okay, I got it. That helps. Thanks. :)

[GOGAA]

You forgot all the different hex values for platinum.

Note that the Trash Byte Normalizer doesn't support Platinum.
But, If a pokemon's 46h value is 37, Legal.exe (at time of post) does not support Platinum trash bytes, so it will not give a correct reading.
Simply leave all hex values at 00 and the Trash Byte Normalizer will work, and so will legal (it will appear to have been Pal-Parked to DP and then traded to Pt)

The trash byte normalizer worked with my pal park generated pokemons in Platinum.

[damio]

The trash byte normalizer worked with my pal park generated pokemons in Platinum.
Legal.exe says it did, but really, it didn't.

[Honu]

I'm kind of new here but can you please tell me where I can acquire SCV's PID/IV Program & Trash Byte Normalizer. :confused:

[ocwil]

@Honu
from the main page klik on the links in the bottom left

[theSLAYER]

Sorry for waking this thread, got a few related questions.

Non event DP means non-nintendo event, aka normal gameplay,
Or does it mean non in-game events, like in-game trade, dialga palkia, egg from cynthia ETC.

What does ultra rare and rare gba mean?
what does it relate to? Rarity in appearance like surskit and other hard to find critters?
Or to nintendo in-game event like mew and deoxys?
Or in-game events like groudon/kyogre/rayquaza and such?

Sorry not very good with this topic.

[Crystal]

Thanks so much for this!

So, I've been following the instructions carefully, I've made a Japanese Latias (not eon ticket but the normal roaming one). Not shiny, does this look legit? It does to me but, I guess I need somebody else opinion


http://www.modyourpanties.com/images/090707120728-Legit%20exe%20latias%20check.jpg

[damio]

Sorry for waking this thread, got a few related questions.

Non event DP means non-nintendo event, aka normal gameplay,
Or does it mean non in-game events, like in-game trade, dialga palkia, egg from cynthia ETC.

What does ultra rare and rare gba mean?
what does it relate to? Rarity in appearance like surskit and other hard to find critters?
Or to nintendo in-game event like mew and deoxys?
Or in-game events like groudon/kyogre/rayquaza and such?

Sorry not very good with this topic.
None ingame event.
Ultra rare and rare gba mean exactly that, rare PIDs

[Psycho K]

@Honu
from the main page klik on the links in the bottom left
I see Sabresite's Legality Checker there, but not his Trash Byte Normalizer. Does anyone have a link to its new location, or did I just not notice a link to it buried somewhere in that area?

EDIT: I just found it. damio (http://projectpokemon.org/forums/member.php?u=14) posted the download link on the Legality Checker (http://projectpokemon.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=37) forum about a week ago (http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showpost.php?p=37350&postcount=2). Someone may want to put said link in the first post, or perhaps a link to the wiki (http://projectpokemon.org/wiki/Trash_Bytes), which also happens to have it.

[gokufan]

Hey, i've got from trade Chikorita, but it's parent was cheated (master ball, route 203). Is that Chikorita legit, or should I get rid of it?

[gokufan]

Hey, I've got from trade a Shiny Ho-Oh, it's from Emerald, so from Navel Rock, but legality checker shows it as "Unknown GBA"

[Ronin]

Hey, i've got from trade Chikorita, but it's parent was cheated (master ball, route 203). Is that Chikorita legit, or should I get rid of it?
Obviously that "poorly made" Chikorita was not a legit. I'd say get rid of it since you've access to PokeSav, and on Wifi you'd be deemed as a hacker to those ignorant people. And other hackers would markedly be criticizing that poor PokeSav made and how you've traded over something for it.

[NovaPhoenix]

Is the Ageto Celebi supposed to be GBA Unrestricted? Also, does romanizing a Pokemon's name destroy it's legality? Just wanted to make sure, because I did this for the EIgakan Darkrai and Shaymin, and they passed through PBR OK!

[Juan-K]

where is the POKESAVARDSOutput.exe

[rOllingStAr]

how come when I input random numbers on the IVs with a random PID the test still comes out as valid? the same is the case with random pokemon types, classes, and hex values.

[MvT21]

None ingame event.
Ultra rare and rare gba mean exactly that, rare PIDs

So that means anything other than the Legendarys, Given eggs and ingame trades?

[zenskii]

uh ok so i have a question.

i did a perfect iv lucario and tried it on the legal thing, and i got

Type: Never seen this. B-A-C-E [unrestricted]

so does it count as legal? :D

[danhomer]

Is "Type: Never seen this. B-A-C-E [Unrestricted]" a good sign?

[DannyB01]

@ danhomer No that's not a particularly good sign, although i imagine you're not too far from a legal PID. Which answers:

@ zenskii No that doesn't count as legal, as it wouldn't occur in game naturally.

@ RollingStar Pokesav generates a new legit PID for you when you randomly put those IVs in, as far as i'm aware.

@ Nova Phoenix No Ageto Celebi should always come up as unknown gba type, your one has been hacked :( Check this link in the future: http://www.projectpokemon.org/editing/legalitychecker.php

@ Gokufan That shiny ho-oh is a hack, it should be Common GBA Type (A-B-C-D) [possibly may have misremembered the letter order, but i'm pretty sure that's right]. Uknown GBA type pokemon are hacks except in rare cases (such as the Ageto celebi ironically).

Hope that you're all happy with those answers!


Now to ask the noobiest question of all. I'm trying to get to know legal pokemon generation better (I've got a fair bit of experience now) and understand what i'm doing. But due to the way pokesav works, when i use one of the generated shiny PID/IV combinations and select shiny, I then have to manually input the pid and by doing this, pokesav makes it not shiny anymore. What have I done wrong? Or is it that the only reason pokesav stops it being shiny is because the supposed shiny pids generated are actually normal pokemon's PIDs? That's what i think but wouldn't explain why the shiny PIDs i'm getting from SCV's PID generator (as well as PokeGen, I tried both) is only giving me normal PIDs.

I'd really appreciate some help here, I feel the answer is staring me in the face and i'm just not seeing it :D

[Gowon]

Is there a way to change the PID of event pokemon? So that at the end they still have the same type ie. Common Event (Restricted)?

[Drohn]

Question, if you create a pokemon out of nothing with Pokesav (So you don't edit your current legit pokemon but just click "edit" on an empty pokemon spot in pokesav), do you still need to normalize trashbytes? or is this only when you edit pokemon that already exicst?

[Kaphotics]

trashbytes is only for mystery gift and pal parked pokemon

[Drohn]

Thank you. :)

[dao001]

Okay, I just have two questions, because I am getting a little frustrated...

The legality checker says my pokemon are good (all of them either common nds or common gba), and yet when I use them on battle revo they aren't being accepted...

What am I doing wrong? It all says valid, and they aren't making it through.

Also, I used the platinum one because I am doing my work on an R4, but because it won't connect to the wii to send them straight from there, I had to trade to a SoulSilver.... is that making a difference?

[Andy1604]

How i can make a Shiny Pokemon with 6x31 DVs? Legality help me please ... for Pokemon Soul SIlver.

[evandixon]

i have a question regarding secret IDs...how many digits must it be? i put 5 at 1st. then put 3

5 digits, less than 65535.
If you put fewer digits, zeros will be added. (Ex. 875 becomes 00875)

[Leaf Dragoon]

i would say that it's almost impossible to get all 31 IV to get it in the game .. why??
because maybe you will only got it after hatching 1 billion or maybe trillion eggs XD XD

except you hack the parent to all 31 IV first and try to produce a "legal" one in the game XD XD ... then it will be possible XD XD .. with enough luck :)

wait do you really think that using a code to max out the parents IVs will work because because every time i tried to breed a pokemon with a hacked nature and an everstone it just kept getting the nature the parent would have had if i hadn't used the nature modifier.

[Chompizard25]

Wait, why is this on wiki AND forums?

[evandixon]

Wait, why is this on wiki AND forums?

The wiki is pretty much dead, although it is used for technical structures and such. If you notice, there isn't a link to the wiki at the top of the forums anymore...

[Bond697]

i think at this point i'm the only one who uses it.

[Chompizard25]

no you are not

[Bond697]

i don't see anyone else posting anything on it.

[Chompizard25]

Thats because i am not done with my research

[Bond697]

what is the "research" on?

[Chompizard25]

on pokemon (duh :P)

[Bond697]

seriously? on what, specifically, are you researching?

[Chompizard25]

right now i am doing trash bytes

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right now i am doing trash bytes

Ex. My friends Raichu, PokeTransfered

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/26.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png #26 AWESOMECHU (Raichu) (http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=1971980) ♂ (level 52) http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/002.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Jacob ♂ (HeartGold, 59109/55584)
Rash - Static - 8/21/4/16/20/29 - 31 HP/48 Att/12 Def/14 SAt/5 SDf/27 Spd
ThunderShock - Flash - Thunder - Strength
356104444
31/48/12/27/14/5